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The recent history of the basketball program at East Tennessee State University is definitely tied to its building. Originally named the Memorial Center (but not in memory of anyone in particular), it was recently renamed ETSU/Mountain States Health Alliance Athletic Center. We don't really call it that. Everyone still uses the old unofficial nickname, the Mini-Dome.

Modeled after a similar facility at the Idaho State University, the Mini-Dome was built in the mid-1970s. Construction went too long and too far over budget. Local journalists said that ETSU tried to cut corners by building one facility for both football and basketball, and ended up with one that was fit for neither. In many ways, they were right.

For football, the stands are too high and too close to the field; only those in the front row can see the near sideline. The Mini-Dome also features a first class full-size indoor track, but the finish line is located on the far side from the grandstands, and people can't even see the backstretch from there.

The original basketball court was a rubberized surface, located in the center of the football field. There was room for a few low bleachers around the court in the football grandstands, with most of the fans far away from the action. This was eventually fixed when ETSU bought a wooden court that could be taken apart in sections and moved around. The court was pulled over to the west side grandstand, with seats extending the grandstand down to the floor level. Then, that arrangement was spun around 180 degrees after a visit from a state fire marshal several years ago. The east side, with floor level exits and large exterior ramps up to the concourse level, has more fire exits than the west. The overall capacity of the Mini-Dome was also reduced.

When the facility was built, the administration decided it was time to move into a higher athletic conference. The Buccaneers transitioned from the Ohio Valley Conference (then Division II) to the D-I Southern Conference. The change in division became moot as Division I-AA was created, including both conferences, the same year ETSU completed the move.

Back when I was a student at East Tennessee State in the late Eighties and early Nineties, we had the best basketball program in the state. The Buccaneers had unprecedented success for a Southern Conference school.

Prior to the start of the 1990-91 season, ETSU had just lost head coach Les Robisnon, who left for his alma mater North Carolina State. Assistant coach Alan LeForce was promoted to the top position just a few days later. The senior class included point guard Keith "Mister" Jennings and center Greg Dennis, supported by shooting guards Alvin West and Major Geer. Juniors included athletic forwards Calvin Talford and Marty Street. Great things were expected from this team, which had won the SoCon tournament but lost in the first round of the NCAA tournament the past two years. This, we felt, would be the year.

The campaign started in the NIT Preseason Tournament, with the Bucs winning at Brigham Young -- followed by a close loss at Arizona. Soon thereafter, Dennis broke his foot in practice, and was out for the season. The tall, slender center with great ball skills ended up taking a medical red shirt. With Dennis gone, hopes for the season were lost.

Something amazing happened, though - the Buccaneers kept on winning. The team, under new coach LeForce, had added an improved defense to their strong offense. There were wins against George Mason, at Cincinnati, versus N.C. State at home, at James Madison. Then into the first five games of the Southern Conference schedule, ETSU went on a 13 game win streak. ETSU went from the "others receiving votes" section of the AP Poll to the poll proper in December. The streak ended with a loss at UT-Chattanooga, and ETSU took a slight drop.

But another run of seven wins, including a non-conference overtime win at Memphis State, led to the No. 10 ranking in February. The Bucs finished out the season with two more road losses in the conference and a No. 17 AP ranking, and then three-peated at the SoCon tournament.

Junior forward Calvin Talford injured his knee during the conference tourney, and was hobbled for the NCAA tournament appearance: a loss to Iowa. (He did win the slam dunk competition at the NCAA Final Four a few weeks later, though.) Mister Jennings led the NCAA that season the three point percentage. He also won the Frances Pomeroy Naismith Award for the outstanding collegiate senior under six feet tall, and went on to play in the NBA.

The following season, the miracles didn't repeat. Greg Dennis was back, but the team didn't win the early non-conference road games the way they had during the previous season. They did repeat as regular season and tournament champions in the Southern Conference, and earned a No. 14 seed in the NCAA Tournament. They were drawn against Arizona, whom they had played the year before. In their fourth consecutive appearance in the NCAA Tournament, they won the opening round game in an upset. Two days later, they lost to the famous Michigan "Fab Five" team that went on to the 1992 championship game.

