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It looks like tomorrow morning Little Caesar's will officially become the primary sponsor of the MCB.

http://themacdaily.com/index.php?news&nid=142

Oddly enough, the announcement will be at Comerica Park instead of at Ford Field.

Yeah, the MAC really needs to be in a bowl with the word "little" in it.
Maybe Sham-Wow will make a bid for the GMAC Bowl.

Or Colon Cleanse.

or strap ease

how bout eazy glide???

(09-01-2009 05:48 PM)psc2009 Wrote: [ -> ]It looks like tomorrow morning Little Caesar's will officially become the primary sponsor of the MCB.

http://themacdaily.com/index.php?news&nid=142

Oddly enough, the announcement will be at Comerica Park instead of at Ford Field.

If we move this game to Comercia Park, we better drop this game way down on the selection order. I'm talking MAC #3 in Detroit.

Better yet, we should drop this game all together and try to put in a deal with the Independence Bowl.

MAC #2/CUSA #2 in the Indy...that is the ticket.

how 'bout no...

independence bowl won't take the mac, you guys are too far away, and really don't travel too well..

if there was a MAC/CUSA bowl, then it would probably be MAC #2 / CUSA #4, you guys aren't equal with us.

(09-01-2009 05:59 PM)axeme Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, the MAC really needs to be in a bowl with the word "little" in it.
Maybe Sham-Wow will make a bid for the GMAC Bowl.

Or Colon Cleanse.

Tidy Bowl?

(09-02-2009 11:48 AM)mufanatehc Wrote: [ -> ]how 'bout no...

independence bowl won't take the mac, you guys are too far away, and really don't travel too well..

if there was a MAC/CUSA bowl, then it would probably be MAC #2 / CUSA #4, you guys aren't equal with us.

Here is another comparison point; Is the Big Ten equal with the SEC?

90% of college football fans would agree that the SEC is stronger than the Big Ten yet they are considered "peer" conferences that pit their #2 selections against each other in the Capital One Bowl.

Its clear that CUSA is slightly better than the MAC however both conferences are peers. They both have championship games. Neither conference has placed a school in a BCS bowl. The two conferences are pretty equal in the grand scheme of things.

The best situation would be for CUSA 1 vs MWC 1, WAC 1 vs MWC 2, MAC 1 vs SB 1 or CUSA 3


these are based on over all strength, so teams like Idaho and SJSU really weigh down the WAC and also SDSU and Wyoming weigh down the MWC

(09-04-2009 10:24 AM)mufanatehc Wrote: [ -> ]The best situation would be for CUSA 1 vs MWC 1, WAC 1 vs MWC 2, MAC 1 vs SB 1 or CUSA 3


these are based on over all strength, so teams like Idaho and SJSU really weigh down the WAC and also SDSU and Wyoming weigh down the MWC

Based on overall strength I would say:

CUSA #1 vs. WAC #1
MAC #2 vs. MWC #1
CUSA #2 vs. SBC #1

The differences between the 5 non-BCS conferences is slight if any. The MWC is a little stronger than the bunch and the SBC is a little bit weaker.

there is no way that the MAC 1 is anywhere close to MWC 2

lets look at last year's conf winners and runner ups...

MAC
W- Buffalo
R- Ball St

MWC
W- Utah(BCS)
R- TCU
2R- BYU

WAC
W- Boise St.
R- LA Tech

CUSA
W- ECU
R- Tulsa

SBC
W- Troy
R- ULL

do you reall think ball state would be able to hang with BYU? they were blasted by Tulsa

Face it MAC = SBC not better, maybe a little worse, really.
And WAC < CUSA < MWC

For the immediate future CUSA and the MWC will be the 2 best NBCS conferences with the WAC not too far behind; the MAC and SBC will continue languishing far behind duking it out to not be the worst conference.

Now for the best bowl matches

ECU vs TCU
Boise St. vs BYU
Buffalo vs Troy or Rice

(09-04-2009 01:09 PM)mufanatehc Wrote: [ -> ]there is no way that the MAC 1 is anywhere close to MWC 2

lets look at last year's conf winners and runner ups...

