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Next Top 25: Nov. 16, 2009

Previous, Record, Points

1. Butler (28) 0-0 770 -
2. Gonzaga (2) 0-0 699 -
3. Siena (1) 0-0 699 -
4. Northern Iowa 0-0 612 -
5. Western Kentucky 0-0 585 -
6. Old Dominion 0-0 580 -
7. Creighton 0-0 568 -
8. Akron 0-0 444 -
9. Wright State 0-0 377 -
10. Niagara 0-0 366 -
11. VCU 0-0 313 -
12. George Mason 0-0 304 -
13. Northeastern 0-0 298 -
14. Oakland 0-0 288 -
15. Portland 0-0 285 -
16. Illinois State 0-0 236 -
17. College of Charleston 0-0 230 -
18. Cornell 0-0 215 -
19. Rider 0-0 190 -
20. Long Beach State 0-0 171 -
21. South Alabama 0-0 166 -
22. Boston University 0-0 114 -
23. St. Mary's 0-0 105 -
24. Davidson 0-0 102 -
25. Radford 0-0 99 -


OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: North Texas 84, Cleveland State 82, Troy 77, Kent State 76, Jacksonville 72, UC Santa Barbara 69, Southern Illinois 64, Morehead State 61, Wichita State 58, Sam Houston State 57, Holy Cross 50, Weber State 50, UW Milwaukee 46, Buffalo 44, Vermont 44, Morgan State 38, Mount St Mary's 38, Bradley 24, Stephen F Austin 15, American 14, East Tennessee State 14, Denver 13, Murray State 13, North Dakota State 14, Middle Tennessee State 11, Miami 9, Montana State 9, Portland State 9, San Diego 9, UNC Asheville 9, Western Carolina 9, Wisconsin Green-Bay 8, Appalachian State 7, Norfolk State 7, Cal State Northridge 6, Indiana State 6, South Dakota 6, South Carolina State 5, Montana 4, St Peters 4, Belmont 3, Lehigh 3, Arkansas Little Rock 2, Chicago State 2, Princeton 2, Santa Clara 2, SE Louisiana 2, Central Michigan 1, Detroit 1, Jackson State 1, Longwood 1, Quinnipiac 1, Texas A&M CC 1, Texas San Antonio 1, Wofford 1.


VOTING PANEL: Randy Bennett (St. Mary's), Will Brown (Albany), Rick Byrd (Belmont), Dave Calloway (Monmouth), Kermit Davis (Middle Tennessee), Steve Donahue (Cornell), Anthony Evans (Norfolk State), James Fox (Davidson), Mike Gillian (Longwood), Steve Hawkins (Western Michigan), Dick Hunsaker (Utah Valley), Eddie Jackson (American), Kerry Keating (Santa Clara) *, Billy Kennedy (Murray State), Tod Kowalczyk (UW-Green Bay), Jim Larranaga (George Mason), Jim Les (Bradley), Mike Lonergan (Vermont), Bob Marlin (Sam Houston State), Gregg Marshall (Wichita State), Tom Moore (Quinnipiac), Jimmy Patsos (Loyola MD), Tom Pecora (Hofstra), Vann Pettaway (Alabama A&M), Rick Scruggs (Gardner-Webb), John Shulman (Chattanooga), Brad Stevens (Butler), Gary Stewart (UC Davis), Scott Sutton (Oral Roberts), Wayne Tinkle (Montana), Ernie Zeigler (Central Michigan)

* Santa Clara head coach Kerry Keating is the chairman of the Top 25 voting panel for the 2008-09 season.

NOTE: The Mid-Major Poll is made up of teams from the following conferences: America East, Atlantic Sun, Big Sky, Big South, Big West, Colonial, Great West, Horizon, Independents, Ivy, Metro Atlantic, Mid-American, Mid-Eastern, Missouri Valley, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Southern, Southland, Southwestern, Summit, Sun Belt, West Coast.

http://www.collegeinsider.com/mmpoll/?DB_OEM_ID=1800

Belmont will wind up with many more votes than they started with, as usual.

I'm getting tired of losing to them.

I thought North Texas would be where USA is? Kind of surprised.

(11-03-2009 05:45 PM)Franko Wrote: [ -> ]I thought North Texas would be were USA is? Kind of surprised.

Me too

and why exactly is CUSA not involved in this poll? they are certainly not a major basketball conference.

These ***major polls are a load of crap! There is no BCS in College Basketball. We are all D-1 and the only polls that should be used is the AP and Coaches. These are just further attempts to kick-out anyone not belonging to the "ESPN Club Conference", chaired by Dicky V and Digger, to hord all of the NCAA money and tournament seeds.


THERE IS NOTHING ***MAJOR ABOUT WKU BASKETBALL!!!:ncaabbs:

(11-03-2009 07:00 PM)GreekTopper Wrote: [ -> ]These ***major polls are a load of crap! There is no BCS in College Basketball. We are all D-1 and the only polls that should be used is the AP and Coaches. These are just further attempts to kick-out anyone not belonging to the "ESPN Club Conference", chaired by Dicky V and Digger, to hord all of the NCAA money and tournament seeds.


