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Cronin: ‘Bishop didn’t handle frustration well’
Posted by bkoch October 27th, 2010, 11:29 am

Mick Cronin has never specified exactly why Rashad Bishop was suspended for the spring and summer. There have been plenty of rumors out there about what happened, but Cronin continues to say it wasn’t just one thing, but a series of events that led to the suspension.

In a recent interview, Cronin said part of the reason for the suspension had to do with how Bishop related to his teammates.

“He got frustrated at times,” Cronin said. “He got frustrated with last year, the tough losses, sliding out of the NCAA Tournament, and he didn’t handle it well. The truth about his frustration is he just wants to win.

“It was the way he handled it with his teammates. You can’t point fingers at them. You’ve got to work harder. And, what example are you setting? Just because you want to win and you’re frustrated that we lost, you can’t get mad at certain guys.

“How much are you really working on your game? When was the last time you were early or (or stayed) late working on shooting the basketball? How committed are you away from just when we’re in practice. You’ve got to look in the mirror. You’ve got to lead by example. You don’t have to say a word, just lead by example.”

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/uc/2010/10/2...tion-well/

This is one of two kids I'll be watching more closely this year. He made 3 or 4 plays last year that made you sit up and take notice.

Consistency and toughness is the word for all the players. It has been missing the past 4 years and it's up to the coaching staff to bring it out.

I would agree with consistency but would disagree with you on toughness to a degree. They were physically tough as evidenced by their defense and team rebounding. I would agree their mental toughness was not great as evidenced by the many tight losses. We will see if a year of experience will improve their mental toughness.

(10-27-2010 12:35 PM)Topkat Wrote: [ -> ]This is one of two kids I'll be watching more closely this year. He made 3 or 4 plays last year that made you sit up and take notice.
Consistency and toughness is the word for all the players. It has been missing the past 4 years and it's up to the coaching staff to bring it out.

Do you mean good plays or horrible plays?

I always thought Rashad played pretty hard when he was on the floor, gave good defensive effort, and rebounded the ball well. He is a decent ball handler, and an okay outside shot when he has time.

I think most people had problems with his facial expressions and body language (well, and his mouth when he got kicked out of the game for his tussle with DJ Kennedy). All that stuff couldn't matter less to me as long as he is playing hard and playing smart.

Anyone know what teammates he was getting frustrated with? (I have my own guesses)

I’m gonna spin this article in another direction. Maybe Bishop’s approach is right. Maybe yelling at these guys, getting mad at certain guys, and holding them accountable is exactly what this team is lacking. Mick obviously isn’t doing it. Based on Bishop getting suspended for this, one could ascertain that Mick must not accept guys expecting their teammates to do what it takes to win.

(10-27-2010 02:40 PM)nachoman91 Wrote: [ -> ]I’m gonna spin this article in another direction. Maybe Bishop’s approach is right. Maybe yelling at these guys, getting mad at certain guys, and holding them accountable is exactly what this team is lacking. Mick obviously isn’t doing it. Based on Bishop getting suspended for this, one could ascertain that Mick must not accept guys expecting their teammates to do what it takes to win.

I think there is definitely a time for doing that. The difference is whether its constructive criticism, kick-in-the-pants type stuff, or if its nagging, whining, pouting, humiliating-type comments. I also think Mick made a good point about showing up and working harder and putting in the extra time to be great. You can't really force a guy to do those things (i.e Yancy).

unless youre driven like Jordan was, I cant really see why a player would slam his team mates on the court during a game, do your job and keep job head down and keep shoveling until the final second, thats my approach

(10-27-2010 12:17 PM)ctipton Wrote: [ -> ]Cronin: ‘Bishop didn’t handle frustration well’
Posted by bkoch October 27th, 2010, 11:29 am

Mick Cronin has never specified exactly why Rashad Bishop was suspended for the spring and summer. There have been plenty of rumors out there about what happened, but Cronin continues to say it wasn’t just one thing, but a series of events that led to the suspension.

