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Well,the first BCS poll is out and, surprise, Boise State is third and TCU fifth.

Oklahoma is number one. Number one? What a farce. Let me tell you,living out here in the plains of Oklahoma, I can tell you the Sooners are far from being the number one team in the nation. Now Sooner nation will be insufferable!
The problem is the BCS does not allow the computer pollsters to use margin of victory in their formulas. As a result, the quality of the quantitative rankings tends to be compromised.
according to airport k.c. they have the wrong OU.it should be the OU

bobcats with thier superior schedule. beating a winless akron team

should moves them to #1.03-lmfao03-lmfao
Well in my opinion any team that beats Akron should be number 1 every time...j/k.
(10-17-2010 11:27 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ]Well in my opinion any team that beats Akron should be number 1 every time...j/k.

Thanks for adding "j/k" to the end of your statement. Otherwise, I would have thought you were dead serious.
OU 31 Utah State 24
OU 47 FSU 17
OU 27 Air Force 24
OU 31 UCinn 29
OU 28 Texas 20
OU 52 Iowa State 0
(10-17-2010 11:27 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ]Well in my opinion any team that beats Akron should be number 1 every time...j/k.

Log jam at the top.
and wonder of wonders, NOW Boise can do nothing but wait and hope everybody else loses, cuz SOS is going to drag them down. Is any further proof needed that it's the BS system?
(10-18-2010 10:12 AM)Karl Wrote: [ -> ]and wonder of wonders, NOW Boise can do nothing but wait and hope everybody else loses, cuz SOS is going to drag them down. Is any further proof needed that it's the BS system?

Boise finished about the same last year in the computer polls actually as what they are this week.

Yes they'll play a weaker SOS but winning will keep them in the top 5. The WAC is having a pretty good year (rated above the Big East) in the computer polls too which should help.
Boise only needs to be in second to get to the title game.
Those losses by Oregon State and Virginia Tech are killing Boise. Did Nevada lose as well if they did that hurts even more.
(10-18-2010 10:37 AM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ]Those losses by Oregon State and Virginia Tech are killing Boise. Did Nevada lose as well if they did that hurts even more.

-Virginia Tech in now #23 in the BCS standings and rising.

-Nevada lost to Hawaii, a solid WAC team so it may not hurt as the season plays out.

Weekly Sagarin ratings:

PAC-10 82.52
Big XII 78.91
SEC 78.00
Big Ten 75.83

ACC 72.32
MWC 70.93
WAC 69.82
Big East 69.51

CUSA 63.23
MAC 60.42
SBC 53.61

Both the WAC and MWC are stronger than what they were last year when TCU finished #5 and Boise #6 in the computer polls.

TCU and Boise beat Oregon State so if they finish strong including an upset of Oregon that will really help the non-AQ case.
Yes if those teams keep winning it will make them better wins but when those losses happened it hurt. If Virginia Tech and Oregon State had not lost then they would be higher in the rankings and perhaps Boise would be number 1 or 2 instead of 3. Now does it matter? I am not sure. Considering how the year is going Boise may be happy not being number 1. Boise still needs other teams to lose to make sure they get into the NC game.
(10-18-2010 12:30 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ]Yes if those teams keep winning it will make them better wins but when those losses happened it hurt. If Virginia Tech and Oregon State had not lost then they would be higher in the rankings and perhaps Boise would be number 1 or 2 instead of 3. Now does it matter? I am not sure. Considering how the year is going Boise may be happy not being number 1. Boise still needs other teams to lose to make sure they get into the NC game.

VT is still very capable of rising into the top 10 from where they are in the standings today.

OSU beats Oregon and that is all that is needed there.
I know they can, but the conversation is why Boise is not number one right now. Heck Oklahoma could lose to Mizzou or somebody else in the Big 12 next week and Oregon could lose to somebody in the Pac-10. Then Boise is number 1. If Oklahoma is a fraud it will be found out. Boise's wins will become better again if those teams continue to win, but those teams can also slide hurting Boise again. Right now I think Boise is in a fine position to take advantage of any mistakes made by Oregon, Oklahoma, and Auburn/LSU.
(10-18-2010 12:53 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ]I know they can, but the conversation is why Boise is not number one right now.

Then why did you come up with a post bemoaning VT and OSU losses? In fact several of them.
(10-18-2010 06:56 PM)OZoner Wrote: [ -> ]http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/ne...ebcs101310

Great article.

As a computer pollster myself, I think that MOV is a good predictor of performance.

I don't use it though (aside from preseason) because its not how you play the game but if you won or not that ultimately counts.

I've been giving non-AQ schools bonuses if they've beaten ranked teams. A ranked win is huge for a program and its recruiting.

I also give a small penalty for losing to an AQ conference school while a big penalty for losing to an FCS club. That is a black mark on the season and for years to come.

Not taking into consideration things like the MWC's better bowl package and home scheduling than the MAC is questionable, IMO. Those factors hurt the MAC without a doubt.

Finally the MAC is in an era where a winning record will provide a bowl game making my preseason formula including bowl wins relavent across the non-AQ. I have thought about including conference championships in tradition but Independent schools don't have conference championships so that would be unfair.
Well people were talking about how Boise should be #1, that there is a conspiracy, and there was no good reason for Boise to anything but number 1. When I was talking those losses killing Boise (maybe a little dramatic sounding I admit) I meant that they were a big reason Boise slipped to number 3 in the BCS. If Virginia Tech never lost to a FCS team (even if it is a good one that still hurts a lot in the computer polls) and Oregon State had not lost twice (Washington is not terrible and TCU is a very good team) then I think that Boise would have been number 1 or 2 and so people's complaints would not occur. A win at Nevada is now also lessened though Hawaii is now a better win (though I think Nevada losing hurts more than Hawaii's win helps).

That is why I said it hurts. It hurts now. It may become better later and even if it does not get better for VT or the beavers Boise still can get in if the other teams cooperate and lose a game or two.
(10-18-2010 11:13 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote: [ -> ]Well people were talking about how Boise should be #1, that there is a conspiracy, and there was no good reason for Boise to anything but number 1. When I was talking those losses killing Boise (maybe a little dramatic sounding I admit) I meant that they were a big reason Boise slipped to number 3 in the BCS. If Virginia Tech never lost to a FCS team (even if it is a good one that still hurts a lot in the computer polls) and Oregon State had not lost twice (Washington is not terrible and TCU is a very good team) then I think that Boise would have been number 1 or 2 and so people's complaints would not occur. A win at Nevada is now also lessened though Hawaii is now a better win (though I think Nevada losing hurts more than Hawaii's win helps).

Boise State was almost #2 this week so I have to agree with you if VT didn't lose to JMU and Oregon State didn't go down to Washington (likely placing OSU in the top 25) Boise would probably be #2 this week.

If you want a non-AQ in the title game you want to root for Boise, TCU, OSU, and VT this season.
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