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Dems intend to bypass GOP on health compromise

Published - Jan 04 2010 11:19PM EST

By DAVID ESPO - AP Special Correspondent

WASHINGTON— House and Senate Democrats intend to bypass traditional procedures when they negotiate a final compromise on health care legislation, officials said Monday, a move that will exclude Republican lawmakers and reduce their ability to delay or force politically troubling votes in both houses.

The unofficial timetable calls for final passage of the measure to remake the nation's health care system by the time President BarackBarack Obamaial timetable calls for final passage of the measure to remake the nation's health care system by the time President Barack Obama delivers his State of the Union address, probably in early February.

Democratic aides said the final compromise talks would essentially be a three-way negotiation involving top Democrats in the House and Senate and the White House, a structure that gives unusual latitude to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California.

These officials said there are no plans to appoint a formal House-Senate conference committee, the method Congress most often uses to reconcile differing bills. Under that customary format, a committee chairman is appointed to preside, and other senior lawmakers from both parties and houses participate in typically perfunctory public meetings while the meaningful negotiations occur behind closed doors.

In this case, the plan is to skip the formal meetings, reach an agreement, then have the two houses vote as quickly as possible. A 60-vote Senate majority would be required in advance of final passage.

"I look forward to working with members of the House, the Senate and President Obama to reconcile our bills and send the final legislation to the president's desk as soon as possible," Pelosi said late last year as the Senate approved its version of the legislation.

"We hope to get a bill done as soon as possible," said Jim Manley, a spokesman for Reid.

The issue is so partisan that only one Republican, Rep. Anh "Joseph" Cao of Louisiana, has cast a vote in favor of the legislation.

GOP leaders have vowed to try and block a final bill from reaching Obama's desk. "This fight isn't over. My colleagues and I will work to stop this bill from becoming law," Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., the Republican leader, said shortly before the Senate cleared its version of the bill last month.

Both houses have already passed legislation to remake the health care system, extending coverage to millions who lack it while cracking down on industry practices such as denying insurance on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions.

There are literally hundreds of differences between the two bills, a House measure that ran to 1,990 pages and a Senate version of 2,074, not counting 383 pages of last-minute changes. The biggest differences involve a dispute over a government-run insurance option _ the House wants one, but the Senate bill omitted it _ as well as the size and extent of federal subsidies to help lower-income families afford coverage.

Bypassing a formal conference committee enables Democrats to omit time-consuming procedural steps in the Senate and prevents Republicans from trying to delay the final negotiations.

Under Senate rules, three separate votes are required before negotiators for the two houses may hold a formal meeting. While the three normally are agreed to within seconds, each may be filibustered, and Democrats would then have to produce 60 votes to cut off debate.

Additionally, Republicans would have the right to demand votes on nonbinding proposals once negotiators for the two houses were appointed. That could, in turn, require Democrats to vote on political controversies such as wiping out the legislation's proposed cuts in Medicare, the type of issue that could easily be turned into attack ads in next fall's campaign.

Congress plans no formal sessions until Jan. 19, but Pelosi intends to meet this week with key committee chairmen and other leaders, and a separate meeting is also planned for members of the rank and file.

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Kind of sounds like the Bush congress doesn't it? So much for reaching across the aisle.
(01-05-2010 08:40 AM)beck Wrote: [ -> ]Kind of sounds like the Bush congress doesn't it? So much for reaching across the aisle.

Oh look its another completely pointless, thoughtless, knee-jerk "Bush" post by one-note Beck!

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(01-05-2010 08:40 AM)beck Wrote: [ -> ]Kind of sounds like the Bush congress doesn't it? So much for reaching across the aisle.

Bush did negotiate with the Dems. That's what did him in.

Kinda like negotiating with the Devil.
Eastside, your moronic and redundant posts about O'Stalin and on and on are juvenile and off base. Your crew put Obama in the white house, so shut up and live with it. If you read my post again it calls out Obama for not "reaching across the aisle" as he said he would. Don't hate me because I won't line up with the rest of the lemmings. You get in line if you want to.

Votto, Bush couldn't negotiate his way off of Dick Cheney's lap. Safer there than he would be out hunting with Cheney though.

Funny how you guys give your crew a free ride while he pisses away our economy and involves in armed conflict that you now blame on Obama.

If the American public decide Obama has to go then so be it, but 8 years of Bush gave them no reason to believe that GOP would represent them how they deserve to be represented. It's the truth, live with it.
(01-06-2010 07:01 PM)beck Wrote: [ -> ]Eastside, your moronic and redundant posts about O'Stalin and on and on are juvenile and off base. Your crew put Obama in the white house, so shut up and live with it. If you read my post again it calls out Obama for not "reaching across the aisle" as he said he would. Don't hate me because I won't line up with the rest of the lemmings. You get in line if you want to.

Votto, Bush couldn't negotiate his way off of Dick Cheney's lap. Safer there than he would be out hunting with Cheney though.

Funny how you guys give your crew a free ride while he pisses away our economy and involves in armed conflict that you now blame on Obama.

If the American public decide Obama has to go then so be it, but 8 years of Bush gave them no reason to believe that GOP would represent them how they deserve to be represented. It's the truth, live with it.

Broken record. One trick pony. Sound bite boy.
You post conservative drivel every day, usually more than once and you call me a broken record? That's comical. If you don't get in line with the lemmings around here you get called out by all the lemmings, I understand that. Don't expect me to get in line with the lemmings.

I say again, question everything, but you only question Obama. What are you afraid of?

You guys are ruining what once was a decent site with all of your anti rants. Until you start calling out the GOP you're nothing more than lemmings.

Bush put Obama in the white house, not me. You wouldn't put McCain on the ticket when you should have because he wastoo liberal, then you trot him out with a show pony as cannon fodder because you knew the election was lost. Laughable. John, you're old and expendable, can you take one for the team?

I find Obama as crazy as you guys do. If the dems had a fillibuster proof majority we'd really be in trouble. Obama spends like there is no tomorrow and he spends too much time showboating for my liking, but you put him there and you can't stand. Live with it...Live with it...Live with it...sorry, the record is broken.
(01-06-2010 07:25 PM)beck Wrote: [ -> ]You post conservative drivel every day, usually more than once and you call me a broken record? That's comical. If you don't get in line with the lemmings around here you get called out by all the lemmings, I understand that. Don't expect me to get in line with the lemmings.

I say again, question everything, but you only question Obama. What are you afraid of?

You guys are ruining what once was a decent site with all of your anti rants. Until you start calling out the GOP you're nothing more than lemmings.

Bush put Obama in the white house, not me. You wouldn't put McCain on the ticket when you should have because he wastoo liberal, then you trot him out with a show pony as cannon fodder because you knew the election was lost. Laughable. John, you're old and expendable, can you take one for the team?

I find Obama as crazy as you guys do. If the dems had a fillibuster proof majority we'd really be in trouble. Obama spends like there is no tomorrow and he spends too much time showboating for my liking, but you put him there and you can't stand. Live with it...Live with it...Live with it...sorry, the record is broken.

Broken record. One trick pony. Sound bite boy.
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