Purportedly the WAC is talking to UTSA, Tex State, Lamar and maybe even Sam Houston
along with Montana and maybe Montana State maybe Portland, SacSt, Cal-Davis, and Cal-Poly along with Denver and Seattle.
Right now the WAC is 5 Big West refugees plus Hawaii. Adding a Southland spin to the collection of former Big West and Big Sky schools might uh be interesting.
(09-21-2010 01:06 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]Purportedly the WAC is talking to UTSA, Tex State, Lamar and maybe even Sam Houston along with Montana and maybe Montana State maybe Portland, SacSt, Cal-Davis, and Cal-Poly along with Denver and Seattle.
Right now the WAC is 5 Big West refugees plus Hawaii. Adding a Southland spin to the collection of former Big West and Big Sky schools might uh be interesting.
They might as well drop the WAC down to FCS at that point.
I was thinking the WAC should be renamed to the ZZZ conference.
Every time I try to watch a WAC matchup, I fall asleep before the end of the game.
(09-21-2010 01:06 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]Purportedly the WAC is talking to UTSA, Tex State, Lamar and maybe even Sam Houston along with Montana and maybe Montana State maybe Portland, SacSt, Cal-Davis, and Cal-Poly along with Denver and Seattle.
Right now the WAC is 5 Big West refugees plus Hawaii. Adding a Southland spin to the collection of former Big West and Big Sky schools might uh be interesting.
Has McNeese ever thought about moving up?
Maybe UT-Pan American and Houston Baptist could move there, as well.
I heard San Bernardino Valley College was thinking about moving to the WAC as well.
http://www.valleycollege.edu/
Oh and also, Antelope Valley College.
http://www.avc.edu/
Two fantastic candidates that would surely improve the quality of athletics in the WAC.
(09-21-2010 01:20 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote: [ -> ]I heard San Bernardino Valley College was thinking about moving to the WAC as well.
http://www.valleycollege.edu/
Oh and also, Antelope Valley College. http://www.avc.edu/
Two fantastic candidates that would surely improve the quality of athletics in the WAC.
Yup. I'd take SBVC and Antelope on a neutral field against Troy anyday.
(09-21-2010 01:32 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2010 01:20 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote: [ -> ]I heard San Bernardino Valley College was thinking about moving to the WAC as well.
http://www.valleycollege.edu/
Oh and also, Antelope Valley College. http://www.avc.edu/
Two fantastic candidates that would surely improve the quality of athletics in the WAC.
Yup. I'd take SBVC and Antelope on a neutral field against Troy anyday.
O-U-C-H !
Troy fans are a pretty sad bunch this week. I just hope their players are feeling the same as their fans.....if so, we'll stomp them into the turf on Saturday.
(09-21-2010 01:06 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]Purportedly the WAC is talking to UTSA, Tex State, Lamar and maybe even Sam Houston along with Montana and maybe Montana State maybe Portland, SacSt, Cal-Davis, and Cal-Poly along with Denver and Seattle.
Right now the WAC is 5 Big West refugees plus Hawaii. Adding a Southland spin to the collection of former Big West and Big Sky schools might uh be interesting.
A team doesn't just move up to 1A overnight. Lamar is in its 1st year of 1AA football since it was dropped some 20 years ago. None of these teams are ready for 1A. Texas State is hoping to move up. UTSA hasn't even fielded a team yet. I can't speak for the western schools, but how in the world would adding these Southland Conference teams keep the WAC a viable conference? Why in the world would LA Tech or Hawaii want to be associated with such a conference? I don't get it.
(09-21-2010 04:59 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2010 01:06 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]Purportedly the WAC is talking to UTSA, Tex State, Lamar and maybe even Sam Houston along with Montana and maybe Montana State maybe Portland, SacSt, Cal-Davis, and Cal-Poly along with Denver and Seattle.
Right now the WAC is 5 Big West refugees plus Hawaii. Adding a Southland spin to the collection of former Big West and Big Sky schools might uh be interesting.
A team doesn't just move up to 1A overnight. Lamar is in its 1st year of 1AA football since it was dropped some 20 years ago. None of these teams are ready for 1A. Texas State is hoping to move up. UTSA hasn't even fielded a team yet. I can't speak for the western schools, but how in the world would adding these Southland Conference teams keep the WAC a viable conference? Why in the world would LA Tech or Hawaii want to be associated with such a conference? I don't get it.
They have to add two to remain an FBS conference (and keep the AQ/non-AQ ratio at 6/5). I don't think there is any debate that they will add Montana if they will accept and Montana State if that is the price of Montana. I think next on the preference list is Cal-Davis (at least it seemed to be before Nevada bailed). I think Tex State and UTSA are probably toward the bottom of their wish list but realistically I don't think Cal Davis, Cal Poly, or Portland State can resolve the stadium issues in a timely manner and Sac State by all accounts isn't in a funding position to handle the needed budget increases. That sort of throws the Texas schools to the top of the heap by default if Montana says No.
(09-21-2010 01:06 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]Purportedly the WAC is talking to UTSA, Tex State, Lamar and maybe even Sam Houston along with Montana and maybe Montana State maybe Portland, SacSt, Cal-Davis, and Cal-Poly along with Denver and Seattle.
