I can't believe they are willing to do this with the threat of Big Ten expansion looming.
Quote:So, no, the Big East will not expand to the required 12 teams by 2011. Instead, the conference will extend an invitation to the Mountain West to play in a “Championship Game” between the two conferences.
The Mountain West gains a shot at legitimacy by playing a BCS champion. In addition, a victory in this game gives the Mountain West automatic inclusion in the BCS.
Preliminary plans are for the Mountain West to receive up to half of the Big East's BCS revenue, more than what the conference makes now, even when TCU or Utah are invited. What is lost to the MWC is returned to the Big East through television rights to the Alliance Championship Game.
The game is tentatively placed in the eastern portion of the country, allowing for simpler travel for Big East fans. Pittsburgh, New York, Washington, and Tampa have all been floated as possible sites.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/31416...me-in-2011
Absolutely wow......
(12-29-2009 01:10 PM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ]I can't believe they are willing to do this with the threat of Big Ten expansion looming.
Quote:So, no, the Big East will not expand to the required 12 teams by 2011. Instead, the conference will extend an invitation to the Mountain West to play in a “Championship Game” between the two conferences.
The Mountain West gains a shot at legitimacy by playing a BCS champion. In addition, a victory in this game gives the Mountain West automatic inclusion in the BCS.
Preliminary plans are for the Mountain West to receive up to half of the Big East's BCS revenue, more than what the conference makes now, even when TCU or Utah are invited. What is lost to the MWC is returned to the Big East through television rights to the Alliance Championship Game.
The game is tentatively placed in the eastern portion of the country, allowing for simpler travel for Big East fans. Pittsburgh, New York, Washington, and Tampa have all been floated as possible sites.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/31416...me-in-2011
Absolutely wow......
Story is not sourced. No quotes. Nothing to suggest this is anything but one person's speculation. Poor, poor journalism.
ENOUGH with Bleacher Report links. That site lets ANYONE write ANYTHING. I'd trust what I find written on a bathroom wall before that site.
(12-29-2009 01:10 PM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ]I can't believe they are willing to do this with the threat of Big Ten expansion looming.
Quote:So, no, the Big East will not expand to the required 12 teams by 2011. Instead, the conference will extend an invitation to the Mountain West to play in a “Championship Game” between the two conferences.
The Mountain West gains a shot at legitimacy by playing a BCS champion. In addition, a victory in this game gives the Mountain West automatic inclusion in the BCS.
Preliminary plans are for the Mountain West to receive up to half of the Big East's BCS revenue, more than what the conference makes now, even when TCU or Utah are invited. What is lost to the MWC is returned to the Big East through television rights to the Alliance Championship Game.
The game is tentatively placed in the eastern portion of the country, allowing for simpler travel for Big East fans. Pittsburgh, New York, Washington, and Tampa have all been floated as possible sites.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/31416...me-in-2011
Absolutely wow......
This is just completely ridiculous.. There are teams, in the BE market, that would cut off their arms to be a FB only member why in the world would they give up half their BCS bowl revenue rather than add a couple of teams and give up only a fraction to them..
(12-29-2009 01:18 PM)HuronDave Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2009 01:10 PM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ]I can't believe they are willing to do this with the threat of Big Ten expansion looming.
Quote:So, no, the Big East will not expand to the required 12 teams by 2011. Instead, the conference will extend an invitation to the Mountain West to play in a “Championship Game” between the two conferences.
The Mountain West gains a shot at legitimacy by playing a BCS champion. In addition, a victory in this game gives the Mountain West automatic inclusion in the BCS.
Preliminary plans are for the Mountain West to receive up to half of the Big East's BCS revenue, more than what the conference makes now, even when TCU or Utah are invited. What is lost to the MWC is returned to the Big East through television rights to the Alliance Championship Game.
The game is tentatively placed in the eastern portion of the country, allowing for simpler travel for Big East fans. Pittsburgh, New York, Washington, and Tampa have all been floated as possible sites.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/31416...me-in-2011
Absolutely wow......
Story is not sourced. No quotes. Nothing to suggest this is anything but one person's speculation. Poor, poor journalism.
True, and I don't see why MWC would agree to this when they are poised to receive an auto bid and a full share in 2012. But, if it does come to fruition, a similar arrangement could be made between MAC and Big 10. The Benefits to the MAC are obvious. The benefits for the Big 10 are that they wouldn't have to change the structure of the conference, wouldn't have to give another team a cut, would receive a sizable chunk of money from a championship game, and because they would win this game virtually every time, have one more victory and a greater likelihood of playing for a NT.
