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(11-11-2009 12:04 AM)DSniu41 Wrote: [ -> ]building a dynasty??? come on now

I guess I need to point out sarcasm. Apparently you haven't followed the meltdown at bsufans.com.

(11-10-2009 11:22 PM)KStud Wrote: [ -> ]I know nothing of Golden's situation and whether he would leave, but did someone say he could be the "JoePa of Philly"? How about a couple winning seasons in a row first.

Hence the inclusion of the word 'can/could' in my post.

(11-11-2009 12:06 AM)OUBOBCATJOHN Wrote: [ -> ]I would think that Kill at NIU gets a look by some schools. Pretty impressive job so far at NIU. With NIU heading toward another bowl that would open some eyes. Especially if Illinois decides to fire Zook.

If we win out, maybe. I think you're overrating the job Kill has done. He's 12-10 in less than 2 years, nothing to write home about. We're only 6-3 right now because we've played the worst the MAC has to offer the last 3 weeks. We make it 4 tomorrow night.

Illinois has already announced that Zook is coming back in 2010.

Gotta go with Amstutz being gone. I mean, this could be the 4th straight losing season for Toledo. We've got a ton of talent, more talent than anyone else in the MAC.......it's gotta be Amstutz's coaching.

(11-10-2009 09:45 PM)Crebman Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 06:22 PM)Arrohead Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 04:03 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]Golden, Gill, Jones candidates to leave. Golden is actively looking to move up. IMO, Gill has done the most with the least and would get consideration if the right opening occurred. For example if Fat Charlie is greased, and a Brian Kelly of Skip Holtz takes that opening, Gill would take either job. Cinn pay over mill....ECU 800k range. He would be a better candidate than Jones or Golden for either spot.

UC would want Jones over Gill as he too runs the spread and was a seamless replacement for Kelly at CMU. Not sure Jones would take that job though.

UC might take a good look at Jones.

Lets see..... UC - in the Big East, located in a talent rich football state in a fairly large city, pays about $1 mil. a year OR....CMU in the MAC, located in up in the middle of nowhere in a state without alot of H.S. football talent, pays about $300k.

[b]Sure - Jones would rather stay in MT. Pleasant. Sure[/b]

Oh yeah... like Cincinnati is some kind of great destination in and of its self...

I don't hear too many coaches saying... "if only I could go to Cincinnati."

(11-11-2009 10:12 AM)warhawks22 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 09:45 PM)Crebman Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 06:22 PM)Arrohead Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 04:03 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]Golden, Gill, Jones candidates to leave. Golden is actively looking to move up. IMO, Gill has done the most with the least and would get consideration if the right opening occurred. For example if Fat Charlie is greased, and a Brian Kelly of Skip Holtz takes that opening, Gill would take either job. Cinn pay over mill....ECU 800k range. He would be a better candidate than Jones or Golden for either spot.

UC would want Jones over Gill as he too runs the spread and was a seamless replacement for Kelly at CMU. Not sure Jones would take that job though.

UC might take a good look at Jones.

Lets see..... UC - in the Big East, located in a talent rich football state in a fairly large city, pays about $1 mil. a year OR....CMU in the MAC, located in up in the middle of nowhere in a state without alot of H.S. football talent, pays about $300k.

[b]Sure - Jones would rather stay in MT. Pleasant. Sure[/b]

Oh yeah... like Cincinnati is some kind of great destination in and of its self...

I don't hear too many coaches saying... "if only I could go to Cincinnati."

Listen. I've been to both Cincinnati and Mt. Pleasant. There is absolutely no comparison between the 2 places. You CMU guys are obviously delusional.

Frankly, there isn't a coach (except maybe Solich) in the MAC that wouldn't jump at the chance of taking over ANY Big East football program. They all double to triple their salary, can pay assistants enough to stick around, the program gets BSC money, etc., etc.

It is a rare situation for a coach to stay at a MAC school over a BE school, period..... and I would bet that Butch Jones isn't one of those rare situations.

Go right ahead.......keep thinking that all coaches want to be in Mt. Pleasant forever.

BTW, your last coach obviously made the decision that Cincy was a more desirable destination than Mt. Pleasant.

Crebman - spot on. If a Big Least school comes knocking, any MAC coach - including Golden - will listen. No doubt about it.

NIU05 - here's a quote from you, emphasis mine ...

Quote:Golden, Gill, Jones candidates to leave. Golden is actively looking to move up.

Can you attribute that to someone or is that just your speculation. I haven't heard or ready anything to that effect.

Quote:BTW, your last coach obviously made the decision that Cincy was a more desirable destination than Mt. Pleasant.

That could be a pretty good argument for not going to Cinci.
Might he leave? Sure. Depends on what's best for himself and his family. The only argument I see being made here by CMU fans is that Cincinnati would not be Butch's dream job. Butch was a natural choice to replace Kelly at CMU, because he coached under Kelly at CMU and also at WVU under Rodriguez. That made him as much of an expert on the spread as anyone. It doesn't mean, though, that Butch would want to be BK's shadow again.

