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Fanhouse.com has CMD as a top 5 candidate for job. Couldn't tell if he's going after it, they're coming after him or just the opinion of the writer.

They can have him, wouldn't be our problem anymore

wht exactly has he done to get talked about in the washington st job and the usc job

I think with the washington State job, he had a past connection to someone in the AD office that got him consideration.

As for as USC, he is probably one of the few coaches who would be willing to abandon their current school for a new job at this late a date.

Okay since no one else will I take the reigns. This is USC. It is in a hotbed for basketball talent. It has the football program as a tentpole to use for recruiting. Yes it has to compete against UCLA but USC can hold its own. And they play in the PAC 10. Any coach that is willing to live through the sanctions that USC is sure to get will be giving time to rebuild. This is a perfect situation for Mike Davis and he would be crazy not to take the job if he was offered.

Another thing we probably would not have to worry about is players leaving with Davis. Maybe one or possibly two may consider it but I seriously doubt it would be anymore than that. I think it would be a win-win for both parties.

(06-20-2009 11:09 AM)BlazerRod Wrote: [ -> ]Okay since no one else will I take the reigns. This is USC. It is in a hotbed for basketball talent. It has the football program as a tentpole to use for recruiting. Yes it has to compete against UCLA but USC can hold its own. And they play in the PAC 10. Any coach that is willing to live through the sanctions that USC is sure to get will be giving time to rebuild. This is a perfect situation for Mike Davis and he would be crazy not to take the job if he was offered.

Another thing we probably would not have to worry about is players leaving with Davis. Maybe one or possibly two may consider it but I seriously doubt it would be anymore than that. I think it would be a win-win for both parties.

No one is questioning why Davis would take the job. The original question is why USC would take Davis.

I seriously doubt he gets serious consideration from any school about to go on probation or is in hot water with the NCAA. The academic problems at UAB probably makes him a bad choice in that situation. This is nothing more than some columnist filling space with uninformed opinions.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story...NHeadlines

not so much

well darn

(06-20-2009 11:41 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2009 11:09 AM)BlazerRod Wrote: [ -> ]Okay since no one else will I take the reigns. This is USC. It is in a hotbed for basketball talent. It has the football program as a tentpole to use for recruiting. Yes it has to compete against UCLA but USC can hold its own. And they play in the PAC 10. Any coach that is willing to live through the sanctions that USC is sure to get will be giving time to rebuild. This is a perfect situation for Mike Davis and he would be crazy not to take the job if he was offered.

Another thing we probably would not have to worry about is players leaving with Davis. Maybe one or possibly two may consider it but I seriously doubt it would be anymore than that. I think it would be a win-win for both parties.

No one is questioning why Davis would take the job. The original question is why USC would take Davis.

I seriously doubt he gets serious consideration from any school about to go on probation or is in hot water with the NCAA. The academic problems at UAB probably makes him a bad choice in that situation. This is nothing more than some columnist filling space with uninformed opinions.

Because for the same reasons you just mention. They are about to go on probation and will have a difficult time finding a decent coach willing to put himself in that situation. The academic problems at UAB while serious for us fans hasn't even registered on a national level so USC would be unfazed and have nothing to lose by hiring him.

Davis isn't under any investigations and his name still carry a little weight in the college basketball circles. And USC is probably thinking Davis can recruit better at in Cali than UAB. He definitely recruited better at IU than his tenure so far at UAB.

Well so much for this discussion.

Well I would understand more if CMD tenure here was horrible but the man has a winning record here. Yes the crap last year was a little hard to take but other than that I think it hasn't been that bad of a deal for us. Let's wait and see how he performs this year and then the picture will be much clearer.

(06-20-2009 01:51 PM)kdblazer Wrote: [ -> ]Well I would understand more if CMD tenure here was horrible but the man has a winning record here. Yes the crap last year was a little hard to take but other than that I think it hasn't been that bad of a deal for us. Let's wait and see how he performs this year and then the picture will be much clearer.

It's not just about wins, especially in a weak CUSA conference. I judge a coach by postseason success, not wins, because anyone can pad that. We have not been to the NCAA tournament under Davis, despite having excellent players especially last year.

Davis has stated himself that it takes a while for players to adapt to his system. With so many new players coming in next year, I have no expectations that we will have a winning record, much less post season play.

(06-20-2009 02:05 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2009 01:51 PM)kdblazer Wrote: [ -> ]Well I would understand more if CMD tenure here was horrible but the man has a winning record here. Yes the crap last year was a little hard to take but other than that I think it hasn't been that bad of a deal for us. Let's wait and see how he performs this year and then the picture will be much clearer.

