Temple just got a verbal from Rutgers transfer Abdul Smith. Smith will have 3 years remaining and will have to sit out this year. Out of HS, Smith was rated the #44 CB in the country from Rivals, and the #30 Safety from Scout.
Smith had offers from Rutgers, Auburn, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa, Maryland, North Carolina State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia, and Wisconsin. He picked Temple over Villanova, Minnesota, ECU, and Colorado for his transfer.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/rutgers/football...mith-70706
http://temple.scout.com/a.z?s=186&p=8&c=1&nid=3430585
Akron once had a 5-star nose tackle transfer from Rutgers. He seldom showed flashes of potential, but for the most part he never amounted to anything more than a really fat guy in a football helmet.
That's... a word of caution.
Why is he transferring? Grades? Playing time? Disappointed his school didn't get taken by the Big Ten?
(06-21-2010 06:25 PM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ]That's... a word of caution.
Why is he transferring? Grades? Playing time? Disappointed his school didn't get taken by the Big Ten?
Playing time. He just fell down the depth chart a bit. Had this kid ahead of him:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/rutgers/football...IXtbX0tZB4
(06-21-2010 06:25 PM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ]That's... a word of caution.
Why is he transferring? Grades? Playing time? Disappointed his school didn't get taken by the Big Ten?
I agree.
There is no reason to get too excited about football transfers from BCS schools to the MAC especially if one is not talking about a player at a skill position.
BCS linemen will help to add some depth but a MAC school needs quality depth at every position to excel in this conference.
(06-22-2010 01:05 AM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ] (06-21-2010 06:25 PM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ]That's... a word of caution.
Why is he transferring? Grades? Playing time? Disappointed his school didn't get taken by the Big Ten?
I agree.
There is no reason to get too excited about football transfers from BCS schools to the MAC especially if one is not talking about a player at a skill position.
BCS linemen will help to add some depth but a MAC school needs quality depth at every position to excel in this conference.
There's no reason to get excited about a top 45 cornerback from last year's class? I'm sure if any MAC team signed a kid like this, this year, it would certainly be posted on the board.
If you wanna hate, hate, because pretty soon players of this quality are going to pick Temple out of high school.
(06-22-2010 07:30 AM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2010 01:05 AM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ] (06-21-2010 06:25 PM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ]That's... a word of caution.
Why is he transferring? Grades? Playing time? Disappointed his school didn't get taken by the Big Ten?
I agree.
There is no reason to get too excited about football transfers from BCS schools to the MAC especially if one is not talking about a player at a skill position.
BCS linemen will help to add some depth but a MAC school needs quality depth at every position to excel in this conference.
There's no reason to get excited about a top 45 cornerback from last year's class? I'm sure if any MAC team signed a kid like this, this year, it would certainly be posted on the board.
If you wanna hate, hate, because pretty soon players of this quality are going to pick Temple out of high school.
Ohio is bringing in a RB transfer from SoCal, playing this year.
I thought it was a pretty big deal because the running game sucked last year but we will see how much even a RB from USC makes as far as impact.
(06-22-2010 08:55 AM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2010 07:30 AM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2010 01:05 AM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ] (06-21-2010 06:25 PM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ]That's... a word of caution.
Why is he transferring? Grades? Playing time? Disappointed his school didn't get taken by the Big Ten?
I agree.
There is no reason to get too excited about football transfers from BCS schools to the MAC especially if one is not talking about a player at a skill position.
BCS linemen will help to add some depth but a MAC school needs quality depth at every position to excel in this conference.
There's no reason to get excited about a top 45 cornerback from last year's class? I'm sure if any MAC team signed a kid like this, this year, it would certainly be posted on the board.
If you wanna hate, hate, because pretty soon players of this quality are going to pick Temple out of high school.
Ohio is bringing in a RB transfer from SoCal, playing this year.
I thought it was a pretty big deal because the running game sucked last year but we will see how much even a RB from USC makes as far as impact.
Ashley is a good RB. Is he qualified? That was his issue out of HS.