(11-11-2009 01:48 PM)CMichFan Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:BTW, your last coach obviously made the decision that Cincy was a more desirable destination than Mt. Pleasant.

It doesn't mean, though, that Butch would want to be BK's shadow again.

I'll give you that. If Kelly were to leave I'm not even saying that Jones would be on their list or visa versa. However, unfortunately, I think that almost all MAC coaches, if they are good and successful, are only rented by us for a relatively short time. Sadly the fate of Non-BCS instutitions.

(11-10-2009 10:17 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 09:56 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]Golden will not leave for UVA or Louisville. I guess Maryland might be possible, but we don't expect him to leave, regardless.

IMO, Golden is willing to leave for less than a UVA or Louisville.

Uh,

UCLA, Syracuse, and Boston College are no where near "less". He passed on them all.

(11-11-2009 03:56 PM)Owlified Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 10:17 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 09:56 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]Golden will not leave for UVA or Louisville. I guess Maryland might be possible, but we don't expect him to leave, regardless.

IMO, Golden is willing to leave for less than a UVA or Louisville.

Uh,

UCLA, Syracuse, and Boston College are no where near "less". He passed on them all.

Please. He passed on THEM?

He took his name out of consideration for those jobs.

I don't recall him being offered those jobs. I can see him turning down Syracuse (considering Syarcuse is a graveyard for coaches) for Temple but I cannot believe he would f-ing turn down the UCLA job for a MAC position if he *really* believed he had a shot.

No one in creation would turn down $1.25 mil and stay with his $575,000 job. That is an endearing thought, though.

(11-11-2009 05:02 PM)Frozenbaugh Wrote: [ -> ]He took his name out of consideration for those jobs.

I don't recall him being offered those jobs. I can see him turning down Syracuse (considering Syarcuse is a graveyard for coaches) for Temple but I cannot believe he would f-ing turn down the UCLA job for a MAC position if he *really* believed he had a shot.

No one in creation would turn down $1.25 mil and stay with his $575,000 job.

Spot on.

(11-11-2009 04:25 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2009 03:56 PM)Owlified Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 10:17 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 09:56 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]Golden will not leave for UVA or Louisville. I guess Maryland might be possible, but we don't expect him to leave, regardless.

IMO, Golden is willing to leave for less than a UVA or Louisville.

Uh,

UCLA, Syracuse, and Boston College are no where near "less". He passed on them all.

Please. He passed on THEM?

NIU they actually believe that sh#t

I am officially passing on the Notre Dame job. Just wanted to get that out there.

(11-12-2009 01:20 PM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ]I am officially passing on the Notre Dame job. Just wanted to get that out there.

(11-11-2009 05:02 PM)Frozenbaugh Wrote: [ -> ]He took his name out of consideration for those jobs.

I don't recall him being offered those jobs. I can see him turning down Syracuse (considering Syarcuse is a graveyard for coaches) for Temple but I cannot believe he would f-ing turn down the UCLA job for a MAC position if he *really* believed he had a shot.

No one in creation would turn down $1.25 mil and stay with his $575,000 job. That is an endearing thought, though.

The chancellor or prez at UCLA is a friend who knew him from his Virginia days. Was a courtesy interview to get his name out there.
BC and Syracuse he was not even considered.

(11-10-2009 10:17 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 09:56 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]Golden will not leave for UVA or Louisville. I guess Maryland might be possible, but we don't expect him to leave, regardless.

IMO, Golden is willing to leave for less than a UVA or Louisville.

Actually I think Temple will be able to put forth a pretty competitive offer for Golden.

Its not like Ball State where you go out and schedule a 1 for 1 with a BCS school. That would make any coach want to leave for a second tier Mountain West job.

(11-12-2009 03:00 PM)Airport KC Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 10:17 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 09:56 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]Golden will not leave for UVA or Louisville. I guess Maryland might be possible, but we don't expect him to leave, regardless.

IMO, Golden is willing to leave for less than a UVA or Louisville.

Actually I think Temple will be able to put forth a pretty competitive offer for Golden.

Its not like Ball State where you go out and schedule a 1 for 1 with a BCS school. That would make any coach want to leave for a second tier Mountain West job.

FCS you mean ?

(11-12-2009 01:12 PM)conrock Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2009 04:25 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-11-2009 03:56 PM)Owlified Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 10:17 PM)NIU05 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-10-2009 09:56 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]Golden will not leave for UVA or Louisville. I guess Maryland might be possible, but we don't expect him to leave, regardless.

IMO, Golden is willing to leave for less than a UVA or Louisville.

Uh,

UCLA, Syracuse, and Boston College are no where near "less". He passed on them all.

Please. He passed on THEM?

NIU they actually believe that sh#t

No, we don't.