With one win in their last two games, both Miami and Toledo will join NIU, Temple and Ohio as MAC teams with 7 or more wins. Three of these teams will be assigned to the LCB, Godaddy, and Humanuitarian Bowls. The other two at-larges will most likely get bids as they will have preference over 6-6 at-large teams.
Can anyone state specifically and equivocally which bowls the MAC maintains a back-up (contingency) arrangement? Obviously we have two teams available to fill any possible bowl that we have a back-up arrangment with.
I was watching the results today and I think in general there was some help given the MAC in terms of having more than 3 teams gain opportunities for bowls. There were a number of BCS conference teams straining to get 6 wins that lost today..it'll be interesting to see how it works out in the end.
(11-14-2010 12:29 AM)exCincy Kid Wrote: [ -> ]I was watching the results today and I think in general there was some help given the MAC in terms of having more than 3 teams gain opportunities for bowls. There were a number of BCS conference teams straining to get 6 wins that lost today..it'll be interesting to see how it works out in the end.
Iowa State and Illinois both shot themselves in the foot. Before today, I would have counted both teams in bowls. After their losses, both may be staying home.
It is looking like the MAC will get a team into the bowl in Birmingham, and there is a slight chance the bowl in Dallas could be a possibility if the Big 10 can't field a team, and CUSA can't place a team as the first back-up.
For MAC to get B-10 in Detriot, USF wins BE & ILL wins 1 vs NW or Frenso
However ND available now with win over ARMY
I think ND would play 7 win Mia in Detriot, MAC would need
Pac-10 to fill Las Vagas Bowl & NM comes into play.
With Boise & TCU going BCS
NM might be able to offer ND vs B-12 school If TEX wins out
or ACC if BC, Clemson & GaT all pick up 1 more win
I can't see ND in Birmingham or San Fran vs Frenso
I see Ga-Louv in Bir & ILL wins 1 more game
MAC can shop Temple & Toledo
That assumes Temple loses before then. Were Temple to win the MACC, they would be in Detroit for Pizzax2. Temple's best option to get the best bowl would be lose the MACC, but take a lot of fans to Detroit for it. Bowls looking for at-larges will be interested in how Temple shows up far from home. Toledo has more history in this regard.
(11-14-2010 10:43 AM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ]That assumes Temple loses before then. Were Temple to win the MACC, they would be in Detroit for Pizzax2. Temple's best option to get the best bowl would be lose the MACC, but take a lot of fans to Detroit for it. Bowls looking for at-larges will be interested in how Temple shows up far from home. Toledo has more history in this regard.
So Axe - you are saying for Temple to get the "best/most attractive" bowl they can, it is best to lose the MAC Championship (if they get there).
Thanks
(11-14-2010 11:19 AM)Owls Head Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 10:43 AM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ]That assumes Temple loses before then. Were Temple to win the MACC, they would be in Detroit for Pizzax2. Temple's best option to get the best bowl would be lose the MACC, but take a lot of fans to Detroit for it. Bowls looking for at-larges will be interested in how Temple shows up far from home. Toledo has more history in this regard.
So Axe - you are saying for Temple to get the "best/most attractive" bowl they can, it is best to lose the MAC Championship (if they get there).
Thanks
Sure. Of course, no one would do that because a MACC win would trump the piddly bowls the MAC gets. But if you win the MACC this year, your prize is a return trip to Detroit and a game likely vs. a 6-6 non-AQ team.
(11-14-2010 11:38 AM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 11:19 AM)Owls Head Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 10:43 AM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ]That assumes Temple loses before then. Were Temple to win the MACC, they would be in Detroit for Pizzax2. Temple's best option to get the best bowl would be lose the MACC, but take a lot of fans to Detroit for it. Bowls looking for at-larges will be interested in how Temple shows up far from home. Toledo has more history in this regard.
So Axe - you are saying for Temple to get the "best/most attractive" bowl they can, it is best to lose the MAC Championship (if they get there).
Thanks
Sure. Of course, no one would do that because a MACC win would trump the piddly bowls the MAC gets. But if you win the MACC this year, your prize is a return trip to Detroit and a game likely vs. a 6-6 non-AQ team.