It's hard not to get excited with the Smiths leading our secondary for the next few years. With Abdul now, and Brandon earlier this year:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/re...mith-54880
I stated this same theory in a thread earlier this year, I believe it was regarding that Toledo WR coming in from Univ. of Illinois who didn't sniff the field there as a 4 or 5 star WR. Typically BCS transfers are transferring because they weren't as good as advertised and are buried on the depth chart. Sometimes it is more of a character issue or academic issue, but for the most part these BCS transfers don't really amount to much. I'm not saying this kid sucks, because I don't know anything about him, but I have to say that every year there are several BCS transfers to the MAC, and a few of those were highly rated kids out of HS. However, I cannot recall a single one of those players that came in and played at a high level like a 4-5 star player "should" in the MAC. Hell one of the best I've seen is Wiggins at WMU and he's been a solid average player, but not phenomenal by any means... and he was a 5 star player out of HS who signed with the U. I believe Akron has had a fair number of highly rated transfers from BCS schools and they haven't done much. Many don't even see the field.
Maybe I'm forgetting a couple of guys who were BCS transfers who ended up being studs, maybe someone can help me out with that?
Bottom line is though, this kid could be a great addition, but history shows that the opposite is more likely.
(06-22-2010 07:30 AM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2010 01:05 AM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ] (06-21-2010 06:25 PM)uakronkid Wrote: [ -> ]That's... a word of caution.
Why is he transferring? Grades? Playing time? Disappointed his school didn't get taken by the Big Ten?
I agree.
There is no reason to get too excited about football transfers from BCS schools to the MAC especially if one is not talking about a player at a skill position.
BCS linemen will help to add some depth but a MAC school needs quality depth at every position to excel in this conference.
There's no reason to get excited about a top 45 cornerback from last year's class? I'm sure if any MAC team signed a kid like this, this year, it would certainly be posted on the board.
If you wanna hate, hate, because pretty soon players of this quality are going to pick Temple out of high school.
You mean like Toledo's: S Diauntae Morrow(#19 Safety Rivals), WR James Green(#17 WR Rivals), and WR Cordell Scott(SuperPrep All-American).
(06-21-2010 03:49 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]Temple just got a verbal from Rutgers transfer Abdul Smith. Smith will have 3 years remaining and will have to sit out this year. Out of HS, Smith was rated the #44 CB in the country from Rivals, and the #30 Safety from Scout.
Smith had offers from Rutgers, Auburn, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa, Maryland, North Carolina State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia, and Wisconsin. He picked Temple over Villanova, Minnesota, ECU, and Colorado for his transfer.
So you are saying that this highly rated player, out of HS, had 5 choices, 2 bad BCS teams, 2 non-AQ teams and a FCS team? If he was still that highly sought after I would think there would be more than those 5 offers.
(06-22-2010 09:49 AM)eich41 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe I'm forgetting a couple of guys who were BCS transfers who ended up being studs, maybe someone can help me out with that?
Bottom line is though, this kid could be a great addition, but history shows that the opposite is more likely.
It would be totally different if a MAC school at the level of where Toledo is right now in basketball added 2-3 Big Ten transfers to the roster. Big Ten basketball payers normally are a big cut above the MAC.
The difference between 3-4 star BCS guys and 2-3 star MAC guys isn't that much. If you start recruitng a team full of 3-4 stars then it does but otherwise not so much.
(06-22-2010 11:17 AM)CMUprof Wrote: [ -> ] (06-21-2010 03:49 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]Temple just got a verbal from Rutgers transfer Abdul Smith. Smith will have 3 years remaining and will have to sit out this year. Out of HS, Smith was rated the #44 CB in the country from Rivals, and the #30 Safety from Scout.
Smith had offers from Rutgers, Auburn, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa, Maryland, North Carolina State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia, and Wisconsin. He picked Temple over Villanova, Minnesota, ECU, and Colorado for his transfer.
So you are saying that this highly rated player, out of HS, had 5 choices, 2 bad BCS teams, 2 non-AQ teams and a FCS team? If he was still that highly sought after I would think there would be more than those 5 offers.
You are right, he sucks...Do you work for rivals.com or scout.com or something? You seem like an extremely talented talent scout...
Some are as good as advertised: Cobrani Mixon, the #9 LB out of HS, played at Mich. for one season, left amidst all the turmoil there to come play with his Cincy Colerain HS bud Brian Lainhart (first-team All-MAC DB) and sat out a year at Kent. He's been a dominent first team All-MAC LB and is a projected NFL draftee next year (I won't go into the silly guessing which round).
