They are currently playing in one of the worst tournaments I have ever seen.
Tournament teams:
North Carolina Central (2-14)
Hampton (1-14)
South Carolina State (4-11)
On a good note, the Volleyball team is 11-5. Maybe they will have a decent season.
That's weak. The only thing worse would be a tournament with USC-Upstate, FL-Gulf Coast, Kennesaw State, and Stetson. Oh wait....
I love going into Brooks and seing our only two good season trophies and SoCon Championship plaques (1989, 1990) maybe will have more stuff in that trophy case.
The ASun changing back to a single round robin is problematic for our program as far as scheduling goes. With so many non-conference matches needed and a limited travel budget there aren't a lot of quality choices for these pre-season tourneys. On the bright side, hopefully it will be a confidence booster with conference play starting next weekend.
Or maybe Devine scheduled a bunch of games she knew they would win knowing that the softball coach got axed for stinking it up. Schedule wins and create job security.
(09-25-2010 10:42 AM)LetsgoBucs Wrote: [ -> ]\ limited travel budget \
Limited travel budget?? Interesting. Guess it's limited for "good" tourneys out of conference because so many of the conference teams are SO FAR AWAY!!! SO the "limited" travel budget gets eaten alive by the Big Bad A-Sun travel monster.
Opps. Was that a negative comment??
(09-26-2010 03:04 PM)straightfromthehorsesmouth Wrote: [ -> ] (09-25-2010 10:42 AM)LetsgoBucs Wrote: [ -> ]\ limited travel budget \
Limited travel budget?? Interesting. Guess it's limited for "good" tourneys out of conference because so many of the conference teams are SO FAR AWAY!!! SO the "limited" travel budget gets eaten alive by the Big Bad A-Sun travel monster.
Opps. Was that a negative comment??
Yep. Travel in conference is expensive. That's the reasoning behind going to a single round robin. That's fine for schools which have quality competition close by. We pretty much play the TN mid-majors during mid-week matches so there aren't a lot of choices for pre-season tourneys without traveling far.
I pull the BS card on the expensive travel excuse. the tournament is in Durham - they could have played at Duke, NC State, UNC, Clemson, South Carolina, Georgia Tech, UGA, Kentucky, Virginia, VT, Vandy or many other schools in the same or less distance.
(09-26-2010 07:55 PM)bucfan99 Wrote: [ -> ]I pull the BS card on the expensive travel excuse. the tournament is in Durham - they could have played at Duke, NC State, UNC, Clemson, South Carolina, Georgia Tech, UGA, Kentucky, Virginia, VT, Vandy or many other schools in the same or less distance.
Your point would be valid except that the SEC and ACC both play double round robins in conference and were all playing conference games this past weekend. Actually the past two weekends. We already played Georgia and Wake this season too. Oh, and Vandy doesn't have a volleyball team.
OK. your spin is almost valid. almost! you don't want SEC and ACC then in the same distance or less is MTSU, TN Tech, EKU, Morehead State, Murray St., UTC, App. State, Davidson, PC, Charleston, West Virginia, Liberty, JMU, Richmond, or the teams that come to play them. (excuse me for not checking to see if they have volleyball teams or if they played last weekend)
my point is a progressive AD should not approve a weekend trip to play NC Central or an NCAA II, III, or NAIA tournament.
(09-24-2010 09:56 PM)lelanddavidson Wrote: [ -> ]I love going into Brooks and seing our only two good season trophies and SoCon Championship plaques (1989, 1990) maybe will have more stuff in that trophy case.
I love going to Brooks to see things, but they aint trophies
(09-28-2010 08:32 AM)bucfan99 Wrote: [ -> ]OK. your spin is almost valid. almost! you don't want SEC and ACC then in the same distance or less is MTSU, TN Tech, EKU, Morehead State, Murray St., UTC, App. State, Davidson, PC, Charleston, West Virginia, Liberty, JMU, Richmond, or the teams that come to play them. (excuse me for not checking to see if they have volleyball teams or if they played last weekend)
my point is a progressive AD should not approve a weekend trip to play NC Central or an NCAA II, III, or NAIA tournament.
SAt least if you are going to criticize a sport you clearly have no interest in and make no attempt to follow, do a little research. If you had at least checked the volleyball team's schedule you would see that we have already played UTC, App State, Davidson and play Wofford, Presbyterian, and Western Carolina later this season. That is a partial list. We played Liberty, JMU, and Morehead last year.
In volleyball, before the conference schedule, teams play in tournaments. How much experience do you have scheduling matches at the Div I level? You can't just decide you're going to play a team. With the pre-season tournaments you have to get invited. Remember, that the majority of schools like us that are close by are also trying to fill their non-conference schedules with the same schools. We can't play every school within a five hour radius of us.
And every team at every school nationwide plays matches/games against teams their level, teams better than them, and teams that are worse than them. By your logic, no "progressive" AD at the SEC/ACC schools you mentioned should allow their teams to play us. Obviously the AD at Kentucky needs to have a chat with Calipari for padding his schedule with our basketball team to open the regular season right? Or I guess he's just not a progressive AD. That's what I'm hearing you say.
