Brian Kelly... HC Cincinnati
Chris Peterson... HC Boise St.
Kevin Sumlin... HC Houston
Charlie Strong... DC Florida
Brent Venables... DC Oklahoma
Greg Davis... OC Texas
Gary Patterson... HC TCU
Coach Steve Kragthorpe is a good man, with a will to win and to persevere. However, he is obviously in over his head and will not be successful as the head coach at the University of Louisville. He has lost most of the fan base, and I believe he has, or nearly has, lost this team. I wish him the best and hope he finds some measure of success in something. But, it's time to leave the University of Louisville.
(10-02-2009 10:06 PM)army56mike Wrote: [ -> ]Brian Kelly... HC Cincinnati
Chris Peterson... HC Boise St.
Kevin Sumlin... HC Houston
Charlie Strong... DC Florida
Brent Venables... DC Oklahoma
Greg Davis... OC Texas
Gary Patterson... HC TCU
That's an ambitious list Mike! There's no way Kelly would move within the Big East. I don't even think Patterson or Peterson would leave their schools unless we just paid out the nose. I wouldn't want Sumlin yet, let's see what he does over a full season or two.
As for the coordinators, some of those names such as Strong and Venebale have interviewed numerous times. It seems to be the unspoken issue, but why has Strong never been hired when he seems to interview at every BCS job that opens up practically?
Brian Kelly???
Anyways, what about Tommy Tuberville? I'm guessing he's looking to coach again and Louisville has a lot to offer as a program. With Tuberville at the helm I don't see why Ville can't become a top 15 team again, especially with that stadium expansion they're doing.
I would put Oklahoma OC Kevin Wilson on that list. He spent some time at Miami (OH) and I believe he met his wife there. Moving a couple hours from her home might be intriguing to his family.
(10-02-2009 10:06 PM)army56mike Wrote: [ -> ]Brian Kelly... HC Cincinnati
Chris Peterson... HC Boise St.
Kevin Sumlin... HC Houston
Charlie Strong... DC Florida
Brent Venables... DC Oklahoma
Greg Davis... OC Texas
Gary Patterson... HC TCU
What, Pete Carroll and Bill Parcells aren't good enough?
It's been a poorly kept secret the last 48 hours that Phil Fulmer has contacted certain individuals to let it be known he is interested in the position. I'll say no thanks on that, but you know it's bad when out of work coaches are initiating contact 3 games into a season, as this was prior to tonight.
Kraggy was all about team unity and the wheels are off after 4 games. At the post game press conference, Pittsburgh tight end Dorin Dickerson was quoted as saying the cardinal players "flat out quit."
It's also been a tradition for years for players to make their way around the stadium after a game to shake hands and highfive fans around the stadium in the front row. It's being reported by the Courier Journal columnist that the coaches were forcing the players to skip that and get into the locker room as soon as the game ended. 5 players ignored orders and made a full lap around the stadium. 2 of the 5 are Victor Anderson and Doug Beaumont, so we aren't talking about 3rd string guys here.
Per a coach at UL, this week said if Krags lost soundly to Pitt he was out, and President Ramsey and Jurich met with Tuberville last weekend and well on their way with discussions. Fulmer is politicing for the job and another separate story is member in AD department witnessed a fax to Gruden, not sure if it was a "contract" an offer, a setup for a meeting or whatever.
The three with legit ties of talking/listening are
Tuberville
Gruden
Fulmer
You guys need to hire Tuberville. Gruden will be gone the minute a NFL team is interested. Fulmer is nothing sexy, but at least he knows the SEC recruiting area.
(10-02-2009 11:35 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote: [ -> ]Per a coach at UL, this week said if Krags lost soundly to Pitt he was out, and President Ramsey and Jurich met with Tuberville last weekend and well on their way with discussions. Fulmer is politicing for the job and another separate story is member in AD department witnessed a fax to Gruden, not sure if it was a "contract" an offer, a setup for a meeting or whatever.
The three with legit ties of talking/listening are
Tuberville
Gruden
Fulmer
According to the rumors I've heard, Tuberville and Gruden have both been contacted by a group of boosters and former players. I've also heard that Fulmer has expressed interest in the job as well. But as always, I take it all with a grain of salt since rumors (particularly college coaching rumors) have a way of: a) being grossly inaccurate and b) perpetuating misinformation to large amounts of people so that what starts as hearsay becomes gospel among fans. So while it is interesting, I'll hold off any sense of hope or excitement until some concrete evidence is actually produced.
I'm sorry. What makes you think Kevin Sumlin would go to the Ville if his primary recruiting area since he was at A&M was greater Houston?
I hope you guys are right. But, I'll believe TJ is turning on this issue when I hear it. The BE needs the UL program to regain its strength.
The thing that's hurt this league is that the coaching changes after the league's ranking stars (Petrino, RichRod) left have both been downgrades - significant in UL's case. At least WVU's still brining in talent, and I consider them dangerous, but, UL's on its death bed.
On the other hand, SU's new coach is an obvious upgrade. Also, as much as people bag on Wanny, even he was an upgrade over Harris. Finesse-first football doesn't make it on this level. All other schools coaching situations are solid to good.
