Not a very flattering article about Cincinnati, Boise State and the Big East. I wonder whether an undefeated Big East team would ever get in the BCS championship game over a one loss team from the SEC or Big XII. I hope they would but with attitudes like this in the media, I am not sure. He seems to be lumping the Big East in with the WAC in terms of competitiveness.
http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/12322152
Not for nothing but Cincy doesn't have a cake walk to a BCS title game and never did. Fresno is not as bad as their 1-3 record suggests, we (Rutgers) seem to be better than the season opener granted against cupcakes, Oregon State, Illinois, and the rest of the Big East schedule. Boise maybe there's more of a point to be made, but then again they've been this good for years now and belong in a BCS conference more so than the likes of Duke, Baylor, or Washington State (sorry Cougars fans.)
If Cincy goes 12-0 they deserve to be in the championship game more than any 1 loss team.
Who cares what they think? They've been predicting the demise of the Big East since it's inception...
Let me get this straight. Some hack with a bad haircut writes a throw away piece about Cincinnati and Big East fans are supposed to get their panties in a wad? I'll let Coach Kelly print this and hang it in their locker room. Personally I'll let The Bearcats prove this twerp wrong. Then we all can remind Doyle about this when the BCS games are over. All the Bearcats (or Bulls for that matter) need to do is keep winning. The BCS ranking will take care of itself.
CJ
(10-06-2009 05:12 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: [ -> ]Who cares what they think? They've been predicting the demise of the Big East since it's inception...
Exactly bit! That's why I don't understand why people get bent out of shape about articles like this. We're taking care of business and reaping the benefits, and that's all that matters.
(10-06-2009 05:16 PM)CatsClaw Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2009 05:12 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: [ -> ]Who cares what they think? They've been predicting the demise of the Big East since it's inception...
Exactly bit! That's why I don't understand why people get bent out of shape about articles like this. We're taking care of business and reaping the benefits, and that's all that matters.
Absolutely. We prove it on the field. That's why ESPN isn't showing Dr. Lou's pick history any longer...
he's just trying to stir the pot and get as much hate mail to laugh over as possible. who cares.
Hasn't Doyel had kind of a major case of hateritis for Cincinnati for some time? In fact, he's pretty much an acidic person overall...
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USFFan
CBS always does this with their three writers. They get each to write contradictory stuff to cause a stir. If you notice the three of them have different articles:
Doyel's is about why Cincy and Boise should not be in the BCS title game
Dodd's is about why Boise should be in the title game
Freeman's is about why Cincy should be in the title game
They link to each others in each article. In some ways it's nice to read different points of views on subjects. But knowing they are doing it to be different really cheapens it for me. It has the feel of a high school debate club where even if you don't feel a certain way on a subject you're asked to argue its point.
My concern right now is not whether a 12-0 Cincinnati team deserves to be in the championship game. My freakin concern right now is beating a very talented South Florida team in Tampa a week from Thursday. It must hae been be a slow newsday if this is all Doyle had to write about.
(10-06-2009 05:43 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: [ -> ]he's just trying to stir the pot and get as much hate mail to laugh over as possible. who cares.
Yes, that's his M.O. Doyel had pretty good points when he focused solely on college basketball, but ever since he became a general sports columnist, he's gotten a bad case of Skip Bayless Disease (AKA Jay Mariotti Syndrome) of being negative and contrarian just for the sake of being negative and contrarian.
(10-07-2009 08:11 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2009 05:43 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: [ -> ]he's just trying to stir the pot and get as much hate mail to laugh over as possible. who cares.
Yes, that's his M.O. Doyel had pretty good points when he focused solely on college basketball, but ever since he became a general sports columnist, he's gotten a bad case of Skip Bayless Disease (AKA Jay Mariotti Syndrome) of being negative and contrarian just for the sake of being negative and contrarian.
With respect to Skip, I think it isn't just being negative and contrarian, its also being grossly misinformed at times about the subject he is writing/talking about.
They have a segment w/Doyel on Fox Sports Radio each Thursday morning and he usually makes some decent points in the interview, but sometimes he's clearly off his rocker.
(10-07-2009 08:24 AM)mattsarz Wrote: [ -> ]With respect to Skip, I think it isn't just being negative and contrarian, its also being grossly misinformed at times about the subject he is writing/talking about.
Oh, so true. It wasn't too long ago that Bayless was the top columnist at the Chicago Tribune and Mariotti was the top columnist at the Chicago Sun-Times AT THE SAME TIME. Both of these newspapers are now in bankruptcy. Coincidence? I think not. I'm just surprised that the entire City of Chicago wasn't consumed by a horde of locusts when both of them were in town.
(10-06-2009 08:14 PM)Garmuck Wrote: [ -> ]CBS always does this with their three writers. They get each to write contradictory stuff to cause a stir. If you notice the three of them have different articles:
Doyel's is about why Cincy and Boise should not be in the BCS title game
Dodd's is about why Boise should be in the title game
Freeman's is about why Cincy should be in the title game
They link to each others in each article. In some ways it's nice to read different points of views on subjects. But knowing they are doing it to be different really cheapens it for me. It has the feel of a high school debate club where even if you don't feel a certain way on a subject you're asked to argue its point.
Very true.
Since the inception of the BCS I believe only one undefeated BCS team has been left out of the NCG? That being Auburn in 2004.
(10-06-2009 05:16 PM)CatsClaw Wrote: [ -> ] (10-06-2009 05:12 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: [ -> ]Who cares what they think? They've been predicting the demise of the Big East since it's inception...
Exactly bit! That's why I don't understand why people get bent out of shape about articles like this. We're taking care of business and reaping the benefits, and that's all that matters.
These articles, as dumb as they are, matter, because they reflect and help shape the thinking of the media and coaches who will be voting in the polls.
Greg Doyel is nothing but a smack board poster.
Quo, I don't know... Cincy was ranked ahead of Ohio St in the AP this week. I think that's borderline over-respect. Whether or not UC is the better team, they're obviously not getting slighted.
USF is now ranked, and will probably be for a while if they keep winning. I doubt even a loss to UC drops them too far.
He's wrong about UC, but spot on regarding Boise. The voters are already starting to make sure the Broncos don't get a shot; VT jumped them in the last poll despite Boise winning.
Is anyone keeping a running talley on any of the pundit's predictions this year? It should make for some interesting reading at season's end...
(10-07-2009 02:17 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: [ -> ]Is anyone keeping a running talley on any of the pundit's predictions this year? It should make for some interesting reading at season's end...
I'm inclined to say Doyel's not worth the trouble, but, you may have a point.
(10-07-2009 02:46 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote: [ -> ] (10-07-2009 02:17 PM)bitcruncher Wrote: [ -> ]Is anyone keeping a running talley on any of the pundit's predictions this year? It should make for some interesting reading at season's end...
I'm inclined to say Doyel's not worth the trouble, but, you may have a point.
It would be nice to have a running total on predictions and votes from the inception of The NEW BEast. Would anyone bet most records for the pundits are above .500, as far as The BEast is concerned? I wouldn't...