CSNbbs

enough of all these bloggers or little sports sites, even ESPN... who really knows what is going to happen with the realignment, it is anyone's guess, so it might as well be you making the prediction. How do you think the realignment is going to go, how many teams per conference, what conferences are left, and who is in them? It is your turn to rewrite the FBS...

note: It could just be YOUR ideal fantasy situation for your school as well... just make it known.

GO!

The only way to get it right is to know three things.
1. Will Notre Dame accept?
2. Will the Pac-10 pull the trigger on expansion?
3. Will the ACC respond by growing larger.

I feel pretty confident if the answer to #1 is no, that the SEC won't respond.
If the answer to #2 is no, the MWC and Big XII live to fight another day.
If the answer to #3 is no, the Big East lives to fight another day.

Any of those change to yes and it gets wild.

Chance of this happening is slim-to-none...

But...

Big X raids Big East and gets it's new teams. With the BE as a basketball superpower, it does everything to stay a float in the BCS world of football. They grab Memphis, ECU and then take the remaining florida market adding UCF, FAU & FIU to go along with USF and the others remaining (the whole central & south fl TV market... that is BIG!) The in-state florida rivalries would be great. And then I don't really care what happens with the west teams.


GO OWLS!

File this under the Dream scenario:

Big South

UF
FSU
UM
UCF
USF
FAU
FIU
UG
GTech
Troy/MTSU

Easy Travel, Established Rivalrys, Easy Sellouts.

Enough top teams to get national recoginize, enough middle of the roads to be respectable.

It will NEVER happen but that would be some great football and Baseball.

Not sure how good a Basketball confrence this would be. (Not my area of expertise)

Post from another board. I could live with this.

East
UAB
USM
Troy
Tulane
MTSU
WKU

West
Ark State
SMU
UNT
Tech
Tulsa
Rice

(05-11-2010 08:17 AM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]The only way to get it right is to know three things.
1. Will Notre Dame accept?
2. Will the Pac-10 pull the trigger on expansion?
3. Will the ACC respond by growing larger.

I feel pretty confident if the answer to #1 is no, that the SEC won't respond.
If the answer to #2 is no, the MWC and Big XII live to fight another day.
If the answer to #3 is no, the Big East lives to fight another day.

Any of those change to yes and it gets wild.

So if ND says 'no' the SEC is free and clear? I don't think so.

As I stated before, Fox Sports is trying to corner the College football market. And what better way than to create a 'spine' of associated universities from NY/NJ (i.e. B10 expansion east) all the way to California through B10/PAC10 agreements.

Picture the B10 adding N, Mizzou and Rutgers and the P10 adding U and CU. We already know that the P10 and B10 are best buds and surely would work together on some type of National t.v. deal once Fox presents it. You now have a network of universities which stretch form coast to coast. Imagine how limiting ABC/ESPN's regional games now look. FOX can sell NATIONAL ADVERTISING $$$ for their Saturday night game between say Michigan and USC, or Ohio St. and Oregon. What about Rutgers v. Stanford? or Cal v. Penn St.? It would be huge.

How does the SEC answer that one. First they go get Texas and TAMU and match their own gargantuan match-up such as Florida v. Texas....but you quickly begin to see the limitation of 'huge' regional match-ups $$ versus 'huge' national match-ups $$$$.

I think ND remains indy because they have their own mini-National match-up every Saturday. But for Mizzou, N and Rutgers to join the B10 is a natural and then a joint agreement with the P10/12 and all of a sudden you've 'cornered the market'.

(05-11-2010 09:52 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote: [ -> ]Post from another board. I could live with this.

East
UAB
USM
Troy
Tulane
MTSU
WKU

West
Ark State
SMU
UNT
Tech
Tulsa
Rice

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Dream on, li'l broomstick cowboys.