Out of 32 matches we play, 22 being non-conference, you have beef with one weekend? Looks like you are just fishing for something to complain about.
what you are hearing me say is the SEC/ACC AD's will not allow their teams to spend the night to play a team the level of ETSU volleyball. (pre-season #7 ASUN, OVC, SOCON).
if you want me to complain - here goes - why was there no American flag in Brooks Gym after the renovations? in the first game the National Anthem was played but no flag to salute! your compliance director said it was "no big deal!". almost as bad as the flags that sometimes fly at softball and soccer at night without being lit. if you do not understand - ask a friend who has served!
Are you guys really arguing over volleyball?
(09-28-2010 10:59 PM)bucfan99 Wrote: [ -> ]what you are hearing me say is the SEC/ACC AD's will not allow their teams to spend the night to play a team the level of ETSU volleyball. (pre-season #7 ASUN, OVC, SOCON).
if you want me to complain - here goes - why was there no American flag in Brooks Gym after the renovations? in the first game the National Anthem was played but no flag to salute! your compliance director said it was "no big deal!". almost as bad as the flags that sometimes fly at softball and soccer at night without being lit. if you do not understand - ask a friend who has served!
In the opening weekend of the season we played in a tournament at Wake Forest that included Wake, us, Coastal Carolina, and Georgia. This was an overnight tournament. Georgia traveled overnight. Your theory is incorrect.
Belmont played Notre Dame in a tournament in Vegas. Belmont also played UConn in a tournament at Purdue. Washington (the #10 team in the country) played FGCU at a tourney at Georgia. Ohio State played Kennesaw at a tourney at Kennesaw.
These are just examples from the ASun schedule of the big conferences traveling overnight to play ASun schools.
As far as the flag goes, that is completely a facility issue that has nothing to do with our volleyball program.
(09-29-2010 04:40 AM)Goldfinger Wrote: [ -> ]Are you guys really arguing over volleyball?
Some people actually do care about sports other than men's basketball and football. You can mark that down as an undeniable truth.
(09-29-2010 06:09 AM)LetsgoBucs Wrote: [ -> ] (09-29-2010 04:40 AM)Goldfinger Wrote: [ -> ]Are you guys really arguing over volleyball?
Some people actually do care about sports other than men's basketball and football. You can mark that down as an undeniable truth.
I, like most Buc fans, support and pull for all the ETSU teams. I want them all to win and do well. The point is though that mens basketball and football are THE two flagship sports in Tennessee. ETSU is currently missing one of those sports and remains the ONLY state university in the state of Tennessee to be like this. A situation that must be corrected. No excuses.
Some people care about watching grass grow and goats mating, but that's definitely not the majority of folks.
As for your thoughts on travel, it sure as hell wasn't an issue when we played in a geographically friendly conference where the majority of the teams were within a 4-5 hour drive, but I guess you wouldn't remember that. Just the good ol' days of dealing with Florida trips and the closest opponent being 4.5 hours from Johnson City.
Keep spinning, eventually the mods will make this a No-Spin Zone.
Keep scheduling crap opponents Devine, it's the only way you can win.
(09-29-2010 06:09 AM)LetsgoBucs Wrote: [ -> ] (09-29-2010 04:40 AM)Goldfinger Wrote: [ -> ]Are you guys really arguing over volleyball?
Some people actually do care about sports other than men's basketball and football. You can mark that down as an undeniable truth.
(09-29-2010 11:01 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote: [ -> ]Some people care about watching grass grow and goats mating, but that's definitely not the majority of folks.
As for your thoughts on travel, it sure as hell wasn't an issue when we played in a geographically friendly conference where the majority of the teams were within a 4-5 hour drive, but I guess you wouldn't remember that. Just the good ol' days of dealing with Florida trips and the closest opponent being 4.5 hours from Johnson City.
Keep spinning, eventually the mods will make this a No-Spin Zone.
Keep scheduling crap opponents Devine, it's the only way you can win.
(09-29-2010 06:09 AM)LetsgoBucs Wrote: [ -> ] (09-29-2010 04:40 AM)Goldfinger Wrote: [ -> ]Are you guys really arguing over volleyball?
Some people actually do care about sports other than men's basketball and football. You can mark that down as an undeniable truth.
So my thoughts on who we can play OUT OF CONFERENCE would be changed if we were in the SoCon still? You see how that's silly right?
So we have 14 wins over "crap" teams? I'm going out on a limb here and assuming you haven't even looked a the volleyball team's schedule (again I'm assuming you're one of the "majority" who don't care about volleyball and therefore wouldn't look) so how do you know we've only beaten crap teams? So the wins over the beloved SoCon teams are crap? The win over Coastal Carolina, the defending Big South tourney champ, is crap? Are you sure? I'm also guessing you don't have enough knowledge about volleyball to really have the faintest idea of which school's have good teams and which ones don't.
As for your spin bit, aren't you guys tired of your standby defense mechanism anytime someone points out somebody's ignorance?
My points were counter to bucfan99. First his complaint was that we didn't play SEC/ACC teams and I explained how it was an impossibility last weekend. Then it was that SEC/ACC teams wouldn't play us. I pointed out that he was wrong. Then it was that SEC/ACC/big conference schools wouldn't travel overnight to play us and I pointed out he was wrong. Then he changed his complaint to the lack of a flag in the gym.
At what point did I spin anything? I'm pretty sure I listed multiple FACTS which are definitely not spin. So go ahead, tell me what I wrote that isn't true?
HA....You can take one thing for certain, letsgomullins. I don't have the first damn clue who the volleyball team has played or what their record is.