I dont think UB fits the academic profile
(06-03-2009 04:48 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]I dont think UB fits the academic profile
What makes you say that? I think they're the closest school the MAC has to the Big Ten academically.
UB has really strong academics.
However, BT will not take a 'speculative' pick. They want a proven school which has won big in BCS competition. The MAC can afford to take a chance of a school trying to move up. BT won't.
Hell, BT fans weren't happy to add Penn. State hoops which wasn't considered BT caliber.
UB would need a ton of money to build a 60K stadium and a 12K arena.
The Big Ten wants Notre Dame and nobody else.
-Dan
(06-03-2009 06:22 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]UB has really strong academics.
Really strong? I dont know about that...
Pittsburgh, West Virginia & Syracuse called...
(06-03-2009 08:38 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-03-2009 06:22 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]UB has really strong academics.
Really strong? I dont know about that...
Stronger than Temple's, I can tell you that much.
It varies from program to program, but I'd go as far as to say UB has better academics than almost every MAC school with the exception of Miami.
2009 US News Ranking:
Top Tier US Universities-
#66 Miami U
#116 Ohio U
#121 University of Buffalo
Actually, UB is an excellent research school and is even a member of the Association of American Universities. JHG is either ignorant or just trying to stir the pot.
(06-03-2009 08:11 PM)Photodan Wrote: [ -> ]The Big Ten wants Notre Dame and nobody else.
-Dan
JoePa doesn't. And the Big 10 rejected them years ago based on academics, primarily lack of graduate/research programs.
(06-04-2009 06:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]2009 US News Ranking:
Top Tier US Universities-
#66 Miami U
#116 Ohio U
#121 University of Buffalo
Point taken.
Regardless, I won't admit that Temple is even in UB's league. Temple will forever be stuck in the depth of tiers 3 and 4 with Kent State and Akron.
Quote:JHG is either ignorant or just trying to stir the pot.
Yeah, I know.
(06-04-2009 07:40 AM)DrTorch Wrote: [ -> ] (06-03-2009 08:11 PM)Photodan Wrote: [ -> ]The Big Ten wants Notre Dame and nobody else.
-Dan
JoePa doesn't. And the Big 10 rejected them years ago based on academics, primarily lack of graduate/research programs.
Yeah, the Big Ten didn't want an institution ranked every year in the Top 25 of the US News Rankings. Sure.
The reality is that ND dumped the Big Ten at the altar, otherwise known as the Trustee's meeting.
(06-04-2009 07:39 AM)IULurker Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, UB is an excellent research school and is even a member of the Association of American Universities. JHG is either ignorant or just trying to stir the pot.
UB is an excellent school, but it's not better than Temple. the AAU is a big scam regardless.
(06-04-2009 10:56 AM)ksu sucks Wrote: [ -> ] (06-04-2009 06:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]2009 US News Ranking:
Top Tier US Universities-
#66 Miami U
#116 Ohio U
#121 University of Buffalo
Point taken.
Regardless, I won't admit that Temple is even in UB's league. Temple will forever be stuck in the depth of tiers 3 and 4 with Kent State and Akron.
Quote:JHG is either ignorant or just trying to stir the pot.
Yeah, I know.
Not in UB's league? That's a joke. And if you think Temple is a tier 3 school, then you clearly know nothing about Temple. If you want to get specific, Temple is tied for the next ranked school with UCF in the US News Rankings, which are garbage anyway.
(06-04-2009 01:36 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-04-2009 07:39 AM)IULurker Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, UB is an excellent research school and is even a member of the Association of American Universities. JHG is either ignorant or just trying to stir the pot.
UB is an excellent school, but it's not better than Temple. the AAU is a big scam regardless.
Please find me, somewhere (
anywhere), any rankings for university-wide academics or research which places Temple above UB. I will be interested to see what you will find.
BTW, I am not a UB fan, but when somebody says something so utterly preposterous I just have to chime in.
(06-04-2009 01:36 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]UB is an excellent school, but it's not better than Temple. the AAU is a big scam regardless.
Haha. I'm pretty confident you're just stirring the pot now.