THERE IS NOTHING ***MAJOR ABOUT WKU BASKETBALL!!!:ncaabbs:

+1

I cant believe that they did not put UNT in the top 25. Just goes to show that it takes time to change peoples perceptions. I will be really surprised, and disappointed if we dont win the conference this year.
No offense to WKU, I know that they are a great program, but we have way to much talent returning this year.

(11-04-2009 01:30 AM)untlynchka Wrote: [ -> ]I cant believe that they did not put UNT in the top 25. Just goes to show that it takes time to change peoples perceptions. I will be really surprised, and disappointed if we dont win the conference this year.
No offense to WKU, I know that they are a great program, but we have way to much talent returning this year.

you obviously haven't had a chance to see my signature since this is your first post on here. carry on.

(11-03-2009 07:00 PM)GreekTopper Wrote: [ -> ]These ***major polls are a load of crap! There is no BCS in College Basketball. We are all D-1 and the only polls that should be used is the AP and Coaches. These are just further attempts to kick-out anyone not belonging to the "ESPN Club Conference", chaired by Dicky V and Digger, to hord all of the NCAA money and tournament seeds.


THERE IS NOTHING ***MAJOR ABOUT WKU BASKETBALL!!!:ncaabbs:

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All polls are basically for pride more than anything. Its all about getting into the NCAA field to show everyone what kind of team you really are. These at least provide more publicity for the teams that don't get the big boy stamp of approval. Dickie V will actually give a shout out to the non-BCS teams but Digger likes to cuddle with the BCS minions.

(11-03-2009 05:45 PM)Franko Wrote: [ -> ]I thought North Texas would be where USA is? Kind of surprised.

KIND of surprised! I am flabbergasted. Either those guys don't keep up with mid-major BB at all, or they keep up with it so close that they know USA's incoming class is one of the best in recent memory. Nothing against USA, but they lost a ton of talent from last year's team.

(11-05-2009 07:51 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-03-2009 05:45 PM)Franko Wrote: [ -> ]I thought North Texas would be where USA is? Kind of surprised.

KIND of surprised! I am flabbergasted. Either those guys don't keep up with mid-major BB at all, or they keep up with it so close that they know USA's incoming class is one of the best in recent memory. Nothing against USA, but they lost a ton of talent from last year's team.

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It could be this Pappy. The coaches are a cross section from across the country. They probably all know WKU and know USA has been right there close the last few years but North Texas has been kind of a middle of the pack and has risen to the top of the west. I am thinking they just don't keep up with the SBC well enough to know such. This is just my hunch.

And they saw that USA was in the title game last year and figured they must be good.

(11-06-2009 01:41 AM)CMJ Wrote: [ -> ]And they saw that USA was in the title game last year and figured they must be good.

While I do hope they're right, USA didn't look like a Top 25 team to me last night versus University of West Florida -- http://www.al.com/usabasketball/mobilere...xml&coll=3

Sure, they beat the Argos handily as they should have but they looked awfully sloppy on both sides of the ball and they tried but didn't gell as a team at all despite anything in the article. Of course, I suppose most teams are rusty and "off" a bit this time of the year and the Jags DO have the talent to make an impact but I'd be surprised (from what I witnessed) if there is a lot of postseason potential in this year's team. Hopefully I'm wrong though -- Coach Ronnie Arrow is one of the great ones and coaching cannot be underestimated.

Just my 2 cents :-)

How is the WAC not in this??? The Belt should remove the conference from this poll - these conferences are not our competition in my opinion. The SWAC is NOT a mid-major, they are a bottom feeder conference that consistently gets relegated to the "play-in" game. The only two conferences that give this poll validity are the Belt and the MVC.

(11-07-2009 01:51 AM)stebo Wrote: [ -> ]How is the WAC not in this??? The Belt should remove the conference from this poll - these conferences are not our competition in my opinion. The SWAC is NOT a mid-major, they are a bottom feeder conference that consistently gets relegated to the "play-in" game. The only two conferences that give this poll validity are the Belt and the MVC.

I agree that this is a pretty vague and silly poll... But don't forget the WCC, the Horizon, and the Colonial teams in there.

(11-04-2009 01:30 AM)untlynchka Wrote: [ -> ]I cant believe that they did not put UNT in the top 25. Just goes to show that it takes time to change peoples perceptions. I will be really surprised, and disappointed if we dont win the conference this year.
No offense to WKU, I know that they are a great program, but we have way to much talent returning this year.

Its going to be a close race no doubt. But we are going to be good and quite possibly scary good. There is a buzz here in BG that I haven't heard in years... not to even mention that Denver, Arkansas State, and Troy will definately have some say in how this season goes.


PS - I agree UNT should have been ranked higher in this poll.