My son is determined to enter the United States Navy.
Ready to shove off tomorrow.
I know the recruiters cannot legally lie. But nothing is in writing.
He qualifies for all Navy jobs except nuclear engineering.
Help.
I joined the marines under the pretense that I would be an airplane mechanic. Two weeks before boot camp they told me that I would be in "hospitality management" (aka Chow Hall). I took my protest to my senator, and I eventually landed in the medical field.
They cannot legally lie to you, but they certainly don't have to give you the entire truth either.
With that said, congrats to your son. As long as he is assured of a job field prior to deployment he is in good shape.
(06-30-2010 08:47 PM)TiggerFan Wrote: [ -> ]My son is determined to enter the United States Navy.
Ready to shove off tomorrow.
I know the recruiters cannot legally lie. But nothing is in writing.
He qualifies for all Navy jobs except nuclear engineering.
Help.
I can try and help.My son qualified for Naval Nuclear Power and jumped on the opportunity. He is still at Saratoga Springs New York.
One thing I would do is ask every question in the book and have whatever field he goes into in writing. As long as he passes whatever school he goes into he will be good to go. Make sure the contract has his job title clearly stated..if it doesn't don't sigh it. Recruiters jobs are to sign recruits up and it's not easy. I can say with 100% accuracy that my son's contract was straight up joining Nuclear Power school.
My wife and I were adamant with the recruiter and that everything be in the contract. I have another son in the Marine Corp and we did the same thing. I have friends that's kids joined the service and they are not in the jobs they were promised when they signed up. I did not see the paper work..all I know is everything worked out fantastic for my kids.
What field is he looking into.
my bud joined the Marines and they told him "you'll be in a helicopter cockpit inside 6 months"
he always wanted to be a pilot...6 months later he was fixing ejector seats...in helicopter cockpits...
(06-30-2010 09:06 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]my bud joined the Marines and they told him "you'll be in a helicopter cockpit inside 6 months"
he always wanted to be a pilot...6 months later he was fixing ejector seats...in helicopter cockpits...
Did he have his degree? Sounds like they gave him a job for enlisted men.
(06-30-2010 09:53 PM)memp600 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2010 09:06 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]my bud joined the Marines and they told him "you'll be in a helicopter cockpit inside 6 months"
he always wanted to be a pilot...6 months later he was fixing ejector seats...in helicopter cockpits...
Did he have his degree? Sounds like they gave him a job for enlisted men.
no...he thought they were going to teach him to be a hilo pilot...but hey, he was in a cockpit after 6 months!
Navy Vet here. What field does he want to get into? If I was to do things over again I would've picked a Rate that would've made me an PO3 after A-School. Your son if he chose that route would serve a 6 year Active, 2 years Inactive Duty contract. As long as he doesn't get kicked out of A-School he should be fine.
Yes recruiters do alot of misleading. It happens. Like others above me, your son has to get everything in writing and a few copies. I didn't have any problems with my recruiter.
(06-30-2010 09:06 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]my bud joined the Marines and they told him "you'll be in a helicopter cockpit inside 6 months"
he always wanted to be a pilot...6 months later he was fixing ejector seats...in helicopter cockpits...
Wow. Thats a job for a Commissioned Officer. I would've reported that recruiter. Thats why people need to read the job description when they're picking a field at the Liason.
Are recruiters misleading sometimes? Yes. But for the most part they tell the truth and you get the MOS you were promised.
(06-30-2010 09:02 PM)Tiger8589 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2010 08:47 PM)TiggerFan Wrote: [ -> ]My son is determined to enter the United States Navy.
Ready to shove off tomorrow.
I know the recruiters cannot legally lie. But nothing is in writing.
He qualifies for all Navy jobs except nuclear engineering.
Help.
I can try and help.My son qualified for Naval Nuclear Power and jumped on the opportunity. He is still at Saratoga Springs New York.
One thing I would do is ask every question in the book and have whatever field he goes into in writing. As long as he passes whatever school he goes into he will be good to go. Make sure the contract has his job title clearly stated..if it doesn't don't sigh it. Recruiters jobs are to sign recruits up and it's not easy. I can say with 100% accuracy that my son's contract was straight up joining Nuclear Power school.
My wife and I were adamant with the recruiter and that everything be in the contract. I have another son in the Marine Corp and we did the same thing. I have friends that's kids joined the service and they are not in the jobs they were promised when they signed up. I did not see the paper work..all I know is everything worked out fantastic for my kids.
What field is he looking into.
He isn't quite sure what field he is interested in.
Your response is raises another question. Should I get involved before he signs? Should I follow up personally with the recruiter? Do I have the right to see the contract?
My dad was a Navy Captain, but he passed and I never really knew what was going on. My brother enlisted in the Carter / Reagan years but got out after one hitch. My son scored in the 91st percentile on the ASVAB. Sounds good, but I wonder if the test is engineered to inflate results.
I'll only say this, testing is one of the military's strengths. They can find out what your abilities are.
(06-30-2010 09:06 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]my bud joined the Marines and they told him "you'll be in a helicopter cockpit inside 6 months"
he always wanted to be a pilot...6 months later he was fixing ejector seats...in helicopter cockpits...
Sounds like your bud was stupid. Flight school is hard to get into
(07-01-2010 09:43 AM)TiggerFan Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2010 09:02 PM)Tiger8589 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-30-2010 08:47 PM)TiggerFan Wrote: [ -> ]My son is determined to enter the United States Navy.
Ready to shove off tomorrow.
I know the recruiters cannot legally lie. But nothing is in writing.
He qualifies for all Navy jobs except nuclear engineering.
Help.
I can try and help.My son qualified for Naval Nuclear Power and jumped on the opportunity. He is still at Saratoga Springs New York.
One thing I would do is ask every question in the book and have whatever field he goes into in writing. As long as he passes whatever school he goes into he will be good to go. Make sure the contract has his job title clearly stated..if it doesn't don't sigh it. Recruiters jobs are to sign recruits up and it's not easy. I can say with 100% accuracy that my son's contract was straight up joining Nuclear Power school.
My wife and I were adamant with the recruiter and that everything be in the contract. I have another son in the Marine Corp and we did the same thing. I have friends that's kids joined the service and they are not in the jobs they were promised when they signed up. I did not see the paper work..all I know is everything worked out fantastic for my kids.
What field is he looking into.
He isn't quite sure what field he is interested in.
Your response is raises another question. Should I get involved before he signs? Should I follow up personally with the recruiter? Do I have the right to see the contract?
My dad was a Navy Captain, but he passed and I never really knew what was going on. My brother enlisted in the Carter / Reagan years but got out after one hitch. My son scored in the 91st percentile on the ASVAB. Sounds good, but I wonder if the test is engineered to inflate results.
Yes, you should get involved. Ask all the questions and stay involved. I don't believe the ASVAB is engineered to inflate the results. The recruiter told us that my son qualified for any job in the Navy and that Nuclear Power School should be something to look into. We researched everything with my son and he made the decision that was what he wanted to do. The academics are challenging and that is really a major understatement.
The Navy is high tech and a great branch. All the high tech schooling goes toward college. Sounds like your son can have a bright future in the Navy if that is what he chooses to do.
Get involved with the recruiter and stay involved. My sons recruiter come to out house several times and talked with us. Read everything and make sure his job title is clearly stated in the contract and make sure his enlistment bonus is clearly stated. I believe the brightest kids get the best and most challenging jobs just like anything else.