It's not just about wins, especially in a weak CUSA conference. I judge a coach by postseason success, not wins, because anyone can pad that. We have not been to the NCAA tournament under Davis, despite having excellent players especially last year.

Davis has stated himself that it takes a while for players to adapt to his system. With so many new players coming in next year, I have no expectations that we will have a winning record, much less post season play.

Well ok thats fair. So why don't wait until the end of next season before we pull the carpet of support from under CMD. As for NCAA postseason play, we were screwed I know at least one of the last two years. CMA and CMB had the benifit of the old CUSA with all the basketball powerhouse teams and therefore winning 20 games worked in our favor.

(06-20-2009 02:24 PM)kdblazer Wrote: [ -> ]Well ok thats fair. So why don't wait until the end of next season before we pull the carpet of support from under CMD. As for NCAA postseason play, we were screwed I know at least one of the last two years. CMA and CMB had the benifit of the old CUSA with all the basketball powerhouse teams and therefore winning 20 games worked in our favor.

You're a little late for that. There is no carpet of support. The floor beneath him is bare. We will never move forward until he is gone.

(06-20-2009 02:34 PM)LPDragon Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2009 02:24 PM)kdblazer Wrote: [ -> ]Well ok thats fair. So why don't wait until the end of next season before we pull the carpet of support from under CMD. As for NCAA postseason play, we were screwed I know at least one of the last two years. CMA and CMB had the benifit of the old CUSA with all the basketball powerhouse teams and therefore winning 20 games worked in our favor.

You're a little late for that. There is no carpet of support. The floor beneath him is bare. We will never move forward until he is gone.

Just be careful what you wish for...you might get it.
Finding coaching gems like CMA is very hard and unusual. I dare say it wont happen at UAB for sometime to come especially at the initial contract we provided him which was around 175k.

(06-20-2009 02:24 PM)kdblazer Wrote: [ -> ]So why don't wait until the end of next season before we pull the carpet of support from under CMD. As for NCAA postseason play, we were screwed I know at least one of the last two years. CMA and CMB had the benifit of the old CUSA with all the basketball powerhouse teams and therefore winning 20 games worked in our favor.

So just how many years are you willing to give him? 10??? 20????
We have given him three years. Even Murry got us to a tournament in year three. We were told in 2006 that 2007 was the year. We were told in 2007 that 2008 was the year. We were told in 2008 that 2009 was the year. Now even Davis knows we won't believe that lie again.

And we have not been robbed of NCAA postseason play in any year that Davis has coached. Had we earned it, we would have been invited. And in the last two years, we have played a schedule good enough, despite a weak conference to make the tournament, but we did not win the games we were supposed to win.

(06-20-2009 12:08 PM)BatesUAB Wrote: [ -> ]http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story...NHeadlines

not so much

Like the choice made by Wash. St.(signing the Portland State coach), this was a west coast guy (Arizona) familiar with the west coast recruiting base. Davis's name probably popped up through the efforts of his agent rather than his own. Agents like to get their client's name "out there" so that other schools see them and have the name recognition for the future.

West Coast guy? O'Neill's from upstate NY, played college ball at McGill in Montreal, and coached Marquette, Tennessee and Northwestern.

I will agree that If I were on the selection committee I most likely would not have selected UAB the last two seasons. That being said, based on some of the teams that did get in over UAB, UAB did get screwed somewhat.

Mackin & Garrison are giving Davis two more seasons from what we understand. He needs to make at least the NIT this season and the NCAA the next and have no further APR casualties other than what we are stuck with (Mayfield) unless there is a miracle. After two seasons if we do ax him it won't be as big a blow contract wise. There is also the possibility Davis has learned some hard lessons and will turn things around.

BTW we are still going to sign another player or two so Marsh is not done recruiting.

(06-20-2009 02:05 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-20-2009 01:51 PM)kdblazer Wrote: [ -> ]Well I would understand more if CMD tenure here was horrible but the man has a winning record here. Yes the crap last year was a little hard to take but other than that I think it hasn't been that bad of a deal for us. Let's wait and see how he performs this year and then the picture will be much clearer.

It's not just about wins, especially in a weak CUSA conference. I judge a coach by postseason success, not wins, because anyone can pad that. We have not been to the NCAA tournament under Davis, despite having excellent players especially last year.

Davis has stated himself that it takes a while for players to adapt to his system. With so many new players coming in next year, I have no expectations that we will have a winning record, much less post season play.

MB- I see your rationale. However, a good teacher (coach) finds what his students (players) are really good at, and the coach adapts to the learning style of the players. This is why Mike Davis, in my opinion, is not a good coach. He will not adapt his style to fit the abilities of his team. This is a basic teaching philosophy that any good teacher (coach) should live by.