In a recent interview, Cronin said part of the reason for the suspension had to do with how Bishop related to his teammates.

“He got frustrated at times,” Cronin said. “He got frustrated with last year, the tough losses, sliding out of the NCAA Tournament, and he didn’t handle it well. The truth about his frustration is he just wants to win.

“It was the way he handled it with his teammates. You can’t point fingers at them. You’ve got to work harder. And, what example are you setting? Just because you want to win and you’re frustrated that we lost, you can’t get mad at certain guys.

“How much are you really working on your game? When was the last time you were early or (or stayed) late working on shooting the basketball? How committed are you away from just when we’re in practice. You’ve got to look in the mirror. You’ve got to lead by example. You don’t have to say a word, just lead by example.”

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/uc/2010/10/2...tion-well/

I completely agree with Cronin's comments regarding looking in the mirror.

I also feel Rashad is one of those guys who could have a big year. But he tends to disappear at times too. And his emotional meltdown while playing Xavier last year didn't help either.

"Bishop didn't handle frustration well"

Cronin doesn't have a clue about team chemistry, player development, and kicking the a## of his "star" players. Hopefully the Next Coach
will run an actual offense.
When is the last time Cronin took responsibility for anything related to
Bearcat Basketball?

Cronin totally lost me when he said last post season that if UC won a few more games.........other
bigger programs would be calling him trying to hire him away from UC. I feel really bad for the guy in some
respects, the divorce and that junk (heard a couple of different rumors) but he is pulling in
$750,000 a year. When Chris Mack dressed him in the media that told me something about how
he is viewed in the coach community.

(10-27-2010 06:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Cronin totally lost me when he said last post season that if UC won a few more games.........other
bigger programs would be calling him trying to hire him away from UC. I feel really bad for the guy in some
respects, the divorce and that junk (heard a couple of different rumors) but he is pulling in
$750,000 a year. When Chris Mack dressed him in the media that told me something about how
he is viewed in the coach community.

Chris Mack? F a bunch of chris Mack.

Cronin is here. Best interest for uc for him to do well. So might as well support him and the team and hope that this year breaks drought. Need bishop to step up. Need cash to step up. I just want to see gates like he was early last year. Thomas should be improved again. Get some scoring from SK and see what happens.

(10-27-2010 07:31 PM)50Cent Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2010 06:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Cronin totally lost me when he said last post season that if UC won a few more games.........other
bigger programs would be calling him trying to hire him away from UC. I feel really bad for the guy in some
respects, the divorce and that junk (heard a couple of different rumors) but he is pulling in
$750,000 a year. When Chris Mack dressed him in the media that told me something about how
he is viewed in the coach community.

Chris Mack? F a bunch of chris Mack.

Cronin is here. Best interest for uc for him to do well. So might as well support him and the team and hope that this year breaks drought. Need bishop to step up. Need cash to step up. I just want to see gates like he was early last year. Thomas should be improved again. Get some scoring from SK and see what happens.

:ncaabbs:
Dead on, my man.
I'm convinced however there are several posters here who are actually rooting against Cronin, just so they can say "I told ya so".

Best case for this team is for Cronin to be successful here and now. I for one believe he will be.

Quote:Cronin totally lost me when he said last post season that if UC won a few more games.........other
bigger programs would be calling him trying to hire him away from UC

That will go down as one of his all time classic along with his bragging about increasing wins each season. It can't be by accident that we are playing teams from the absolute worst conferences. I mean a MAC conference game is like a big deal now.

Quote:I feel really bad for the guy in some
respects, the divorce and that junk

glad you mentioned it. I'm sure the cronies were saving that one as the final excuse if he is canned after the season.

And the hits just keep on coming.....

(10-27-2010 07:54 PM)bearcatjim Wrote: [ -> ]I'm convinced however there are several posters here who are actually rooting against Cronin, just so they can say "I told ya so".

Let's be honest...Can't they now?