Right now the WAC is 5 Big West refugees plus Hawaii. Adding a Southland spin to the collection of former Big West and Big Sky schools might uh be interesting.
IMO it is not in the SBC's interest to have the WAC bringing up a lot of lower division football programs in Texas.
(09-21-2010 07:52 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2010 01:06 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]Purportedly the WAC is talking to UTSA, Tex State, Lamar and maybe even Sam Houston along with Montana and maybe Montana State maybe Portland, SacSt, Cal-Davis, and Cal-Poly along with Denver and Seattle.
Right now the WAC is 5 Big West refugees plus Hawaii. Adding a Southland spin to the collection of former Big West and Big Sky schools might uh be interesting.
IMO it is not in the SBC's interest to have the WAC bringing up a lot of lower division football programs in Texas.
Not much we can do about it unless we are willing them instead.
(09-21-2010 07:37 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]They have to add two to remain an FBS conference (and keep the AQ/non-AQ ratio at 6/5). I don't think there is any debate that they will add Montana if they will accept and Montana State if that is the price of Montana. I think next on the preference list is Cal-Davis (at least it seemed to be before Nevada bailed). I think Tex State and UTSA are probably toward the bottom of their wish list but realistically I don't think Cal Davis, Cal Poly, or Portland State can resolve the stadium issues in a timely manner and Sac State by all accounts isn't in a funding position to handle the needed budget increases. That sort of throws the Texas schools to the top of the heap by default if Montana says No.
Portland State has resolved its stadium issue: PGE Park is being modified as of this writing so that the new MLS team, the Portland Timbers, can play there next year. Capacity will be 20,000. For this year only, Portland State is actually playing on a HS field.
Portland MLS -2011
Sac State's President Gonzales, who has had a goal of FBS by 2010, has the ability to increase athletic fees with no student vote required. Although Sac State has horrific basketball facilities and their FB stadium isn't much better (but meets FBS requirements), the rest of their sports and venues are relatively decent. UCDavis and Cal Poly don't have the financial resources now for the budget or stadium expansions needed.
The WAC needs additional West Coast as well as Texas-based schools with divisional play to keep travel costs viable.
(09-21-2010 08:20 PM)NoDak Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2010 07:37 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]They have to add two to remain an FBS conference (and keep the AQ/non-AQ ratio at 6/5). I don't think there is any debate that they will add Montana if they will accept and Montana State if that is the price of Montana. I think next on the preference list is Cal-Davis (at least it seemed to be before Nevada bailed). I think Tex State and UTSA are probably toward the bottom of their wish list but realistically I don't think Cal Davis, Cal Poly, or Portland State can resolve the stadium issues in a timely manner and Sac State by all accounts isn't in a funding position to handle the needed budget increases. That sort of throws the Texas schools to the top of the heap by default if Montana says No.
Portland State has resolved its stadium issue: PGE Park is being modified as of this writing so that the new MLS team, the Portland Timbers, can play there next year. Capacity will be 20,000. For this year only, Portland State is actually playing on a HS field.
Portland MLS -2011
Sac State's President Gonzales, who has had a goal of FBS by 2010, has the ability to increase athletic fees with no student vote required. Although Sac State has horrific basketball facilities and their FB stadium isn't much better (but meets FBS requirements), the rest of their sports and venues are relatively decent. UCDavis and Cal Poly don't have the financial resources now for the budget or stadium expansions needed.
The WAC needs additional West Coast as well as Texas-based schools with divisional play to keep travel costs viable.
I'm aware of the stadium situation at Portland and trying to meet attendance with the small of a cushion is rather foolhardy.
Would Sacramento State have any access to ARCO Arena (or whatever it will be called in the future)?
I think all four Texas schools (UTSA, Texas State, Lamar, Sam Houston State) are in if they apply-it keeps New Mexico State and Louisiana Tech properly bridged and makes for cleaner divisions from a geography standpoint.
At this point I could see any of the following happening with the "Pacific" Division:
Idaho/Montana
Denver/Utah State
Hawaii/San Jose State
Idaho/Seattle
Denver/Utah State
Hawaii/San Jose State
Idaho/Portland State
Montana/Utah State
Hawaii/San Jose State
Idaho/Utah State
Montana/Montana State
Hawaii/San Jose State
Idaho/Utah State
Seattle/Portland State
Hawaii/San Jose State
Idaho/Utah State
Hawaii/Portland State
Sacramento State/San Jose State
I do not believe Lamar has any intention of moving up at this time. For example, they have recently renovated Cardinal Stadium to FCS standards NOT FBC standards. If they had intended to move up, I have ot believe they would have expanded the stadium. They are in their first year in 1AA. I think this is nothing more than an internet rumor.
There is no longer a minimum size stadium for FBS, only to average 15,000 in attendance (paid or actual) once every two years.
(09-22-2010 06:27 AM)chargeradio Wrote: [ -> ]There is no longer a minimum size stadium for FBS, only to average 15,000 in attendance (paid or actual) once every two years.
Schedule Texas as a home game in Houston.
Takes care of that problem.
have fun in the "Weak A$$ Conference" Tech.