(12-29-2009 01:32 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2009 01:10 PM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ]I can't believe they are willing to do this with the threat of Big Ten expansion looming.
Quote:So, no, the Big East will not expand to the required 12 teams by 2011. Instead, the conference will extend an invitation to the Mountain West to play in a “Championship Game” between the two conferences.
The Mountain West gains a shot at legitimacy by playing a BCS champion. In addition, a victory in this game gives the Mountain West automatic inclusion in the BCS.
Preliminary plans are for the Mountain West to receive up to half of the Big East's BCS revenue, more than what the conference makes now, even when TCU or Utah are invited. What is lost to the MWC is returned to the Big East through television rights to the Alliance Championship Game.
The game is tentatively placed in the eastern portion of the country, allowing for simpler travel for Big East fans. Pittsburgh, New York, Washington, and Tampa have all been floated as possible sites.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/31416...me-in-2011
Absolutely wow......
This is just completely ridiculous.. There are teams, in the BE market, that would cut off their arms to be a FB only member why in the world would they give up half their BCS bowl revenue rather than add a couple of teams and give up only a fraction to them..
If you read the fine print on this deal, the MWC would be the junior partner in the arrangement.
The championship game would be on Big East soil, meaning they'll likely keep the gate receipts and the TV revenue associated with the game. They'll make up for the split of BCS bowl revenue by retaining the champsionship game revenue. With this game pitting 2 schools from distant parts of the country it would be very appealing to the TV networks.
Further, assuming the Big East Champ wins this game, they'll receive another quality win to help them in the BCS standings. As you can see that would be important in a year like this with multiple undefeated teams.
Both the MWC and Big East would benefit from the arrangement. Also, post raid thinking is involved here. If the Big East takes another hit that will once again place into question its BCS bid but this arrangement gives it another leg to stand on.
Big Ten to 14/16, Big East combo with MWC....who is next.
(12-29-2009 01:33 PM)RocketJeff Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2009 01:18 PM)HuronDave Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2009 01:10 PM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ]I can't believe they are willing to do this with the threat of Big Ten expansion looming.
Quote:So, no, the Big East will not expand to the required 12 teams by 2011. Instead, the conference will extend an invitation to the Mountain West to play in a “Championship Game” between the two conferences.
The Mountain West gains a shot at legitimacy by playing a BCS champion. In addition, a victory in this game gives the Mountain West automatic inclusion in the BCS.
Preliminary plans are for the Mountain West to receive up to half of the Big East's BCS revenue, more than what the conference makes now, even when TCU or Utah are invited. What is lost to the MWC is returned to the Big East through television rights to the Alliance Championship Game.
The game is tentatively placed in the eastern portion of the country, allowing for simpler travel for Big East fans. Pittsburgh, New York, Washington, and Tampa have all been floated as possible sites.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/31416...me-in-2011
Absolutely wow......
Story is not sourced. No quotes. Nothing to suggest this is anything but one person's speculation. Poor, poor journalism.
True, and I don't see why MWC would agree to this when they are poised to receive an auto bid and a full share in 2012. But, if it does come to fruition, a similar arrangement could be made between MAC and Big 10. The Benefits to the MAC are obvious. The benefits for the Big 10 are that they wouldn't have to change the structure of the conference, wouldn't have to give another team a cut, would receive a sizable chunk of money from a championship game, and because they would win this game virtually every time, have one more victory and a greater likelihood of playing for a NT.
Not sure what the MAC is going to be able to do here. The Big Ten is far from a desperate position like the Big East.
I could see CUSA move to 16 to butteress its basketball standing (where true revenue is made) and to enhance the value of its football champion.
(12-29-2009 01:48 PM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure what the MAC is going to be able to do here. The Big Ten is far from a desperate position like the Big East.
I could see CUSA move to 16 to butteress its basketball standing (where true revenue is made) and to enhance the value of its football champion.
I assume you think the Big East is in a desperate situation because you expect a Big 10 pilfering of one of their teams. I don't see it happening. UConn and Rutgers have been mentioned because of the NYC market, but there are many Big 10 alumni living in the area with the Big 10 channel available. How many more households do either of those two bring? Syracuse is a basketball school so why would they leave the Big East? And again, how many football-watching households do they bring? Big 10 is already largely in the Pennsylvania market because of Penn State. Once again, how many additional households does Pitt bring? WVU brings an entire state of new, football-loving, tv viewing households, but nobody includes them in the discussion. An arrangement with the MAC similar to what is proposed above doesn't bring any new households, but it brings additional revenue without any disruption of the status quo. This is all moot anyway, because it's a fake. I just thought it would be interesting to bring a MAC component to the discussion.
