If what I am reading is true. Big corporations are allowed to opt out. This will not stand. When the Republicans take the House and maybe Senate I hope they understand they have the responsibility to lead. We can't afford the system we are in. The trajectory of medical expenses can not be sustained. For the unfortunate who find themselves in situations where they need medical help. The burden should not be on them to fund those that can not pay their bills. That's the system we have now. I hope we can find a system where there are no caps and children can not be denied care because of a pre existing condition.
(10-07-2010 11:20 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]If what I am reading is true. Big corporations are allowed to opt out. This will not stand. When the Republicans take the House and maybe Senate I hope they understand they have the responsibility to lead. We can't afford the system we are in. The trajectory of medical expenses can not be sustained. For the unfortunate who find themselves in situations where they need medical help. The burden should not be on them to fund those that can not pay their bills. That's the system we have now. I hope we can find a system where there are no caps and children can not be denied care because of a pre existing condition.
you just professed hope for the system obama and the dems passed.
The undeniable fact is the Democrats were irresponsible in the way Obamacare was forced on the people. Insurance industry got exactly what it wanted. Lawyers got exactly what they wanted. Unions got a pass. And now big business are getting waivers. This is irresponsible, the people know it and will (hopefully) hold those responsible for it, accountable.
I'm holding out hope for an expansion of the HSA's. My whole family is covered and no one can be kicked out. It costs me 2400 a year. If I spend that I have 100 percent coverage. There's some expense to me but it also changes the conversation between my doctor and my pharmacy. I truly think this is a way out.
HSA's for the masses. Let's some market forces enter the equation to a point. Then you have coverage.
(10-07-2010 12:18 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]I'm holding out hope for an expansion of the HSA's. My whole family is covered and no one can be kicked out. It costs me 2400 a year. If I spend that I have 100 percent coverage. There's some expense to me but it also changes the conversation between my doctor and my pharmacy. I truly think this is a way out.
200 per month for an entire family? WTF have you been bitching and whining about all these GDamn years!???
It's always been commonly accepted that there would be large changes as time went on. That's a given with anything on this big a scale.
(10-07-2010 12:21 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]HSA's for the masses. Let's some market forces enter the equation to a point. Then you have coverage.
HSAs will never fly with the Democrats. They will say that the evil rich can put all they want into one whereas the poor and middle class cannot. So they will restrict the rich and subsidize the rest and we will be right back where we are now.
The GOP has a great opportunity here to fix what the Democrats broke. I just pray they don't drop the ball with health care like they did during the Bush years.
It's 2400 individual 4800 family. Mea Culpa.
You could subsidize the health care costs (4800) to a point I guess. I still think you need skin in the game. But the kicker is if you don't spend that 4800 it is yours. So people don't want to go to the doctor unless they really need it. I plan on spending my 4800 every year. The main point is. It changes the conversation. Brings market forces into the equation. That's a good thing. Catastrophes are covered still.
Why not just make all medical expenses totally deductible? That would be a lot better than HSA's.
(10-07-2010 01:10 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]It's 2400 individual 4800 family. Mea Culpa.
Still not bad. My wife takes $500 out of her paycheck every month to add me to her insurance. It'll be $700 a month for the family plan when our baby is born in February.
(10-07-2010 11:22 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote: [ -> ]lolz
lulz
That's a pretty damn ****** plan you got stuck with Moe At that price I would find it pretty hard to justify getting insurance at all.
(10-07-2010 01:32 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote: [ -> ]That's a pretty damn ****** plan you got stuck with Moe At that price I would find it pretty hard to justify getting insurance at all.
That's what I get for being married to a teacher.
Stanley,
I just googled lulz........... this is one definition:
The lulz is, after all, the ancient spirit that once made the young become Marxists, ...
Is that what you meant ?................ If so, that is a lol.
(10-07-2010 01:37 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]Stanley,
I just googled lulz........... this is one definition:
The lulz is, after all, the ancient spirit that once made the young become Marxists, ...
Is that what you meant ?................ If so, that is a lol.
