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Sagarin has our SOS as 16. 4-6 with the 16th-toughest schedule in the country - I guess that isn't too bad.

(OK, back to reality now.)

Is it really listed as 4-6..? I thought from an RPI /SOS calculation, we are 2-6.

You probably are correct.

Seems to me that if we boast a 16 SOS, we have to own a 2-6 record.

What's our RPI..?

(12-14-2009 08:48 AM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]Seems to me that if we boast a 16 SOS, we have to own a 2-6 record.

What's our RPI..?

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Darn good for 2-6. Goes to show what playing good competition does for your RPI.

Now, split the road games and win the home games and call it a darn good season.

Win the SBC tournament and none of it matters.

(12-14-2009 09:28 AM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]Darn good for 2-6. Goes to show what playing good competition does for your RPI.

Now, split the road games and win the home games and call it a darn good season.

Win the SBC tournament and none of it matters.

19 games to go. Give us the benefit of the doubt. We split and take the extra game. 10 wins. That gives us 12 D1 wins for the season. One of the worst seasons in modern school history.

Win the tournament? O.K. That would override the horrible season.
Win an NCAA game! One of the greatest seasons in Trojan history.
I'll drink to that.

(12-14-2009 09:34 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]19 games to go. Give us the benefit of the doubt. We split and take the extra game. 10 wins. That gives us 12 D1 wins for the season. One of the worst seasons in modern school history.

Win the tournament? O.K. That would override the horrible season.
Win an NCAA game! One of the greatest seasons in Trojan history.
I'll drink to that.

Even an NCAA win does not make a great season. It makes one great game.

(12-14-2009 10:37 AM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-14-2009 09:34 AM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]19 games to go. Give us the benefit of the doubt. We split and take the extra game. 10 wins. That gives us 12 D1 wins for the season. One of the worst seasons in modern school history.

Win the tournament? O.K. That would override the horrible season.
Win an NCAA game! One of the greatest seasons in Trojan history.
I'll drink to that.

Even an NCAA win does not make a great season. It makes one great game.

It seems like we're the only ones who believe a "great" season is more than getting hot/lucky in March.

Well, a 23 win season will get you a cup of coffee. If you've got the $2.50 or so.

A post-season appearance will get recruits, more fans and a buzz about the program.

So yes, a great season is about getting "lucky / hot" in March.

(12-14-2009 12:44 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]Well, a 23 win season will get you a cup of coffee. If you've got the $2.50 or so.

A post-season appearance will get recruits, more fans and a buzz about the program.

So yes, a great season is about getting "lucky / hot" in March.

Maybe you're right. It's been so long I can't remember. Just seems like those teams that get in with 14-19 records get mostly ridicule from the national press. But like they say, even bad publicity is better than no publicity.

And because of basketball's fixation on tournaments, you could be 5-29 and have a "great" season.

(12-14-2009 01:12 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]And because of basketball's fixation on tournaments, you could be 5-29 and have a "great" season.

Again. I simply think that's ridiculous. A 4 month season means more to me than 3 games in March.

On the other hand, the "fixation" on the tournament has effected me in that I have no interest in watching the UNCs, Dukes, UK's, etc. play during the season. I know they'll be in the tournament "which is all that matters". I really couldn't care less if they are seeded 1, 2, or 5. I guess that's why I like the college football set-up better. Every regular season game is crucial for the big teams- Alabama or Texas lose one game this year and their not playing for the national title.

Won 23 and attendance went down. Now we are 4-6 and it went down some more.

(12-14-2009 12:44 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]Well, a 23 win season will get you a cup of coffee. If you've got the $2.50 or so.
A post-season appearance will get recruits, more fans and a buzz about the program.

So yes, a great season is about getting "lucky / hot" in March.

Some forget that the 85-86 team went 23-11 after the slow start, and picked up a win in the NCAA tourney. I'm like Scotto. Gotta have a good record during the season, and go to the post season(preferably the NCAA)too. I don't give a damn about 10-20 team going to the tournament. That's one thing I don't like about the setup. You shouldn't be allowed to go to the tournament with a losing record. At least they require the football teams to have six wins to go to a bowl.

(12-14-2009 04:21 PM)LRTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-14-2009 12:44 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]Well, a 23 win season will get you a cup of coffee. If you've got the $2.50 or so.
A post-season appearance will get recruits, more fans and a buzz about the program.

So yes, a great season is about getting "lucky / hot" in March.

Some forget that the 85-86 team went 23-11 after the slow start, and picked up a win in the NCAA tourney. I'm like Scotto. Gotta have a good record during the season, and go to the post season(preferably the NCAA)too. I don't give a damn about 10-20 team going to the tournament. That's one thing I don't like about the setup. You shouldn't be allowed to go to the tournament with a losing record. At least they require the football teams to have six wins to go to a bowl.

I agree. But I've argued for years that a primarily one bid league such as ours should reward the teams for the regular season, so there should be a playoff between division winners for the NCAA berth, and for the Sun Belt Championship. The SEC and Big 12 football pit the division winners in one game for the league title. Why can't the Sun Belt become smart and do that in basketball.

We do. Seeding.

(12-14-2009 06:21 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]We do. Seeding.

Seeding doesn't mean crap. You should be rewarded with the opportunity to play for the NCAA tournament if you win your division. Otherwise, cut out division play. All is means is that you can hang a banner in your arena. Big deal.

(12-14-2009 06:26 PM)outsideualr Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-14-2009 06:21 PM)Scotto Wrote: [ -> ]We do. Seeding.

Seeding doesn't mean crap. You should be rewarded with the opportunity to play for the NCAA tournament if you win your division. Otherwise, cut out division play. All is means is that you can hang a banner in your arena. Big deal.

More on seeding. Here's an interesting concept. According to our present setup, the overall league champion goes to the tournament, regardless of what they do in the tournament, so why not seed the other division champion into the final game, and the league champion into the semi finals. That way, we'd have a little better chance of getting two teams into the postseason. Of course the division winner would still have to win the championship game, but maybe they can do it in one game. If the league champion still wins, so be it, but maybe by being in the final game, the runner up might still get a bid to the NIT. I still like the two division winners playing a one game winner take all, the loser going to the NIT, but this would be my second best alternative.

I still like the idea of the conference tournaments being an extension of the NCAA Tournament. Keep it the way it is, except those conferences like the Big Sky who don't lety all their teams in. Let 'em play!

Oh, and I prefer to have a great season, go the the NCAA, and win a game or two. I want it all, and that's what we shoud strive for.