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(Will Neighbour)

Pretty important day in recent Trojan history, I would say.

(10-04-2010 04:50 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ](Will Neighbour)

Pretty important day in recent Trojan history, I would say.

Does anybody know if the verbal committment that Slatton was talking about a few days ago ever took place?

(10-04-2010 06:56 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-04-2010 04:50 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ](Will Neighbour)

Pretty important day in recent Trojan history, I would say.

Does anybody know if the verbal committment that Slatton was talking about a few days ago ever took place?

Yes. Rivals now lists James White as a solid verbal to UALR.

(10-04-2010 07:19 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-04-2010 06:56 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-04-2010 04:50 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ](Will Neighbour)

Pretty important day in recent Trojan history, I would say.

Does anybody know if the verbal committment that Slatton was talking about a few days ago ever took place?

Yes. Rivals now lists James White as a solid verbal to UALR.

What about Will Neighbours? That is who I thought Slatton was referring to a few days ago.

I don't know. I am hoping for the best. It sounds like we got a couple of players in this last class, so maybe Steve is having some luck.

(10-05-2010 05:17 AM)insideualr Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know. I am hoping for the best. It sounds like we got a couple of players in this last class, so maybe Steve is having some luck.

I realize that any coach is going to have his critics, and Steve is no exception to the rule. He's had a pretty good run here, and the only criticism most have voiced is that we haven't made the postseason.

There's no doubt that we all would really like to start getting to the post season in some form or fashion, but it hasn't been in the cards for a long while. Maybe our cycle is about to come. As a long time fan, all I can do is enjoy the games and hope for success for Steve and the team. We all truly like Steve and appreciate his contributions to the program. So maybe we'll do something special when we least expect it. That would be a bonus. So for this season I say "Good luck Steve and Go Trojans!"

(10-05-2010 10:14 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]I realize that any coach is going to have his critics, and Steve is no exception to the rule. He's had a pretty good run here, and the only criticism most have voiced is that we haven't made the postseason.

I hope he wins it all this year, but not making it to post season isn't the only complaint against Steve. Some complain that he can't recruit, and that he isn't offensive minded and he can't coach offense. His offense is boring and most often times he has only one weapon that can score. He normally does a great job defensively, but you have to be able to score as well as defend to win championships, and I'm not speaking of western division championships either.

As I said, I hope we win it all this year, but it won't happen. Surely we'll be better than we were last year, but some of you are setting yourselves up for another year of disappointment. I've said many times that Steve won't win the Sun Belt championship. We might accidentally sneak into the NIT sometime. After all, the law of averages are bound to kick in sometime. This program is trying to go upstream with a paddle.

(10-05-2010 11:00 AM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Surely we'll be better than we were last year, but some of you are setting yourselves up for another year of disappointment.

Not I. I picked us 5th.

(10-05-2010 10:14 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]He's had a pretty good run here

That he has. I have enjoyed it. Clean program. Won lots more than lost. My kind of basketball.

(10-05-2010 12:18 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 11:00 AM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Surely we'll be better than we were last year, but some of you are setting yourselves up for another year of disappointment.

Not I. I picked us 5th.

Hard to pick us higher than 4th based on what we know about us and other teams in the West. Still, the difference between a really good and a mediocre season is a few close wins. Two years ago we won all the close ones. Last year we lost all the close ones (and a bunch that weren't close).

(10-05-2010 12:58 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 12:18 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 11:00 AM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Surely we'll be better than we were last year, but some of you are setting yourselves up for another year of disappointment.

Not I. I picked us 5th.

Hard to pick us higher than 4th based on what we know about us and other teams in the West. Still, the difference between a really good and a mediocre season is a few close wins. Two years ago we won all the close ones. Last year we lost all the close ones (and a bunch that weren't close).

Reason we didn't win some of the close ones. Poor ball movement. Not looking for the open man. One man trying to do it all himself. Wrong people trying to take the last shot. If we are to win the close games, there needs to be some soul searching on the part of some of the players and not care who makes or takes the winning shot. Get the ball to the best open shooter if possible. When that occurs, we'll win those close games.

(10-05-2010 01:25 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Reason we didn't win some of the close ones. Poor ball movement. Not looking for the open man. One man trying to do it all himself.

We played as a team year before last. We did not last year.

(10-05-2010 04:16 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 01:25 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Reason we didn't win some of the close ones. Poor ball movement. Not looking for the open man. One man trying to do it all himself.

We played as a team year before last. We did not last year.

+1

(10-05-2010 04:54 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 04:16 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 01:25 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Reason we didn't win some of the close ones. Poor ball movement. Not looking for the open man. One man trying to do it all himself.

We played as a team year before last. We did not last year.