(05-11-2010 08:17 AM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]The only way to get it right is to know three things.
1. Will Notre Dame accept?
2. Will the Pac-10 pull the trigger on expansion?
3. Will the ACC respond by growing larger.

I feel pretty confident if the answer to #1 is no, that the SEC won't respond.
If the answer to #2 is no, the MWC and Big XII live to fight another day.
If the answer to #3 is no, the Big East lives to fight another day.

Any of those change to yes and it gets wild.

For some reason, I still do not see ND joining the Big 10. To me it is the best choice - joining the Big 10. Reason being, in football they are not going to get a lot of the big recruits because the other conference schools can still out sell ND on the recruiting trail with that carrot of winning a conference title. Being in a new look Big 10 will give ND those strategic matchups it desires (Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, Penn State, Michigan State), still allow ND to play Army, Navy, and USC if they desire and allow ND to play for a conference title. On top of that, ND will make even more money than it is now.

In any event, should the Big 10 make a move on expansion, regardless of what ND decides to do, I beleive the Pac 10 will make a move to 12 teams. the Pac 10 must get into the money hunt with all of the other conferences, if it wants to remain elite. The Pac 10 cannot afford to sit back and allow the other power conferences to move to 12 or more teams.

As for the ACC, it has not been able to get its new look going, from an economic standpoint. Why? I have no idea. Maybe it is a marketing and branding thing, which is weird when you have Duke, UNC, FSU, Miami, etc. In any event, if the Big 10 and the Pac 10 decide to make a move, the ACC will almost be forced to make a move or else take the chance of becoming a way distant fourth on the college athletic's chart of monetary power players (1. Big 10, 2. SEC, 3. PAC 10 and 4. ACC). That being the case, the best move for the ACC would be to add two programs that would not only increase the talent pool in football but also make the leage the premier college basketball league. Those two programs would be UConn and West Vriginia.

That would then leave the Big East torn to pieces, and ready to die like it has been in football for a while. All that will remain are Pitt, Cinn, USF and Louisville. What will happen with these schools? I believe they would merge CUSA into the Big East, making a 16 team league. Will the Big East be capable of keeping its automoatic BCS bid with these programs?

What needs to be determined is who does the PAC 10 take. I agree that their choices will be Colorado and Utah, making them a 12 team league.

The Big 12 will now have to replace Nebraska, Missouri, and Colorado. However, with the losses of three decent institutions, does Texas and Oklahoma decide to stay in the conference? The only place for them to go is to the SEC, if the SEC takes them. Will the SEC make a move after all of the movement that has taken place? From a money standpoint, it is possible. The only way I see them moving is if they can land Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma and, as many have suggested, Oklahoma State (although I feel addiding Kansas would be better because they can at least get some of that Kansas City market with Kansas). Should that happen, either way it happens, the Big XII would be in shambles.

The Big XII would not die. I believe we would see what is left of the Big XII (5 institutions) work to add Boise and Nevada from the WAC and TCU, BYU, Air Force, Wyoming and New Mexico from the MWC. Lastly, the WAC and MWC will merge its remaining members.

Unchanged will be the Sun Belt Conference and the MAC (Villanova will not risk allowing Temple to move into the Big East and become a dominant power in the Philadelphia area), as well as the independents.

All of this would be an absolute bite on those FCS programs looking to move up. There will be room in the SBC, should it be in a position to move to 12 programs.

Last time I checked, there is a network that shows at least one and sometimes two SEC games over-the-air coast-to-coast.

Notre Dame is the only one who can match the SEC for exposure but the SEC also has at least one ESPN/ESPN2 national broadcast per week (usually more) and they round off their package with an over-the-air regional broadcast in the morning.

While Fox made a run at the SEC, they were out-bid and run out of the market early by a little outfit called Comcast who tried to do a Big 10 style network with the SEC. They ended up tagging along with ESPN on the deal getting some SEC content for their cable nets.

If the SEC WANTS to expand, they will, but it will be subject to the renegotiation rights of CBS/ESPN for the next 14 years.