I've never been a big Bishop guy, but he's serviceable. Being a SR with something to prove, hopefully he'll have his best season.

I'm not overly excited about the Cats roster, but for some reason when looking at the schedule I only see them losing 8-10 games regular season. I know I'm being overly optimistic though...I had them undefeated non-con.

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Let's be honest...Can't they now?
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Huh?

He hasn't been very good. I thought you were implying that to be the meaning of their "I told you so"s.

(10-27-2010 07:54 PM)bearcatjim Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2010 07:31 PM)50Cent Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2010 06:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Cronin totally lost me when he said last post season that if UC won a few more games.........other
bigger programs would be calling him trying to hire him away from UC. I feel really bad for the guy in some
respects, the divorce and that junk (heard a couple of different rumors) but he is pulling in
$750,000 a year. When Chris Mack dressed him in the media that told me something about how
he is viewed in the coach community.

Chris Mack? F a bunch of chris Mack.

Cronin is here. Best interest for uc for him to do well. So might as well support him and the team and hope that this year breaks drought. Need bishop to step up. Need cash to step up. I just want to see gates like he was early last year. Thomas should be improved again. Get some scoring from SK and see what happens.

:ncaabbs:
Dead on, my man.
I'm convinced however there are several posters here who are actually rooting against Cronin, just so they can say "I told ya so".

Best case for this team is for Cronin to be successful here and now. I for one believe he will be.

X 3 - I agree

(10-28-2010 12:34 AM)Eastside_J Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2010 07:54 PM)bearcatjim Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2010 07:31 PM)50Cent Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-27-2010 06:10 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Cronin totally lost me when he said last post season that if UC won a few more games.........other
bigger programs would be calling him trying to hire him away from UC. I feel really bad for the guy in some
respects, the divorce and that junk (heard a couple of different rumors) but he is pulling in
$750,000 a year. When Chris Mack dressed him in the media that told me something about how
he is viewed in the coach community.

Chris Mack? F a bunch of chris Mack.

Cronin is here. Best interest for uc for him to do well. So might as well support him and the team and hope that this year breaks drought. Need bishop to step up. Need cash to step up. I just want to see gates like he was early last year. Thomas should be improved again. Get some scoring from SK and see what happens.

:ncaabbs:
Dead on, my man.
I'm convinced however there are several posters here who are actually rooting against Cronin, just so they can say "I told ya so".

Best case for this team is for Cronin to be successful here and now. I for one believe he will be.

X 3 - I agree

Well said!

A successful alum working for high-major peanuts is the ideal situation for this program. The jury is still out on Mick, but I'll root for him as long as he's the coach. There's definitely a faction of the board that is down on Mick, but I think the majority are still loyal supporters that want the program to succeed regardless. There's a difference between warranted criticism and just being a cynical ass on every basketball thread.

Come on guys. The season hasn't even started yet.

(10-27-2010 10:01 PM)DelhiBearcat Wrote: [ -> ]He hasn't been very good. I thought you were implying that to be the meaning of their "I told you so"s.

That's a matter of perspective. I think he's been pretty good, even if I wish he'd done even better.

So, to answer your question, no I don't believe anyone can say "I told you so" yet. Well, they can, but it would be premature, hand in hand with their unrealistic expectations.

Honestly, many of the people that are so hard on Cronin are the same ones that poke fun at the fans of Louisville, OSU, and ND because they feel it's their god-given right to win championships, and anything less is unacceptable.

Cronin will get us back to The Show, and keep us competitive for a long time, if people give him the chance to truly rebuild the program.

The Big East is not for the faint of heart in basketball. I'd argue that the teams that finish 9-12 in the Big East and miss the tourney, would probably compete for the championship in any other conference outside of the BCS conferences.

Anyway, I digress, I'm not going to change anybody's mind on that. You either have confidence in Mick or you don't.

My point was I really, really hope folks can at least root for him, and not against him. I see several on here that I have my doubts about, and they call themselves Bearcat fans.