+1

Wait a second. Weren't there a number of folks complaining two years ago that Stevee wasn't a team player? He wasn't there last season if I recall correctly.

(10-05-2010 07:03 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 04:54 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 04:16 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 01:25 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Reason we didn't win some of the close ones. Poor ball movement. Not looking for the open man. One man trying to do it all himself.

We played as a team year before last. We did not last year.

+1

Wait a second. Weren't there a number of folks complaining two years ago that Stevee wasn't a team player? He wasn't there last season if I recall correctly.

If you went back and checked I think you'd find we won most of the games that Stevie missed when he was suspended. Matt started a lot of games that season, was the leading scorer in a number of them, and we won the great majority of them. Some seemed to think we lost in the tournament because of losing Stevie. Not true. We would have lost whether he played or not. We were as good or better a team that season without Stevie. I think the figures will bear me out.

(10-05-2010 07:03 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 04:54 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 04:16 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 01:25 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Reason we didn't win some of the close ones. Poor ball movement. Not looking for the open man. One man trying to do it all himself.

We played as a team year before last. We did not last year.

+1

Wait a second. Weren't there a number of folks complaining two years ago that Stevee wasn't a team player? He wasn't there last season if I recall correctly.

I remember some folks did say players were not passing the ball to III. Those players included more than Stevee.

(10-05-2010 07:45 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 07:03 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 04:54 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 04:16 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 01:25 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Reason we didn't win some of the close ones. Poor ball movement. Not looking for the open man. One man trying to do it all himself.

We played as a team year before last. We did not last year.

+1

Wait a second. Weren't there a number of folks complaining two years ago that Stevee wasn't a team player? He wasn't there last season if I recall correctly.

If you went back and checked I think you'd find we won most of the games that Stevie missed when he was suspended. Matt started a lot of games that season, was the leading scorer in a number of them, and we won the great majority of them. Some seemed to think we lost in the tournament because of losing Stevie. Not true. We would have lost whether he played or not. We were as good or better a team that season without Stevie. I think the figures will bear me out.

I'll always believe we would have beaten WKU and, at least, gone to the NIT that year if the Stevee "incident" hadn't have happened. We were up by double digits when he went out. I also don't think we would have been nearly as inept in the tournament if we had Stevee, but of course you never really know.

(10-05-2010 07:03 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]Wait a second. Weren't there a number of folks complaining two years ago that Stevee wasn't a team player? He wasn't there last season if I recall correctly.

I was speaking in a generality. I think most of the guys played very well together as a team.

(10-05-2010 08:21 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]I'll always believe we would have beaten WKU and, at least, gone to the NIT that year if the Stevee "incident" hadn't have happened. We were up by double digits when he went out. I also don't think we would have been nearly as inept in the tournament if we had Stevee, but of course you never really know.

I agree. I felt very good about that game, and I think we would have won it. An incident like that is very distracting, and basketball is so intense, and such a game of inches, that you don't need distractions - even coaches shouting needless instructions of things you already know.

(10-05-2010 07:45 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 07:03 PM)mjs Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 04:54 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 04:16 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2010 01:25 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]Reason we didn't win some of the close ones. Poor ball movement. Not looking for the open man. One man trying to do it all himself.

We played as a team year before last. We did not last year.

+1

Wait a second. Weren't there a number of folks complaining two years ago that Stevee wasn't a team player? He wasn't there last season if I recall correctly.

If you went back and checked I think you'd find we won most of the games that Stevie missed when he was suspended. Matt started a lot of games that season, was the leading scorer in a number of them, and we won the great majority of them. Some seemed to think we lost in the tournament because of losing Stevie. Not true. We would have lost whether he played or not. We were as good or better a team that season without Stevie. I think the figures will bear me out.

One year I scored about 15 a game in college. We had a really good pg and a couple of other guys on the team that played d1 sports (lsu tightend as a center). It was great, hell I felt like I was great.

The truth was, I was only as good as those set me up to be. If you have some bigs that can score in the paint and a pg that can break his man down, the open shots are easy to knock down (for a shooter). If you don't have a pg and a big that can score/rebound then the shooter just gets to talk to his defender a lot about how he wishes he has an open shot.

Patterson was a big pg, Fowler was fast and tough, Mike was the sbc version of the round mound of rebound, and Edwards was/is a NBA player. A shooter can get some open looks with that kind of talent around him.

Moore was the icing on that cake. He could shoot the ball and get to the hole. He would have been a great 6th man. He could get his own shot but he just never mixed that well with the line up built to get the ball inside.

WN is the kind of kid Steve needs. A 4 that can shoot the ball and score. Steve's system has to have a good 4. Smith, Edwards, Too Tall, hardaman (sp?), were all 4's that could score.