Bassett leaving Ohio should help huskie bball next year.
(05-05-2010 07:53 PM)niutwo Wrote: [ -> ]Bassett leaving Ohio should help huskie bball next year.
WHAT?
We are so low it is meaningless what other teams are doing. We do not COMPETE against anyone. Lets just worry about ourselves and getting better. Hopefully the guys coming in can make a difference/
I bet it matters to all of the other mac teams. As bad as we were we beat every mac west team. I bet it matters to Niu ftball that Cmu lost LaFevour. Of course getting better yourself is your main focus.
(05-05-2010 09:22 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2010 07:53 PM)niutwo Wrote: [ -> ]Bassett leaving Ohio should help huskie bball next year.
WHAT?
We are so low it is meaningless what other teams are doing. We do not COMPETE against anyone. Lets just worry about ourselves and getting better. Hopefully the guys coming in can make a difference/
How could that not be significant when early on it looks like Ohio/NIU are the teams to beat? Any loss for the Bobcasts could have some big ramifications.
(05-07-2010 01:04 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2010 09:22 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2010 07:53 PM)niutwo Wrote: [ -> ]Bassett leaving Ohio should help huskie bball next year.
WHAT?
We are so low it is meaningless what other teams are doing. We do not COMPETE against anyone. Lets just worry about ourselves and getting better. Hopefully the guys coming in can make a difference/
How could that not be significant when early on it looks like Ohio/NIU are the teams to beat? Any loss for the Bobcasts could have some big ramifications.
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How can you even mention NIU as a team to beat?
I love reading your posts, they actually do keep getting dumber everytime you write.
Atleast you make me laugh with your idiotic statements.
(05-07-2010 01:39 PM)HuskieRak Wrote: [ -> ] (05-07-2010 01:04 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2010 09:22 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2010 07:53 PM)niutwo Wrote: [ -> ]Bassett leaving Ohio should help huskie bball next year.
WHAT?
We are so low it is meaningless what other teams are doing. We do not COMPETE against anyone. Lets just worry about ourselves and getting better. Hopefully the guys coming in can make a difference/
How could that not be significant when early on it looks like Ohio/NIU are the teams to beat? Any loss for the Bobcasts could have some big ramifications.
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How can you even mention NIU as a team to beat?
I love reading your posts, they actually do keep getting dumber everytime you write.
Atleast you make me laugh with your idiotic statements.
Because the MAC will be god awful next year for basketball.
(05-07-2010 01:58 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ]Because the MAC will be god awful next year for basketball.
How does that justify your statement that NIU will be a team to beat? Every single team in the MAC is a "team to beat" because the conference is ****? Jesus you are dumb.
Maybe the poster meant that every team in the MAC will be beaten badly.
"Teams to beat on." Like that.
Two things:
- The MAC will be better next year.
- It is very possible Ohio is a better team without Bassett. I know he was awesome for two weeks in March, but if he's not on fire, he dragged the team down.
Only two players on the first or second team all mac return. I dont believe the league will be better next year.
The talent coming back will be better than last year's in addition to some excellent recruiting classes.
Conyers, Pierce, Hayes, Kool, Singletary, Bitzer, Harmon, Medlock, Betts, C.mcKnight, Dobbins, Simpson, Evans, Henry-Ala, Anderson and Bassett these are the best players in the mac and all are gone! There will not be more talent next year. The recruiting could or could not be good.
Medlock was vastly overrated. Jordan Bitzer? You're going to hang your hat on that? One good year of Jimmy Conyers? Pierce was meh this year. Hayes was 2 forced to play a 1.
They were the "best" (not really) in the MAC last season. Akron is still loaded. Ohio returns one of the nation's best PG and the #2 three-point shooter in the country. CMU loses Harmon, but they bring in an awesome class. Miami is adding Harris and Sewell. Kent has Eric Gaines coming. I hear NIU has a decent player arriving*. There's a lot to be excited about in the MAC.
*I'm being playful here; I know who Tony is.
Our basketball team sucks until they don't. They have not shown ANYTHING in the longest time. This better be the year they break .500, make a run in the MAC tourney and beat a couple of good teams. Good is not defined as a top 20 or top 50 team, but top 100. That is what should be considered an average year and not a celebration that we don't suck or that we don;t suck as much as the rest of the suckee MAC bb.