(12-29-2009 01:46 PM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2009 01:32 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2009 01:10 PM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ]I can't believe they are willing to do this with the threat of Big Ten expansion looming.
Quote:So, no, the Big East will not expand to the required 12 teams by 2011. Instead, the conference will extend an invitation to the Mountain West to play in a “Championship Game” between the two conferences.
The Mountain West gains a shot at legitimacy by playing a BCS champion. In addition, a victory in this game gives the Mountain West automatic inclusion in the BCS.
Preliminary plans are for the Mountain West to receive up to half of the Big East's BCS revenue, more than what the conference makes now, even when TCU or Utah are invited. What is lost to the MWC is returned to the Big East through television rights to the Alliance Championship Game.
The game is tentatively placed in the eastern portion of the country, allowing for simpler travel for Big East fans. Pittsburgh, New York, Washington, and Tampa have all been floated as possible sites.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/31416...me-in-2011
Absolutely wow......
This is just completely ridiculous.. There are teams, in the BE market, that would cut off their arms to be a FB only member why in the world would they give up half their BCS bowl revenue rather than add a couple of teams and give up only a fraction to them..
If you read the fine print on this deal, the MWC would be the junior partner in the arrangement.
The championship game would be on Big East soil, meaning they'll likely keep the gate receipts and the TV revenue associated with the game. They'll make up for the split of BCS bowl revenue by retaining the champsionship game revenue. With this game pitting 2 schools from distant parts of the country it would be very appealing to the TV networks.
Further, assuming the Big East Champ wins this game, they'll receive another quality win to help them in the BCS standings. As you can see that would be important in a year like this with multiple undefeated teams.
Both the MWC and Big East would benefit from the arrangement. Also, post raid thinking is involved here. If the Big East takes another hit that will once again place into question its BCS bid but this arrangement gives it another leg to stand on.
Big Ten to 14/16, Big East combo with MWC....who is next.
By doing this the MWC stands to prolong the status quo, where are right now they are on the inside track (by 2011 or 2012) to be an AQ conference... I just don't see this working out for them
(12-29-2009 02:48 PM)RocketJeff Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2009 01:48 PM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure what the MAC is going to be able to do here. The Big Ten is far from a desperate position like the Big East.
I could see CUSA move to 16 to butteress its basketball standing (where true revenue is made) and to enhance the value of its football champion.
I assume you think the Big East is in a desperate situation because you expect a Big 10 pilfering of one of their teams. I don't see it happening. UConn and Rutgers have been mentioned because of the NYC market, but there are many Big 10 alumni living in the area with the Big 10 channel available. How many more households do either of those two bring? Syracuse is a basketball school so why would they leave the Big East? And again, how many football-watching households do they bring? Big 10 is already largely in the Pennsylvania market because of Penn State. Once again, how many additional households does Pitt bring? WVU brings an entire state of new, football-loving, tv viewing households, but nobody includes them in the discussion. An arrangement with the MAC similar to what is proposed above doesn't bring any new households, but it brings additional revenue without any disruption of the status quo. This is all moot anyway, because it's a fake. I just thought it would be interesting to bring a MAC component to the discussion.
I didn't mean the Big East was vulnerable because that it could be subject to a raid by the Big Ten. If you read my posts I expect that the Big Ten is going to look toward the Big XII.
What I am saying is that at 8 members the grip the Big East has on an automatic qualifier is shaky with other BCS conferences expanding to 14/16 it becomes harder to justify giving an autobid just to the Big East.
The Big Ten has less of a problem in that regard if they don't expand since they are already sitting on 11 members.
Thus why I can see the value of an alliance championship game.
Not surprisingly, this looks an awful lot like a playoff scenario.
(12-29-2009 03:30 PM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ]What I am saying is that at 8 members the grip the Big East has on an automatic qualifier is shaky with other BCS conferences expanding to 14/16 it becomes harder to justify giving an autobid just to the Big East.
More is not better. As long as the Big East continues to put at least one out of their eight teams in the top ten (which they have) they will not lose their auto bid.
Anyone that believes this is an imbecile. Bleacher Report lets anyone write anything; no sources, no quotes. Positively is nothing but absolute nonsense. Heck, NCAA rules don't even allow for this, and why would the Big East want to legitimize themselves as the worst AQ conference by playing a champ game with a non-AQ conference? This is some ******* writing his outlandish idea as a fact story, probably just to see where it goes -- like the guy a few months ago that wrote a "breaking news" story that Texas and Texas A&M would join the ACC. For the love of Pete!