And then the run of success ended. The team embarked on a series of "rebuilding" years, but as often happens with mid-major programs, there was no return to the NCAA Tournament for many years. Alan LeForce stepped down and was replaced by Ed DeChellis in 1996. Seven seasons later in 2003, ETSU once again won the SoCon tournament, lost in the first round to Wake Forest, and then DeChellis was hired away by Penn State, where he had been an assistant. Murray Bartow was hired as the replacement, ETSU repeated as SoCon Tournament champions in 2004, and lost another opening round game (this time to Cincinnati). With the graduation of Tim Smith and Zakee Wadood, another run of NCAA appearances was over.

As the basketball program was experiencing some success, with good attendance and support from the community, the struggling football program received a mercy killing. Home game attendance was terrible, with the bad sight lines in the Mini-Dome and a sterile atmosphere from too few fans in too large of a building. The bigger problem, however, was that East Tennessee was Big Orange Country. There was far more support for a SEC football team 100 miles east in Knoxville than for the home town Buccaneers. Tennessee's relatively weak men's basketball program allowed ETSU's basketball team some room for support. But it was death for Buccaneer football.

With the state of Tennessee changing rules on the state schools spending taxpayer funds on athletics (and the Astroturf up for replacement with a million dollar price tag), the program was cut. The news leaked out in March 2003, and that fall's football season was the end of things. The basketball Bucs were stuck in the middle, because ETSU had joined the Southern Conference agreeing to field a football team -- now the school would fail to meet that condition.

At a conference meeting in 2004, a vote of the member schools was held, to see if ETSU could continue their membership, joining the three other non-football schools in the SoCon. At that vote, the Southern Conference moved to kick out ETSU, the league's defending basketball champions. ETSU's president tried to placate the local fans, saying that the school would use the money saved from ending the money-losing football team would go towards improving the other intercollegiate sports. The Bucs were allowed one final season in the SoCon, to give them time to find a new conference home.

The Atlantic Sun has not been entirely popular with local fans. Some, like the crowd at the NCAABBS message board, remain sore at everyone and anything involved with the removal of football and the conference change, and shoot down anyone that dare oppose that point of view. But a April 2007 student body referendum on a new fee to fund football was voted down -- that just added more fuel to the fire. Others continue to support basketball and other sports, but simply wish ETSU would bring football back. But the fact is that there is still a lot more orange in the area than blue and gold.

Local fans were concerned that the Atlantic Sun was a weaker conference. It took four tries, but the basketball team finally won the conference tournament last year, taking some pressure off Coach Bartow, who'd led the team to three disappointing finishes. The women's basketball team has won two in a row, which is far better than they ever did in the SoCon. Three years ago the A-Sun instituted a combined women and men's all sport trophy; ETSU has won all three years. Adding annual Nashville and Jacksonville trips in many sports -- areas with strong alumni populations -- has been a positive change.

I think ETSU has helped the Atlantic Sun, also known as "the suitcase conference" of the southeast. Membership has been in constant flux this decade, and adding an established program (as opposed to yet another Division II transitional school) has been good for the circuit. The availability of the Mini-Dome led to the conference adding indoor track and field as a sport, with ETSU hosting the meets.

When they joined, the Buccaneers committed to five years of A-Sun membership, and those five years are up at the end of this season. Now ETSU faces the decision whether to stay in the A-Sun or try to find a new home. Representatives of the Ohio Valley have visited the campus, where ETSU could join four other Tennessee state schools. But there hasn't been recent news about a conference switch.

The team lost a rising sophomore post player, Seth Coy, to an automobile accident last summer. Senior leader Mike Smith, a preseason All-A-Sun pick, has been injured for most of the season and is headed for a redshirt. In spite of the missing players, the team has exceeded expectations and remains in a five-team race for the regular season A-Sun championship.