(10-03-2009 01:26 AM)canewton Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sorry. What makes you think Kevin Sumlin would go to the Ville if his primary recruiting area since he was at A&M was greater Houston?
What made Kragthrope leave Tulsa for Louisville?
What made Brian Kelley leave CMU for UC?
What made Rich Rod leave his alma mater for Michigan?
Money, "prestige", and ego. Right now Sumlin has an annual salary of $700,000 to coach in a non-BCS conference. Kragthorpe's annual salary is $1,450,000 to coach in a BCS league.
Would Sumlin leave Houston to go to UofL? I don't know. But I am sure there are plenty of schools not located in Texas that could shell out major money and use their BCS label/TV exposure to attract Sumlin. Unfortunately, that is how college athletics works.
(10-03-2009 12:09 AM)SF Husky Wrote: [ -> ]You guys need to hire Tuberville. Gruden will be gone the minute a NFL team is interested. Fulmer is nothing sexy, but at least he knows the SEC recruiting area.
You don't think Tuberville would bolt for the SEC at his first chance? He'd be pretty anxious to show Auburn how wrong they were, IMO.
Sumlin, I wonder... how effective would he be recruiting Houston if he was the coach of UL (about 1000 miles apart)?
(10-03-2009 01:48 AM)UofL07 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2009 01:26 AM)canewton Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sorry. What makes you think Kevin Sumlin would go to the Ville if his primary recruiting area since he was at A&M was greater Houston?
What made Kragthrope leave Tulsa for Louisville?
What made Brian Kelley leave CMU for UC?
What made Rich Rod leave his alma mater for Michigan?
Money, "prestige", and ego. Right now Sumlin has an annual salary of $700,000 to coach in a non-BCS conference. Kragthorpe's annual salary is $1,450,000 to coach in a BCS league.
Would Sumlin leave Houston to go to UofL? I don't know. But I am sure there are plenty of schools not located in Texas that could shell out major money and use their BCS label/TV exposure to attract Sumlin. Unfortunately, that is how college athletics works.
I can guarantee you Sumlin can be paid $1.4Million at UH.
(10-03-2009 02:39 AM)canewton Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2009 01:48 AM)UofL07 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2009 01:26 AM)canewton Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sorry. What makes you think Kevin Sumlin would go to the Ville if his primary recruiting area since he was at A&M was greater Houston?
What made Kragthrope leave Tulsa for Louisville?
What made Brian Kelley leave CMU for UC?
What made Rich Rod leave his alma mater for Michigan?
Money, "prestige", and ego. Right now Sumlin has an annual salary of $700,000 to coach in a non-BCS conference. Kragthorpe's annual salary is $1,450,000 to coach in a BCS league.
Would Sumlin leave Houston to go to UofL? I don't know. But I am sure there are plenty of schools not located in Texas that could shell out major money and use their BCS label/TV exposure to attract Sumlin. Unfortunately, that is how college athletics works.
I can guarantee you Sumlin can be paid $1.4Million at UH.
The problem is Houston is not in a BCS Conference and at a school that until recents was considered a pretty decent job. It is still a good job with the facilities and the fact Louisville can and has paid very well.
My choice is to go with a up and comer like Charlie Strong myself over another coach from a Non BCS School. Been there done that.
(10-03-2009 01:48 AM)UofL07 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2009 01:26 AM)canewton Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sorry. What makes you think Kevin Sumlin would go to the Ville if his primary recruiting area since he was at A&M was greater Houston?
What made Kragthrope leave Tulsa for Louisville?
What made Brian Kelley leave CMU for UC?
What made Rich Rod leave his alma mater for Michigan?
Money, "prestige", and ego. Right now Sumlin has an annual salary of $700,000 to coach in a non-BCS conference. Kragthorpe's annual salary is $1,450,000 to coach in a BCS league.
Would Sumlin leave Houston to go to UofL? I don't know. But I am sure there are plenty of schools not located in Texas that could shell out major money and use their BCS label/TV exposure to attract Sumlin. Unfortunately, that is how college athletics works.
Also...when most schools fire a coach...their next new head coach makes even MORE $$$ than the coach they fired.
As long as its a person with previous head coaching experience...I'd imagine that UL will probably have to pay around $1.6 Million to $1.8 Million (or more...especially with even MORE basketball revenue pouring into the coffers soon) or so for their next new head coach...and for Sumlin...that would be a VERY nice raise...and a raise that UH probably wouldn't be able to match.
taking kelly would be a ***** move
tuberville is the best option for you guys imo... if you guys hire tuberville midseason it would at least help recruiting
this krags experiment has to end, the big east needs you guys to be relevant
Jurich has shown before that he is not afraid to go after the big fish... look at Pitino. And as others say, money talks. UofL and the major boosters are going to be willing to pay to bring Prosperity back to Cardinal football after what we're going through.
A plane was spotted on radar two days ago coming in from the Boston area. Yesterday several sources saw Bill Belichick shopping for a farm in rich eastern Jefferson Co. near Louisville. Sources have told me it's a done deal.