(05-08-2010 08:08 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]Our basketball team sucks until they don't. They have not shown ANYTHING in the longest time. This better be the year they break .500, make a run in the MAC tourney and beat a couple of good teams. Good is not defined as a top 20 or top 50 team, but top 100. That is what should be considered an average year and not a celebration that we don't suck or that we don;t suck as much as the rest of the suckee MAC bb.
That is real convenient to say we suck till we dont, but at some point you have to look objectively at rosters and evaluate talent. The MAC is going to be down next year, no doubt about that. NIU is as deep or deeper talent wise as any other team in the MAC outside of Ohio. You can say we suck but not relative to the MAC right now.
On paper the talent that Patton can draw upon may look deeper or better than other MAC programs but until it actually produces improvement over what has taken place the last several years; NIU hoops will continue to be irrelevant both in the conference and on the local college scene.
(05-09-2010 08:38 AM)onlinepole Wrote: [ -> ]On paper the talent that Patton can draw upon may look deeper or better than other MAC programs but until it actually produces improvement over what has taken place the last several years; NIU hoops will continue to be irrelevant both in the conference and on the local college scene.
You can say that about the past, but in no way is there anyway to believe based on paper with NIU and the rest of the MAC that will continue to be the case. Projecting into the future based on past performance is not a good idea, many of the players will be different. For example, the struggles of Jake Anderson on the court last year I have hard time believing will have an effect on Jones or Rucker this year. How would poor play last year play into the mind of a new team with some players that were not even there to experience it? That is something I do not understand how it would work.
(05-09-2010 02:15 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ]You can say that about the past, but in no way is there anyway to believe based on paper with NIU and the rest of the MAC that will continue to be the case. Projecting into the future based on past performance is not a good idea, many of the players will be different. For example, the struggles of Jake Anderson on the court last year I have hard time believing will have an effect on Jones or Rucker this year. How would poor play last year play into the mind of a new team with some players that were not even there to experience it? That is something I do not understand how it would work.
Because NIU is going to rely on a) guys who were on the team last year and b) other guys who have never played a meaningful minute of Division I college basketball. When you're relying on a group of guys that lost 20 games (again), and another group that may or may not turn out to be any good, it's hard to conclude that they're going to actually make significant improvement until they do it. NIU doesn't have a ton of talent, and there is also going to be reliance on the newcomers for the depth you keep talking about. That's usually not a good combination.
I think people are to the point that they need to see NIU prove it has the talent and depth to compete in the MAC by actually winning games. I think that's a reasonable stance to take at this point. Nothing NIU has done in the past 4 years indicates that they have a significant amount of talent or that the coaching staff has the ability to take advantage of what talent they do have.
It's fine if you don't want to base your opinion on what's happened in the past, but it's also foolish to ignore it. The past does have some bearing on the future when some of the players, and the coaching staff, are the same. And, even if you do ignore it completely, I don't see all this talent you claim exists. Losing 20 games for 4 consecutive years doesn't just happen and it's not bad luck; it's bad teams, bad coaching, and a lack of talent.
MD, this the same crap you posted last year. "The MAC lost a lot of talent, by default with the talent we have we should be best,..." Until NIU proves it can win consistently, you need to keep a low profile. You look like a fool with all these predictions. Patton hasn't proved he can coach, Silas hasn't proved he can play within the team, and no one else has proved that they can be counted on consistently. How can anyone that doesn't have blinders on predict them to win. No one is going to believe them are for real until they prove them wrong. Except you of course.
(05-09-2010 02:15 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote: [ -> ]For example, the struggles of Jake Anderson on the court last year I have hard time believing will have an effect on Jones or Rucker this year.
You're a moron if you think that Jones and Rucker, players that you have never even seen play, are going to take NIU to the MACC. Other MAC teams had better recruiting classes than NIU and are returning squads that actually won games.
What do you know about Jones and Rucker MD? Have you ever seen either one of them play in person? How much video have you seen of them?
I know I know, Rucker is going to be unbelievable because he can dunk and Jones is supposed to be a solid pg, who transferred 4 times in high school, and is staying back home to workout instead of joining the team.