Short of Texas, who they cannot get, there is no one the Pac-10 can add that will raise their television revenue to the SEC level. It cannot be done. The Pac-10 has some nice TV markets but it is a very soft college athletics market, much like the Northeastern United States. LA may have 3.3 million more TV sets than Atlanta but I'll wager the number of TV's tuned to college football on Saturday morning or Thursday night in Atlanta is greater. If half of Atlanta is tuned to the Georgia game and 20% of LA is tuned to the USC game, more people are watching Georgia play.

It's going to be interesting to see how this shakes out. Fox is a renagade that will upset the apple-cart if given the chance. I think that's what they're setting up to do.

Looking strategically at college football, setting up some kind of national affiliation between cherry-picked conferences is making more and more sense. And with the SEC 'locked-in', where would you look next?

(05-11-2010 10:04 AM)JoeJag Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2010 09:52 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote: [ -> ]Post from another board. I could live with this.

East
UAB
USM
Troy
Tulane
MTSU
WKU

West
Ark State
SMU
UNT
Tech
Tulsa
Rice

_________________________________________________

Dream on, li'l broomstick cowboys.

Oh gee, smack talk from a newbie, wannabe.

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(05-11-2010 11:15 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2010 10:04 AM)JoeJag Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2010 09:52 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote: [ -> ]Post from another board. I could live with this.

East
UAB
USM
Troy
Tulane
MTSU
WKU

West
Ark State
SMU
UNT
Tech
Tulsa
Rice

_________________________________________________

Dream on, li'l broomstick cowboys.

Oh gee, smack talk from a newbie, wannabe.

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I believe we're all dreaming to speculate at this juncture. I am by no means a "newbie". I have been around a very long time. I lost my previous password and had to re-register under another moniker.

(05-11-2010 12:33 PM)JoeJag Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2010 11:15 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2010 10:04 AM)JoeJag Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2010 09:52 AM)MeanGreen61 Wrote: [ -> ]Post from another board. I could live with this.

East
UAB
USM
Troy
Tulane
MTSU
WKU

West
Ark State
SMU
UNT
Tech
Tulsa
Rice

_________________________________________________

Dream on, li'l broomstick cowboys.

Oh gee, smack talk from a newbie, wannabe.

________________________________________-
I believe we're all dreaming to speculate at this juncture. I am by no means a "newbie". I have been around a very long time. I lost my previous password and had to re-register under another moniker.

You could be Methuselah, but the Jags are newbie, wannabes still using training wheels in the world of football. So I liked what someone posted on another board, so what ? Not dreaming at all, just agreeing with someone.

Oh, I see what you mean. I'm not Methuselah anymore than you're Abraham, but thanks. Yes, I agree with you. South Alabama are "newbies" in the world of college football. We haven't even gotten our feet wet yet, but are very much looking forward to easying up the ladder. Plans are that the Jaguars will transition to the FCS in 2011 and then by 2013 to FBS. This year we'll be playing some FCS teams mingled with a few D-II and D-III teams. Hopefully in 2011 we will get to play a few SBC teams. Our coaches have been busy recruiting some players who will contribute. We know we'll be hitting a lot of bumps and lumps along the way, but that's to be expected.

Another scenario involving a couple of Belt teams posted by an East Carolina fan.

My FINAL C-USA Projection after this realignment

West

SMU
NMSU
NMU
Air Force
UTEP
TCU
North Texas

East

UAB
USM
Tulane
La Tech
Troy
UH
Rice

Gains

-60% of Texas teams which should help C-USA to get some emdia coverage in texas
- Potential Troy/UAB, Tulane/La Tech, and NMSU/NMU rivalries
- Best MWC, WAC, and SBC schools that fits well with us

Keeps

UH/Rice rival in same division

Loses

All Texas teams together in same division
FB powers ECU and UCF
BB power Memphis
potential power Marshal