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(12-09-2010 05:23 PM)Okie Chippewa Wrote: [ -> ]Wow; just wow.

I want to fight that guy!

So if that doesnt prove to congress that the BCS is crap then I dont know what would. My only question is is where were the other commisioners during this meeting?

What an arrogant, pompous A$$!!!

(12-09-2010 06:11 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote: [ -> ]So if that doesnt prove to congress that the BCS is crap then I dont know what would. My only question is is where were the other commisioners during this meeting?

Congress will never, ever touch this.

But something should be done, because this is complete and utter horsesh*t.

Sad, but that is the reality of the sport. The NCAA lost control of D1A football long ago.

No surprise that the King of Arrogance is from the Big 10. From the pompous 'Big House' to Gee's comments to Delany... the conference reeks too much of it. Though not Big Ten, Notre Dame is widely known for their . Something about the Midwest that breeds this.

MORE?!

An ass**** talking about FREE MARKETS? he represents non- profit institutions subsidize to the hilt by TAXPAYERS. Dumb a$$....

(12-09-2010 08:40 PM)BarnardHall211 Wrote: [ -> ]MORE?!

What an absolutely perfect post.

He commented why give the non-AQ any more if they can't even fill their own stadiums.

But we could get a little more home support from our faithful if the BCS foes would only agree to come to our stadiums at all.

Instead we always have to play at their place and like it.

This is absolutely appalling! This attitude by the commissioners of the Power $ix conferences should not be allowed in collegiate athletics and new NCAA president, Mark Emmert, needs to take a stand for which college sports were founded!

U.S. taypayers fork out millions (perhaps even billions) of dollars a year to the federal government to help with higher education. Most of these federal funds are redistributed to the institutions of the six major conferences. We see this all over the place when these major schools are allowed to use the bulk of federal and state funding to build new dorms, science buildings, libraries, and a plethora of facilities of higher education of every type while other schools in the state are left to rot!

And yet these non-profit schools that have affiliation with athletic conferences like the one's led by Jim Delaney are allowed to continue to covort about as these entities whose primary purpose is to educate the masses, and yet their athletic departments are allowed to operate as multi-million dollar corporations. If all the Power $ix schools combined all of their assets, they'd be more powerful and wealthier than Wal-Mart and Disney combined! That is just scary to think about!

(12-10-2010 12:01 AM)owen Wrote: [ -> ]He commented why give the non-AQ any more if they can't even fill their own stadiums.

But we could get a little more home support from our faithful if the BCS foes would only agree to come to our stadiums at all.

Instead we always have to play at their place and like it.

In many cases they do like it. AQ schools help finance smaller programs athletics by paying their opponents who do not require a return visit to their stadium. Georgia is paying Buffalo $975,000 for a 2012 game. I would wager that Buffalo officials would prefer the $975,000 over the home and away game with Bulldogs.

These smaller programs aren't getting taken advantage of as a lot of you would like to believe.

(12-10-2010 01:02 AM)msutter Wrote: [ -> ]In many cases they do like it. AQ schools help finance smaller programs athletics by paying their opponents who do not require a return visit to their stadium. Georgia is paying Buffalo $975,000 for a 2012 game. I would wager that Buffalo officials would prefer the $975,000 over the home and away game with Bulldogs.

These smaller programs aren't getting taken advantage of as a lot of you would like to believe.

Where do these big schools get their money from? Most of it is through the luxuries of being affiliated with a BC$ conference. In fact, I'd wager that over 75% of the typical BC$ school's revenue came from in some way being affiliated with a major conference with lots of money and lots of power.

If schools like Buffalo were allowed more leverage, they wouldn't need to be plowed up the rear by a BC$ school on the football field via some six- or seven-figure guarantee.

That's what Delany is fighting against. He doesn't want schools like Buffalo and the non-AQ to have that leverage. You might even say that the system and the men behind it are bullies.

(12-10-2010 01:15 AM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-10-2010 01:02 AM)msutter Wrote: [ -> ]In many cases they do like it. AQ schools help finance smaller programs athletics by paying their opponents who do not require a return visit to their stadium. Georgia is paying Buffalo $975,000 for a 2012 game. I would wager that Buffalo officials would prefer the $975,000 over the home and away game with Bulldogs.

These smaller programs aren't getting taken advantage of as a lot of you would like to believe.

Where do these big schools get their money from? Most of it is through the luxuries of being affiliated with a BC$ conference. In fact, I'd wager that over 75% of the typical BC$ school's revenue came from in some way being affiliated with a major conference with lots of money and lots of power.