But still, the only path back to the NCAA Tournament -- and another shot at an upset victory -- is to win the conference tournament. The future of the basketball program after this summer, though, remains unclear.
Not sure what the point of article was but they messed up a few things.

Good old Marty Street....(Unless he was talking about the guy who coached at UH and later at Jefferson County
and Crockett but pretty sure he played ball at Millgan, lol)

Actually Fields graduated with Wadood, Smith hung around a couple of more years...

ETSU actually left BEFORE the vote they didn't actually get kicked out, facing saving move true
but factual.

Rambling article that missed a few facts, seemed to have no point or message.
Can I have my 2 minutes back for reading that?

No offense to whoever wrote it but I don't see reason for it. Here is a brief and mostly correct
history of ETSU last 30 years.. Okay thanks I guess.
I would add this.. ETSU left the OVC for the SoCon because of Football..
As the writer notes this was a wash because both leagues became IAA..
OVC basketball was much better than the SoCon at that time..
The OVC in basketball was Div 1.. The guys from 1968 that were honored at the game on Sunday won the OVC championship..went to the NCAA tourney.. beat Fl State to get to the sweet 16 and then lost to Ohio State.. not D2........
Lots of fans were pissed about the switch from the OVC to the SoCon..
we just didn't have the internet to express our grief!!!!!!!!
It took years to establish new rivalries like the ones we had with Western Ky Murray State, Middle Tn.. Tenn Tech, etc.. We knew very little about several of the SoCon schools, and had to learn to hate them over the years we competed against them..
There really is no point. As far as I know, people who contribute to Mid Majority just give background on their favorite team.
Here is another point he missed. Talford didn't win the Slam Dunk Competition in 1991 (the year they played Iowa) he won it the following year in 1992, the year they beat Arizona.

Quote:Junior forward Calvin Talford injured his knee during the conference tourney, and was hobbled for the NCAA tournament appearance: a loss to Iowa. (He did win the slam dunk competition at the NCAA Final Four a few weeks later, though.)
(02-23-2010 06:40 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]There really is no point. As far as I know, people who contribute to Mid Majority just give background on their favorite team.

Actually, that's not quite true. The guy who writes the mid-majority is a free lance writer who raises his own support and attends over 100 mid-major basketball games a year. He had a brief gig covering mid-majors for ESPN before they cut him for budget reasons. He's probably one of the more knowledgeable voices nationally regarding the mid-major level. He knows the ASun pretty well actually (references to Belmont's band, Jacksonville's cheerleaders, and other little tidbits about the conference in past posts). He usually does a mid-major game of the night, names a mid-major player of the week, names a mid-major All-American team, and does a great job giving some in depth coverage to the unique traditions, rivalries, and culture that make up mid-major basketball. He is also one of the guys behind bbstate.com which is a ridiculous database of college basketball statistics.

However, right now he has a paying gig covering the Olympics so he is in Vancouver right now. In his absence he is allowing readers of the blog to basically say why they're school is great. It's a nice idea, but unfortunately I would have to say that the ETSU write-up was not the best I've read in the series.
Well I'm glad someone's paying attention. I knew Kyle Whelston(sp) runs the site and travels around every night to a game because I follow him on twitter. Pretty interesting actually....
Question on our A-Sun membership time frame. I believe our membership contract is through next summer sometime, does anyone think we will try to move? We don't have many options without football, but would we consider a move to the OVC? I know at one time Belmont, D.Lipscomb, and ETSU were all being mentioned. I fear is the athletic department will just sign another 6-7 year contract with the A-Sun and tell the public after the fact. I really hope they are looking elsewhere. Anybody have any updated info?
(02-24-2010 03:11 PM)bucs77 Wrote: [ -> ]I fear is the athletic department will just sign another 6-7 year contract with the A-Sun and tell the public after the fact.