Quote:Not in UB's league? That's a joke. And if you think Temple is a tier 3 school, then you clearly know nothing about Temple. If you want to get specific, Temple is tied for the next ranked school with UCF in the US News Rankings, which are garbage anyway.
This is kind of a stupid argument, but I'll finish it off.
Listen, Temple is a great university, don't get me wrong. But you're being narrow minded. I for one don't put any faith in the USNWR Rankings, but from what I can see Temple is a
Teir 3 institution. That's nothing to be ashamed of. It's more than I can say for Akron.
Heres the link
Now, unless I'm missing something, this puts Temple far below UB(Tier 1) in terms of academics. But if I am mistaken, please, do enlighten me.
(06-04-2009 02:28 PM)IULurker Wrote: [ -> ] (06-04-2009 01:36 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-04-2009 07:39 AM)IULurker Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, UB is an excellent research school and is even a member of the Association of American Universities. JHG is either ignorant or just trying to stir the pot.
UB is an excellent school, but it's not better than Temple. the AAU is a big scam regardless.
Please find me, somewhere (anywhere), any rankings for university-wide academics or research which places Temple above UB. I will be interested to see what you will find.
BTW, I am not a UB fan, but when somebody says something so utterly preposterous I just have to chime in.
So arbitrary rankings are the end all be all of what dictates the quality of a university? I dont put much faith in the silly rankings. Certain stuff weighed in one direction hurts one university and helps another. There's a news story about how Clemson fudged a bunch of numbers and trashed other schools in order to move up in the US News rankings. IU is a great school too, with a fantastic business school, music school, journalism school, etc. Is it in an entire league ahead of Temple? I dont think so. Is UB? No way.
Btw, I was very close to attending IU.
(06-04-2009 02:56 PM)ksu sucks Wrote: [ -> ] (06-04-2009 01:36 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]UB is an excellent school, but it's not better than Temple. the AAU is a big scam regardless.
Haha. I'm pretty confident you're just stirring the pot now.
Quote:Not in UB's league? That's a joke. And if you think Temple is a tier 3 school, then you clearly know nothing about Temple. If you want to get specific, Temple is tied for the next ranked school with UCF in the US News Rankings, which are garbage anyway.
This is kind of a stupid argument, but I'll finish it off.
Listen, Temple is a great university, don't get me wrong. But you're being narrow minded. I for one don't put any faith in the USNWR Rankings, but from what I can see Temple is a Teir 3 institution. That's nothing to be ashamed of. It's more than I can say for Akron.
Heres the link
Now, unless I'm missing something, this puts Temple far below UB(Tier 1) in terms of academics. But if I am mistaken, please, do enlighten me.
Temple isn't 'far' below UB according to the silly rankings. UB is 121. Temple is tied with UCF at either 131 or 134.
Btw, I dont know what a 'teir' is...
(06-04-2009 05:32 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-04-2009 02:56 PM)ksu sucks Wrote: [ -> ] (06-04-2009 01:36 PM)JHG722 Wrote: [ -> ]UB is an excellent school, but it's not better than Temple. the AAU is a big scam regardless.
Haha. I'm pretty confident you're just stirring the pot now.
Quote:Not in UB's league? That's a joke. And if you think Temple is a tier 3 school, then you clearly know nothing about Temple. If you want to get specific, Temple is tied for the next ranked school with UCF in the US News Rankings, which are garbage anyway.
This is kind of a stupid argument, but I'll finish it off.
Listen, Temple is a great university, don't get me wrong. But you're being narrow minded. I for one don't put any faith in the USNWR Rankings, but from what I can see Temple is a Teir 3 institution. That's nothing to be ashamed of. It's more than I can say for Akron.
Heres the link
Now, unless I'm missing something, this puts Temple far below UB(Tier 1) in terms of academics. But if I am mistaken, please, do enlighten me.
Temple isn't 'far' below UB according to the silly rankings. UB is 121. Temple is tied with UCF at either 131 or 134.
Btw, I dont know what a 'teir' is...
'Teir' is a Faroese pronoun.