I doubt that MAC Champ goes to Detroit this year.... if Toledo is 8-4 they will go to the pizza bowl.
(11-14-2010 12:37 PM)utpotts Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 11:38 AM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 11:19 AM)Owls Head Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 10:43 AM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ]That assumes Temple loses before then. Were Temple to win the MACC, they would be in Detroit for Pizzax2. Temple's best option to get the best bowl would be lose the MACC, but take a lot of fans to Detroit for it. Bowls looking for at-larges will be interested in how Temple shows up far from home. Toledo has more history in this regard.
So Axe - you are saying for Temple to get the "best/most attractive" bowl they can, it is best to lose the MAC Championship (if they get there).
Thanks
Sure. Of course, no one would do that because a MACC win would trump the piddly bowls the MAC gets. But if you win the MACC this year, your prize is a return trip to Detroit and a game likely vs. a 6-6 non-AQ team.
I doubt that MAC Champ goes to Detroit this year.... if Toledo is 8-4 they will go to the pizza bowl.
Wanna bet?
(11-14-2010 12:37 PM)utpotts Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt that MAC Champ goes to Detroit this year.... if Toledo is 8-4 they will go to the pizza bowl.
All depends on who the opponent it right?
(11-14-2010 01:16 PM)niubrad00 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 12:37 PM)utpotts Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 11:38 AM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 11:19 AM)Owls Head Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 10:43 AM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ]That assumes Temple loses before then. Were Temple to win the MACC, they would be in Detroit for Pizzax2. Temple's best option to get the best bowl would be lose the MACC, but take a lot of fans to Detroit for it. Bowls looking for at-larges will be interested in how Temple shows up far from home. Toledo has more history in this regard.
So Axe - you are saying for Temple to get the "best/most attractive" bowl they can, it is best to lose the MAC Championship (if they get there).
Thanks
Sure. Of course, no one would do that because a MACC win would trump the piddly bowls the MAC gets. But if you win the MACC this year, your prize is a return trip to Detroit and a game likely vs. a 6-6 non-AQ team.
I doubt that MAC Champ goes to Detroit this year.... if Toledo is 8-4 they will go to the pizza bowl.
Wanna bet?
Do you really think NIU would bring more fans and more money the day after Christmas than Toledo who is 45 mins away. I don't think so.
Toledo would bring 20,000 fans to the Little Caesars Bowl. No other MAC team would even come close to selling that many tickets. The only way the LCB doesn't pick Toledo is if they lose out.
(11-14-2010 02:39 PM)cleazer Wrote: [ -> ]Toledo would bring 20,000 fans to the Little Caesars Bowl. No other MAC team would even come close to selling that many tickets. The only way the LCB doesn't pick Toledo is if they lose out.
Not only that, but UT would actually stand to make money if they head to the Pizza Bowl because of proximity(bus trip instead of air).
At this point, going to Detroit beats a blank, and that is what the Rockets have had to look forward to, the last four seasons...
(11-14-2010 02:39 PM)cleazer Wrote: [ -> ]Toledo would bring 20,000 fans to the Little Caesars Bowl. No other MAC team would even come close to selling that many tickets. The only way the LCB doesn't pick Toledo is if they lose out.
I think an 8-4 UT is attractive to the Pizza Pizza Bowl. But that would not be a lock.
The first thing Toledo needs to do is win 2 more games and that is no foregone conclusion.
Second, the MAC can apply pressure to choose a certain team.
Third, there might be some thought that a Temple team hasn't been to a bowl in so long that if they are conference champ they may bring a lot of fans. But that can be said of a lot of MAC teams who hadn't been to bowls in an eternity but didn't bring large numbers of fans.
I don't see any reason a MACC champ NIU wouldn't be an excellent choice for Pizza Pizza Bowl either.
(11-14-2010 05:10 PM)owen Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 02:39 PM)cleazer Wrote: [ -> ]Toledo would bring 20,000 fans to the Little Caesars Bowl. No other MAC team would even come close to selling that many tickets. The only way the LCB doesn't pick Toledo is if they lose out.
I think an 8-4 UT is attractive to the Pizza Pizza Bowl. But that would not be a lock.