MAC
W- Buffalo
R- Ball St

MWC
W- Utah(BCS)
R- TCU
2R- BYU

WAC
W- Boise St.
R- LA Tech

CUSA
W- ECU
R- Tulsa

SBC
W- Troy
R- ULL

do you reall think ball state would be able to hang with BYU? they were blasted by Tulsa

Face it MAC = SBC not better, maybe a little worse, really.
And WAC < CUSA < MWC

For the immediate future CUSA and the MWC will be the 2 best NBCS conferences with the WAC not too far behind; the MAC and SBC will continue languishing far behind duking it out to not be the worst conference.

Now for the best bowl matches

ECU vs TCU
Boise St. vs BYU
Buffalo vs Troy or Rice

Then I guess you must think there are great distinctions in the level of play between the BCS conferences.....for all intents and purposes they are pretty much the same, with the Big East a little weaker.

I do

if BCS games were in a tier system than you would be less likely to see blow outs

BCS Championship- 1 vs 2

Rose- Pac 10, Big Ten, they are pretty much equal as conferences, heavy on top and week on the bottom

Sugar, SEC, Big 12, they are the top 2 conferences, even though the B12 is a few steps behind this would still be a competitive match

Orange, ACC, BE, the 2 weaker BCS conferences, It would be a good match, however, the ACC is a step or 2 ahead of the BE.

Fiesta- At large, at large, should be a good match, this is where a NBCS team would go if they qualified

Not only is this set up to improve competition, but also geography (excluding the B10 for tradition and the At larges in some cases)

(09-04-2009 03:43 PM)mufanatehc Wrote: [ -> ]I do

if BCS games were in a tier system than you would be less likely to see blow outs

BCS Championship- 1 vs 2

Rose- Pac 10, Big Ten, they are pretty much equal as conferences, heavy on top and week on the bottom

Sugar, SEC, Big 12, they are the top 2 conferences, even though the B12 is a few steps behind this would still be a competitive match

Orange, ACC, BE, the 2 weaker BCS conferences, It would be a good match, however, the ACC is a step or 2 ahead of the BE.

Fiesta- At large, at large, should be a good match, this is where a NBCS team would go if they qualified

Not only is this set up to improve competition, but also geography (excluding the B10 for tradition and the At larges in some cases)

I like the idea of bowl reform over a playoff myself. As it is there are too many games out there losing money.

Tier I
National Champ
Rose (PAC-10 vs. Big 10)
Cotton (Big Ten Champ)
Alamo
Fiesta (Notre Dame)
Sugar (SEC Champ)
Orange (ACC Champ)
Outback (Big East Champ

Tier II
Holiday
Las Vegas (MWC Champ)
Sun
Emerald (WAC Champ)
Liberty (CUSA Champ)
GMAC (SBC Champ)
Music City (MAC Champ)
Gator

The way it would work is this:

Schools would be ranked 1 through 32 by the BCS standings. The top 2 schools would play in a national championship. The remaining bowls would be divided into 2 tiers.

Tier I games would be played by the champs of the Big East, ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, SEC, PAC10 and at-large candidates ranked 1 through 16. If for example the ACC Champion finishes below the top 16, they'll be dropped for that particular season to a second tier bowl. Any Tier II conference schools that finish in the top 16 will automatically pick up a Tier I bowl.

Tier II games would be played by the champs of the MWC, CUSA, MAC, WAC, SBC and at-large candidates ranked 17 through 32. If for example the SBC Champion finshes below the top 32 they will still have at a minimum a Tier II bowl. If a Tier II champion finishes in the top 16 they would vacate their Tier II slot for another conference.

Payouts:
National Champ game (20 million)
Tier I Bowls (10 million)
Tier II Bowls (2.5 million)

Conferences then share revenue units that accumulate for each bowl participated. Let say 32 schools participate in the post season and 25 are Tier I and they earn 25 units. Each unit will be worth 1 million dollars and rollover for 5 years.

Taking for example for the MAC after a 5 year period would with only 1 participant in this system annually would be earning the following:

Music City Bowl (2.5 million)
5 units worth 1 mil each (5 million)
Total 7.5 million a year minus expenses of sending a team to Nashville every year.

The MAC of course could earn more by placing extra schools in the top 32 of the BCS standings.

No one cares.