Ives tweeted that Garber is still really high on the prospect of a 2nd NYC team.
Quote:Biggest news of the day? Red Bulls boss basically saying bring on a second New York team." NYRB not afraid of the competition, they want it.
Don Garber said MLS still talking to Wilpons about NY MLS team. RBNY have no problem with 2nd NY team, they actually sound eager for it.
Folks still don't grasp the fact that NYC market was never tapped into by old MetroStars. An NYC-based team would start with a good fanbase
Garber said a 2nd MLS team in NY wouldn't come until 2013/14, plenty of time for Red Bulls to build their fan base before 2nd team arrives
How is this even being considered? RBNY has had 15 years to build a fanbase, yet they still can't fill up their stadium (though the Hand should help a bit with that). If New Yorkers don't care enough to go to games, why should they get another team to not support? Plus it's not like we need another failed attempt at a local rivalry (Chivas fans don't care enough to even go to the Chivas-Galaxy games).
There's plenty of other cities that would embrace an MLS team: St. Louis, San Diego, Miami, Atlanta.
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I wish Memphis could get one.
I agree though, NYC doesn't deserve another team at this point in time.
Miami already had their shot and Atlanta doesn't support ****.
Will the MLS ever go to a promotion/relegation system? How many teams need to be involved before that becomes an option?
(07-15-2010 02:47 PM)UT Ceng Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Will the MLS ever go to a promotion/relegation system? How many teams need to be involved before that becomes an option?
NO!
It sounds wonderful and I would love it, but that just wouldn't be viable in the US for years. There is just not enough money in US professional soccer to make it work.
(07-15-2010 02:47 PM)UT Ceng Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Will the MLS ever go to a promotion/relegation system? How many teams need to be involved before that becomes an option?
Once they get to 20 teams, I think they'll buy up USL+NASL and try to build that league up with the goal of eventually starting some form of pro/rel.
That said, I can also easily see them just ignoring the rest of American soccer completely and concentrate on maximizing their profits. MLS is a bit like the BCS that way.
It is all about appealing to the European crowd. I went to the first two games at Red Bull Arena. Trust me, it is just a matter of time before that franchise takes off. Being able to hop on the train and go to the games is huge. You can get tanked at the game and not worry about driving.
(07-15-2010 02:50 PM)TigerEye Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2010 02:47 PM)UT Ceng Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Will the MLS ever go to a promotion/relegation system? How many teams need to be involved before that becomes an option?
Once they get to 20 teams, I think they'll buy up USL+NASL and try to build that league up with the goal of eventually starting some form of pro/rel.
That said, I can also easily see them just ignoring the rest of American soccer completely and concentrate on maximizing their profits. MLS is a bit like the BCS that way.
That would be cool if they just merged all the leagues into the MLS and did it like England with it's Premiership, Championship and lower divisions after that.
Doesn't Memphis have like a second tier USL team?
We'll go to it when the Aussies do. MLS is not unique, you can't be relegated past the second division of Holland and there are other leagues that do not do the relegation.
(07-15-2010 03:08 PM)gotigers1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2010 02:50 PM)TigerEye Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2010 02:47 PM)UT Ceng Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Will the MLS ever go to a promotion/relegation system? How many teams need to be involved before that becomes an option?
Once they get to 20 teams, I think they'll buy up USL+NASL and try to build that league up with the goal of eventually starting some form of pro/rel.
That said, I can also easily see them just ignoring the rest of American soccer completely and concentrate on maximizing their profits. MLS is a bit like the BCS that way.
That would be cool if they just merged all the leagues into the MLS and did it like England with it's Premiership, Championship and lower divisions after that.
Doesn't Memphis have like a second tier USL team?
If only... The nearest professional team at any level is AC St. Louis, but that's 300 miles away. Nearest MLS team is Kansas City at 451 miles away.
(07-15-2010 02:49 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2010 02:47 PM)UT Ceng Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Will the MLS ever go to a promotion/relegation system? How many teams need to be involved before that becomes an option?
NO!
It sounds wonderful and I would love it, but that just wouldn't be viable in the US for years. There is just not enough money in US professional soccer to make it work.
I'm not sure that it would ever work in the US. Examples of moving up abound - AFL, ABA, Seattle Sounders, but moving down would be send teams straight into bankruptcy. Has anyone ever heard of the Temple Owls after they were relegated? Didn't think so.
Maybe one day it will work out, but until the league does better promoting itself, it's going to remain as it currently is.
You can setup an American soccer pyramid pretty easily. Organize regional leagues and have teams from Memphis, Jackson, Little Rock, Tupelo etc. The USSF needs to get involved and help get this setup.
El Paso needs a team bad!!!!! Maybe then our top local players would quit going to mexico to play (sit on benches).
(07-15-2010 02:41 PM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]Miami already had their shot and Atlanta doesn't support ****.
Atlanta is actually a terrible city for pro-sports and with just a handful of exceptions, always has been.
When the Falcons started in 1966 they were a big deal. That lasted for about a decade. When the Hawks had Pistol Pete that was a big deal, and it was sort-of a big deal when they had Dominique. But if the Hawks and Falcons both disappeared from the universe right now this minute, it might take a couple of years before anyone (outside of the hardcore sports fans) in Atlanta really noticed.
Except for 73-74, when Hank Aaron was closing in on Babe Ruth's record, and 82-83 when they got hot and were the darlings of cable-TV, the Braves were an afterthought for their first 25 years in Atlanta. I admit that when they became the dominant team of the National League in the early 90s, the city did fall in love, and that lasted for a good 10-12 years or so. But the bloom is off of that rose (even though the Braves are "good" again this year). The Bravos will never have the kind of connection with this city that (for example) the Red Sox have with Boston, or the Cubs with Chicago, or the Cardinals with St. Louis.
There is a women's pro-soccer team that plays out in Kennesaw, and while that is too far away for me, I have heard from many people that the games are very exciting and a family-friendly atmosphere is enjoyable for most fans. Hopefully that team (I don't even know what they're called) will make it.
By and by, Atlanta is still a Georgia/Georgia Tech/Auburn kind of a city. General interest in the SEC and ACC hovers over all the sports coverage. The local news talks about the pro teams in season, but it doesn't have the same passion as the college teams, or even some of the high school teams either. HS football is very big in Georgia.