The first thing Toledo needs to do is win 2 more games and that is no foregone conclusion.
Second, the MAC can apply pressure to choose a certain team.
Third, there might be some thought that a Temple team hasn't been to a bowl in so long that if they are conference champ they may bring a lot of fans. But that can be said of a lot of MAC teams who hadn't been to bowls in an eternity but didn't bring large numbers of fans.
I don't see any reason a MACC champ NIU wouldn't be an excellent choice for Pizza Pizza Bowl either.
You mean like since last year?
(11-14-2010 05:26 PM)niubrad00 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 05:10 PM)owen Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 02:39 PM)cleazer Wrote: [ -> ]Toledo would bring 20,000 fans to the Little Caesars Bowl. No other MAC team would even come close to selling that many tickets. The only way the LCB doesn't pick Toledo is if they lose out.
I think an 8-4 UT is attractive to the Pizza Pizza Bowl. But that would not be a lock.
The first thing Toledo needs to do is win 2 more games and that is no foregone conclusion.
Second, the MAC can apply pressure to choose a certain team.
Third, there might be some thought that a Temple team hasn't been to a bowl in so long that if they are conference champ they may bring a lot of fans. But that can be said of a lot of MAC teams who hadn't been to bowls in an eternity but didn't bring large numbers of fans.
I don't see any reason a MACC champ NIU wouldn't be an excellent choice for Pizza Pizza Bowl either.
You mean like since last year?
Yeah, thanks for that, know it seems like an eternity, but Temple was in the Eagle Bank Bowl last year.
(11-14-2010 08:28 PM)Owls Head Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 05:26 PM)niubrad00 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 05:10 PM)owen Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 02:39 PM)cleazer Wrote: [ -> ]Toledo would bring 20,000 fans to the Little Caesars Bowl. No other MAC team would even come close to selling that many tickets. The only way the LCB doesn't pick Toledo is if they lose out.
I think an 8-4 UT is attractive to the Pizza Pizza Bowl. But that would not be a lock.
The first thing Toledo needs to do is win 2 more games and that is no foregone conclusion.
Second, the MAC can apply pressure to choose a certain team.
Third, there might be some thought that a Temple team hasn't been to a bowl in so long that if they are conference champ they may bring a lot of fans. But that can be said of a lot of MAC teams who hadn't been to bowls in an eternity but didn't bring large numbers of fans.
I don't see any reason a MACC champ NIU wouldn't be an excellent choice for Pizza Pizza Bowl either.
You mean like since last year?
Yeah, thanks for that, know it seems like an eternity, but Temple was in the Eagle Bank Bowl last year.
OK. Cool.
Then they are now officially irrelevant to bowl organizers unless they win the MACC.
The "no bowl in a generation" mystique is gone.
(11-14-2010 09:16 PM)owen Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 08:28 PM)Owls Head Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 05:26 PM)niubrad00 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 05:10 PM)owen Wrote: [ -> ] (11-14-2010 02:39 PM)cleazer Wrote: [ -> ]Toledo would bring 20,000 fans to the Little Caesars Bowl. No other MAC team would even come close to selling that many tickets. The only way the LCB doesn't pick Toledo is if they lose out.
I think an 8-4 UT is attractive to the Pizza Pizza Bowl. But that would not be a lock.
The first thing Toledo needs to do is win 2 more games and that is no foregone conclusion.
Second, the MAC can apply pressure to choose a certain team.
Third, there might be some thought that a Temple team hasn't been to a bowl in so long that if they are conference champ they may bring a lot of fans. But that can be said of a lot of MAC teams who hadn't been to bowls in an eternity but didn't bring large numbers of fans.
I don't see any reason a MACC champ NIU wouldn't be an excellent choice for Pizza Pizza Bowl either.
You mean like since last year?
Yeah, thanks for that, know it seems like an eternity, but Temple was in the Eagle Bank Bowl last year.
OK. Cool.
Then they are now officially irrelevant to bowl organizers unless they win the MACC.
The "no bowl in a generation" mystique is gone.
Yeap, I would say 1979-2009 would constitute that...
Also, what MAC football team has the longest bowl drought? Is it Kent?