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record and Western isn't one of them. I would love for ASU to cinch the automatic bid to the NIT. Actually, if we don't win it all, which I don't think is possible anyway, I'll be rooting for the Wed Woofs. Let's get someone except Western, USA, North Texas, or Middle in the tournament. At least if North Texas won, it would be a team from the West Division. I'm tired of the East getting all the glory.

"Good luck the rest of the way. Unless of course, when you play the Trojans."

Great rivalry.

(02-19-2010 01:00 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]"Good luck the rest of the way. Unless of course, when you play the Trojans."

Great rivalry.

We're tied with UNO? Let me see. Who is it that's dropping down to DIII?

Actually, they currently own the tie-breaker. So I guess we're not really tied.

(02-19-2010 01:04 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, they currently own the tie-breaker. So I guess we're not really tied.

But we're still playing for seeding.

Seeding is good.

(02-19-2010 12:56 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]record and Western isn't one of them. I would love for ASU to cinch the automatic bid to the NIT. Actually, if we don't win it all, which I don't think is possible anyway, I'll be rooting for the Wed Woofs. Let's get someone except Western, USA, North Texas, or Middle in the tournament. At least if North Texas won, it would be a team from the West Division. I'm tired of the East getting all the glory.

What's wrong with us? I know we made the tournament in 2007, but that was only our 2nd trip ever. It's not like we go every other year or anything. I usually pull for the West, so if we don't go I'll pull for ASU or ULL more than likely.

(02-19-2010 01:16 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]Seeding is good.

You're like the Olympian, Shaun White. You keep topping yourself.

(02-19-2010 01:28 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-19-2010 01:16 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]Seeding is good.

You're like the Olympian, Shaun White. You keep topping yourself.

I've pulled for ASU once in my life- when they played the Chickenhawgs in the NIT. I guess I might pull for them for the second time if that happened again this year. How can anyone claim its a "rivalry" if you root for them when they don't play us?

It'll only happen if stAte can make it to the NCAAAT.

(02-19-2010 03:32 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]It'll only happen if stAte can make it to the NCAAAT.

Since neither the Chickenhawgs or ASU will make the NCAA without winning their conference tournament, the odds of both making the NCAA are very very poor. And even if somehow it did happen, the seeding would be such that they would never meet.

The NIT on the other hand might have slightly better odds of having it happen, but still a long shot. The Chickenhawgs have a current RPI of 115 so they are still a very long shot for the NIT. That might change if they win over either Tennessee or Vandy and make them a lot more likely to make the NIT. ASU is currently 176 in the RPI, so to make the NIT, they would have to be the SBC regular season champs and get an automatic bid.

If the Chickenhawgs were able to get thier RPI up to NIT at large consideration status, and ASU got in with an automatic, then a rematch at Bud Walton would be highly likely for a couple of reasons. 1) The seeding would not be so far off to make it impossible, and 2) The NIT likes teams in their field to play others in their geographic region for cost consideration. Still, given all that would have to drop into place for this to happen, I wouldn't put a nickel on the chances.

Agreed on all fronts. I just wanted to get a rise out of my old friend MJS.

I can't imagine winning the SEC/T, but that is what it would take to get to the NCAAT.

The NIT, though, is within the realm of possibilities. I think of the last 5 games, Hogs can only afford to lose 1 - either Tennessee or Vandy. And then I think they have to win 2 SEC/T games. If both happen, then the RPI will drop significantly and they will be within consideration. Chance of winning 6 of the next 7 is VERY slim, but possible. It has been fun watching the team come together and get on a roll. And who'da thought they be on top with a 1 game lead after 11.

WPS.

(02-19-2010 04:14 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed on all fronts. I just wanted to get a rise out of my old friend MJS.

I can't imagine winning the SEC/T, but that is what it would take to get to the NCAAT.

The NIT, though, is within the realm of possibilities. I think of the last 5 games, Hogs can only afford to lose 1 - either Tennessee or Vandy. And then I think they have to win 2 SEC/T games. If both happen, then the RPI will drop significantly and they will be within consideration. Chance of winning 6 of the next 7 is VERY slim, but possible. It has been fun watching the team come together and get on a roll. And who'da thought they be on top with a 1 game lead after 11.

WPS.

Scotto, you may be short-changing your pigs. Personally, I stll think talk of the NCAA tournament is a little delusional- but they have 2 very bad teams on the road (Auburn and LSU), 2 good teams at home (Vandy and Ole Miss) and one good team on the road (Tenn). If they beat the bad road teams, beat Ole Miss, and split Vandy and Tenn I think they are on the bubble with an 11-5 SEC record and West championship (win them all and they are a lock with a 12-4 SEC record). Then it comes down to winning a game or two in the SEC tournament. The committee will consider that Forstson missed the first half of the season. If they end up winning 10 or so of their last 12 SEC games, they are in regardless if their RPI is still in the 60's or low 70's. The NCAA has taken a team that low every once in awhile, and I bet it because of a situation similar to what happened to them this year. Of course, I expect them to lose to Auburn tomorrow and end all this nonsensical conjecture.

Well, you expected them to lose all 7 of the last 7. So I have hope.

(02-19-2010 08:26 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]Well, you expected them to lose all 7 of the last 7. So I have hope.

In all honesty, they are playing very well. I don't see a game left they can't win. They should beat Auburn. But any team in the SEC can beat them as well. I assume LSU will win a game before its over.

(02-19-2010 03:57 PM)PTJR Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-19-2010 03:32 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]It'll only happen if stAte can make it to the NCAAAT.

Since neither the Chickenhawgs or ASU will make the NCAA without winning their conference tournament, the odds of both making the NCAA are very very poor. And even if somehow it did happen, the seeding would be such that they would never meet.

The NIT on the other hand might have slightly better odds of having it happen, but still a long shot. The Chickenhawgs have a current RPI of 115 so they are still a very long shot for the NIT. That might change if they win over either Tennessee or Vandy and make them a lot more likely to make the NIT. ASU is currently 176 in the RPI, so to make the NIT, they would have to be the SBC regular season champs and get an automatic bid.

If the Chickenhawgs were able to get thier RPI up to NIT at large consideration status, and ASU got in with an automatic, then a rematch at Bud Walton would be highly likely for a couple of reasons. 1) The seeding would not be so far off to make it impossible, and 2) The NIT likes teams in their field to play others in their geographic region for cost consideration. Still, given all that would have to drop into place for this to happen, I wouldn't put a nickel on the chances.

If the Hogs thought they'd possibly have to play ASU, they'd skip the NIT just like when it appeared they would play us. Unless Jeff Long is different than Frank Broyles, and I haven't heard his stance on in-state teams at all.

We weren't invited. How could they have played us if we weren't even in the dang thing..?

The NIT? Remember, when it was still based on marketable matchups, UAF decided to back out of the NIT, and it resulted in UALR staying at home because they had no marketable matchup, despite being something like 60-70 RPI.

If we couldn't get in on our own merits than we didn't deserve to be there in the first place. Delusional Trojan thinking.

No, they were a shoe-in, as I recall. I'm not talking about last year. This was what? 5 or 6 years ago?