I fear they will do the same thing. They don't care.

The Sun Belt is still an option with UNO leaving. I haven't heard any reports of them getting a replacement for them yet.
ETSU should be doing everything possible behind the scenes...or maybe even a public campaign to get in the sun belt. I bet they're doing nothing.
If the University was being managed correctly then of course they would be working out the details of 1AA football right now and a move to another conference. I wish they were but who knows? They may be sittiing around telling each other how lucky we are to be in the A-Sun. Sigh.....
I think the athletic director or the school president ought to come on line once a month for an hour to answer questions. I hope they realize the rage that is out there in Buccaneer land. How many times does ETSU have a news conference? Help! I would feel better if I knew answers to so many questions. Mullins discontinued his column on the etsubucs website. We need to be communicated with!

P.S.: I agree with Goldfinger... we should be in the Sun Belt renewing our rivalry with Western Kentucky. The greatest game I ever saw was our 3 OT victory with 10-thousand in the Dome against Western that captured the regular season OVC championship. It was a moment! That was a high! Some people take drugs for that kind of feeling.
I hope ETSU is at least making an attempt to get into the Sun Belt, to show us that they really do care. I mean I know it's a football conference but UNO does not have a football team and neither does Denver so it's worth a shot. I figure we would probably have support from MTSU and Western Kentucky too, but I agree with Goldfinger, they probably aren't doing a damn thing, and that's what makes me mad.
It could be that Mullins and company would rather be a big fish in a small pond than go to the Sun Belt.
(02-25-2010 12:09 PM)Goldfinger Wrote: [ -> ]It could be that Mullins and company would rather be a big fish in a small pond than go to the Sun Belt.

That is sadly a very true statement.
Now would this be a worthy cause to flood them with calls, emails, and letters on our thoughts for the future?
(02-25-2010 11:43 AM)Bucster Wrote: [ -> ]I hope ETSU is at least making an attempt to get into the Sun Belt, to show us that they really do care. I mean I know it's a football conference but UNO does not have a football team and neither does Denver so it's worth a shot. I figure we would probably have support from MTSU and Western Kentucky too, but I agree with Goldfinger, they probably aren't doing a damn thing, and that's what makes me mad.

Bucster... I've been thinking this for years...even when we were in the Southern. By getting in the Sun Belt...we take off past Appy and the entire ASun-Southern Conference crowd.

I was a sportscaster in Bowling Green during OVC to Sun Belt transition. I don't think they regret it. That said...I wonder what the bottom line is...do they share all revenues evenly from television? Where we are now, TV revenue has to be almost nonexistent...nothing to share.

Please, please ETSU...let's do all we can to get in the Sun Belt and give our school a boost that would be historical! Celebrate the centennial with MTSU by getting in the same league as they are!
Buc2002 would know if any effort is being made. Do you have any information 2002?
While I see people mention potential rivalries with Western Ky and MTSU, I would be curious to know the reason people feel ETSU needs to be in the Sun Belt Conference. It is rated well below the Southern in basketball, and the travel would be even far worse than it currently is in the A-Sun , which was one of the points of criticism by many on here when we joined the A-Sun. Also a move to the Sun Belt would not guarantee a return of football, something is defiantly not on the radar of the current administration.
(02-25-2010 03:21 PM)Just A Fan Wrote: [ -> ]While I see people mention potential rivalries with Western Ky and MTSU, I would be curious to know the reason people feel ETSU needs to be in the Sun Belt Conference. It is rated well below the Southern in basketball, and the travel would be even far worse than it currently is in the A-Sun , which was one of the points of criticism by many on here when we joined the A-Sun. Also a move to the Sun Belt would not guarantee a return of football, something is defiantly not on the radar of the current administration.

I disagree. This year the Sun Belt is a little down, but it you look back the pas t 5-6 years the Sun Belt's RPI is higher. From top to bottom it is a stronger league, it would be a move up for us.
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