If schools like Buffalo were allowed more leverage, they wouldn't need to be plowed up the rear by a BC$ school on the football field via some six- or seven-figure guarantee.

That's what Delany is fighting against. He doesn't want schools like Buffalo and the non-AQ to have that leverage. You might even say that the system and the men behind it are bullies.

You know how you get leverage? WIN. TCU & Utah are being rewarded for running successful programs. The notion that everyone should receive an equal share of the pie just for showing up is retarded

(12-10-2010 01:23 AM)msutter Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-10-2010 01:15 AM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-10-2010 01:02 AM)msutter Wrote: [ -> ]In many cases they do like it. AQ schools help finance smaller programs athletics by paying their opponents who do not require a return visit to their stadium. Georgia is paying Buffalo $975,000 for a 2012 game. I would wager that Buffalo officials would prefer the $975,000 over the home and away game with Bulldogs.

These smaller programs aren't getting taken advantage of as a lot of you would like to believe.

Where do these big schools get their money from? Most of it is through the luxuries of being affiliated with a BC$ conference. In fact, I'd wager that over 75% of the typical BC$ school's revenue came from in some way being affiliated with a major conference with lots of money and lots of power.

If schools like Buffalo were allowed more leverage, they wouldn't need to be plowed up the rear by a BC$ school on the football field via some six- or seven-figure guarantee.

That's what Delany is fighting against. He doesn't want schools like Buffalo and the non-AQ to have that leverage. You might even say that the system and the men behind it are bullies.

You know how you get leverage? WIN. TCU & Utah are being rewarded for running successful programs. The notion that everyone should receive an equal share of the pie just for showing up is retarded

That's not the message that Delany and the BC$ commissioners are selling. TCU and Utah aren't being rewarded crap or else one of them would've been in a national title game by now. This will be the only year the Rose Bowl will allow a non-AQ team into its game from now until 2014 unless another contract is drawn up before then.

There's also a problem about "winning" too. Boise, TCU, and Utah have won, and they did it with far, FAR less resources than what the Power $ix conference schools are entitled. It's hard for schools with distinct financial and perceptual disadvantages to compete with schools that seek an ignorant audience to sell their product. They don't want anyone else to know about Boise, TCU, or Utah or anyone else that is outside their circle.

Utah is joining the PAC-10(will be PAC-12) next year and TCU is joining the Big East in 2012. As I said, they're being rewarded for running successful programs.

(12-10-2010 01:45 AM)msutter Wrote: [ -> ]Utah is joining the PAC-10(will be PAC-12) next year and TCU is joining the Big East in 2012. As I said, they're being rewarded for running successful programs.

Sorry, I'm not going to buy that. I'm not buying that for one second. BYU won the national title in 1984 becoming the only non-Power $ix conference school to win the Division 1 FBS national title since the division split to 1-A and 1-AA. Every other time, it was a school from a major conference, and now it is even less so! Utah and TCU are no longer considered non-BC$ because money and greed and pursuit of power pulled them away. If TCU knew they could win the national title in the Mountain West, they would've stayed. If Utah knew they had access to the BC$ national title game through the Mountain West, they would have stayed.

I'm not buying what you're selling. That's the half-cocked story that the BC$ commissioners want people to believe. I don't consider it a reward to have to be invited to the party because now you're cool enough. That is straight up crap!

I just noticed that you're a BYU fan. Do you condemn them for leaving the MWC now that they have set up their own cable network. I guess they're just as greedy as everyone else.

(12-10-2010 01:54 AM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-10-2010 01:45 AM)msutter Wrote: [ -> ]Utah is joining the PAC-10(will be PAC-12) next year and TCU is joining the Big East in 2012. As I said, they're being rewarded for running successful programs.

Sorry, I'm not going to buy that. I'm not buying that for one second. BYU won the national title in 1984 becoming the only non-Power $ix conference school to win the Division 1 FBS national title since the division split to 1-A and 1-AA. Every other time, it was a school from a major conference, and now it is even less so! Utah and TCU are no longer considered non-BC$ because money and greed and pursuit of power pulled them away. If TCU knew they could win the national title in the Mountain West, they would've stayed. If Utah knew they had access to the BC$ national title game through the Mountain West, they would have stayed.

I'm not buying what you're selling. That's the half-cocked story that the BC$ commissioner wants everyone to believe. I don't consider it a reward to have to be invited to the party because now you're cool enough. That is straight up crap!

Yeah man, Eastern Michigan should make just as much money as Texas. Middle Tennessee should make no less than Ohio St. If I open up a retail store chain I should be able to make as much money as Walmart just because I'm a retail store like them. Your logic is illogical.