(06-22-2010 12:26 PM)templefan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2010 11:17 AM)CMUprof Wrote: [ -> ] (06-21-2010 03:49 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]Temple just got a verbal from Rutgers transfer Abdul Smith. Smith will have 3 years remaining and will have to sit out this year. Out of HS, Smith was rated the #44 CB in the country from Rivals, and the #30 Safety from Scout.
Smith had offers from Rutgers, Auburn, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa, Maryland, North Carolina State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia, and Wisconsin. He picked Temple over Villanova, Minnesota, ECU, and Colorado for his transfer.
So you are saying that this highly rated player, out of HS, had 5 choices, 2 bad BCS teams, 2 non-AQ teams and a FCS team? If he was still that highly sought after I would think there would be more than those 5 offers.
You are right, he sucks...Do you work for rivals.com or scout.com or something? You seem like an extremely talented talent scout...
Nope. Just a big drop off from the original offers that JHG listed (Auburn, PSU, Pitt, Wisc.). Did I say he sucks? Just wondering why those teams were not still after him if he lived up to his original scouting.
(06-22-2010 12:37 PM)CMUprof Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2010 12:26 PM)templefan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2010 11:17 AM)CMUprof Wrote: [ -> ] (06-21-2010 03:49 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]Temple just got a verbal from Rutgers transfer Abdul Smith. Smith will have 3 years remaining and will have to sit out this year. Out of HS, Smith was rated the #44 CB in the country from Rivals, and the #30 Safety from Scout.
Smith had offers from Rutgers, Auburn, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa, Maryland, North Carolina State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia, and Wisconsin. He picked Temple over Villanova, Minnesota, ECU, and Colorado for his transfer.
So you are saying that this highly rated player, out of HS, had 5 choices, 2 bad BCS teams, 2 non-AQ teams and a FCS team? If he was still that highly sought after I would think there would be more than those 5 offers.
You are right, he sucks...Do you work for rivals.com or scout.com or something? You seem like an extremely talented talent scout...
Nope. Just a big drop off from the original offers that JHG listed (Auburn, PSU, Pitt, Wisc.). Did I say he sucks? Just wondering why those teams were not still after him if he lived up to his original scouting.
That always happens...not many recruits have as much interest the second time around. Also, when he was originally recruited, Rutgers was his only visit so i guess a lot of those programs backed off and cut the ties.
Abdul Smith transferring
Its a krap shoot... but its as good as a two star becoming an all American.
(06-22-2010 12:34 PM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ]Some are as good as advertised: Cobrani Mixon, the #9 LB out of HS, played at Mich. for one season, left amidst all the turmoil there to come play with his Cincy Colerain HS bud Brian Lainhart (first-team All-MAC DB) and sat out a year at Kent. He's been a dominent first team All-MAC LB and is a projected NFL draftee next year (I won't go into the silly guessing which round).
But he is not outperforming CMU LB Bellore (2-time 1st team all-MAC defense) who was only a 2-star recruit and is now listed as the #11 non-AQ player in the country:
Top non-AQ players
Yes I know, it's Graham Watson's opinion. They are both solid at LB but Mixon is not any better than Bellore.
And yes, Pierce is right there at #10 for all you Temple fans.
(06-22-2010 12:54 PM)CMUprof Wrote: [ -> ] (06-22-2010 12:34 PM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ]Some are as good as advertised: Cobrani Mixon, the #9 LB out of HS, played at Mich. for one season, left amidst all the turmoil there to come play with his Cincy Colerain HS bud Brian Lainhart (first-team All-MAC DB) and sat out a year at Kent. He's been a dominent first team All-MAC LB and is a projected NFL draftee next year (I won't go into the silly guessing which round).
But he is not outperforming CMU LB Bellore (2-time 1st team all-MAC defense) who was only a 2-star recruit and is now listed as the #11 non-AQ player in the country:
Top non-AQ players
Yes I know, it's Graham Watson's opinion. They are both solid at LB but Mixon is not any better than Bellore.
And yes, Pierce is right there at #10 for all you Temple fans.
I'm not sure what that has to do with the discussion of highly ranked HS players who transferred to MAC schools. Was Bellore a highly touted transfer? Someone made the point:
Quote:However, I cannot recall a single one of those players that came in and played at a high level like a 4-5 star player "should" in the MAC.
and my response was to counter that idea. I wasn't saying there aren't other good players in the MAC. Mixon is our best defensive player and this one blogger has already listed his buddy Lainhart #17. I'd be surprised if Mixon is not in the top 10, whatever that means.