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IMO, I'm not worried since PAL Safeguards are on their primary "physics packages" and the primary is kept separate from the rest of the nuclear weapon. Plus JSOC will probably pull a "snatch and grab" if it looks like the place will go to Hell.


The United States has a detailed plan for infiltrating Pakistan and securing its mobile arsenal of nuclear warheads if it appears the country is about to fall under the control of the Taliban, Al Qaeda or other Islamic extremists.

American intelligence sources say the operation would be conducted by Joint Special Operations Command, the super-secret commando unit headquartered at Fort Bragg, N.C.

JSOC is the military's chief terrorists hunting squad and has units now operating in Afghanistan on Pakistan's western border. But a secondary mission is to secure foreign nuclear arsenals -- a role for which JSOC operatives have trained in Nevada.

The mission has taken on added importance in recent months, as Islamic extremists have taken territory close to the capital of Islamabad and could destabilize Pakistan's shaky democracy.

"We have plans to secure them ourselves if things get out of hand," said a U.S. intelligence source who has deployed to Afghanistan. "That is a big secondary mission for JSOC in Afghanistan."

The source said JSOC has been updating its mission plan for the day President Obama gives the order to infiltrate Pakistan.

"Small units could seize them, disable them and then centralize them in a secure location," the source said.

A secret Defense Intelligence Agency document first disclosed in 2004 said Pakistan has a nuclear arsenal of 35 weapons. The document said it plans to more than double the arsenal by 2020.

A Pakistani official said the U.S. and his country have had an understanding that if either Usama bin Laden, or his deputy, Ayman Zawahiri, is located, American troops and air strikes may be used inside borders to capture or kill them.

What makes the Pakistan mission especially difficult is that the military has its missiles on Soviet-style mobile launchers and rail lines. U.S. intelligence agencies, using satellite photos and communication intercepts, is constantly monitoring their whereabouts. Other warheads are kept in storage. U.S. technical experts have visited Pakistan to advise the government on how to maintain and protect its arsenal.

Also, there are rogue elements inside Pakistan's military and intelligence service who could quickly side with the extremists and make JSOC's mission all the more difficult.

"It's relatively easy to track rail-mounted ones with satellites," said the intelligence source. "Truck- mounted are more difficult. However, they are all relatively close to the capital in areas that the government firmly controls so we don't have to look too far."

JSOC is made up of three main elements: Army Delta Force, Navy SEALs and a high-tech special intelligence unit known as Task Force Orange. JSOC was instrumental in Iraq in finding and killing Abu Musab Zarqawi, the deadly and most prominent Al Qaeda leader in the Middle East.

There is speculation in the intelligence community that a secondary reason for Army Lt. Gen. Stanley McChrystal being named the next commander in Afghanistan is that he headed JSOC in 2006-08 and is read-in on its contingency missions in Pakistan.

Adm. Michael Mullen, Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, this month said that based on the information he has seen Pakistan's nuclear warheads are safe.

"I remain comfortable that the nuclear weapons in Pakistan are secure, that the Pakistani leadership and in particular the military is very focused on this," he said. "We the United States have invested fairly significantly over the last three years, to work with them, to improve that security. And we're satisfied, very satisfied with that progress. We will continue to do that. And we all recognize obviously the worst downside of -- with respect to Pakistan is that those nuclear weapons come under the control of terrorists. "

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/...g-taliban/
As a republican I have to be VERY affraid because Rush and the Dick told me to be scared of the big bad world. The Paki's are going to kill us all!
(05-18-2009 01:24 AM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ]As a republican I have to be VERY affraid because Rush and the Dick told me to be scared of the big bad world. The Paki's are going to kill us all!

Boy does anything cause you to ever see any "Clear and Present Danger" ???

Or do you just lull your life away in some la la land state of mind where Flowers Bloom in the Snow and Butterflies talk to you as they flutter by ???

These are not North Korean half-ass Nukes that are sitting in Pakistan and the country is in a world of hurt right now.

Obama has appeased him self into Karzai dissing him like he is some 2nd Rate Noob and Pakistan's President Asif Ali Zardari being a snotty brat and accusing the United States of creating Osama Bin Laden and having him on the United States Payroll !!!!!

Now little boy, if you don't see some need for a bit of a pucker factor in this kind of super jump the ally ship dissension, you need Psychiatric help double quick ....

Since YOUR POTUS has taken office, what was pretty stable in the Middle East War Theaters, has went to pure sh't about as fast as it could and it is because Brother Obama is WEAK and these people, these Life Long Warriors are taking full advantage of this Weakness to open up huge cans of "whup-ass" in the region.

NUKES + Taliban + Al Qaeda there Robert !!!!!! Nukes that CAN FLY to places all over the place and hit what they are aimed at.

But just change the channel back to the Cartoon Network and all will be right and rosie.

UNREAL that people like you actually exist .... 01-wingedeagle 01-wingedeagle 01-wingedeagle

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(05-18-2009 01:47 AM)Tripster Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-18-2009 01:24 AM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ]As a republican I have to be VERY affraid because Rush and the Dick told me to be scared of the big bad world. The Paki's are going to kill us all!

Boy does anything cause you to ever see any "Clear and Present Danger" ???

Or do you just lull your life away in some la la land state of mind where Flowers Bloom in the Snow and Butterflies talk to you as they flutter by ???

These are not North Korean half-ass Nukes that are sitting in Pakistan and the country is in a world of hurt right now.

Obama has appeased him self into Karzai dissing him like he is some 2nd Rate Noob and Pakistan's President Asif Ali Zardari being a snotty brat and accusing the United States of creating Osama Bin Laden and having him on the United States Payroll !!!!!

Now little boy, if you don't see some need for a bit of a pucker factor in this kind of super jump the ally ship dissension, you need Psychiatric help double quick ....

Since YOUR POTUS has taken office, what was pretty stable in the Middle East War Theaters, has went to pure sh't about as fast as it could and it is because Brother Obama is WEAK and these people, these Life Long Warriors are taking full advantage of this Weakness to open up huge cans of "whup-ass" in the region.

NUKES + Taliban + Al Qaeda there Robert !!!!!! Nukes that CAN FLY to places all over the place and hit what they are aimed at.

But just change the channel back to the Cartoon Network and all will be right and rosie.

UNREAL that people like you actually exist .... 01-wingedeagle 01-wingedeagle 01-wingedeagle

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I just don't spend my entire day worrying about everything that happens. I think that our intelligence is up to the test but if something does happen and I am in the area an attack happens, it is just fate. As for Pakistan's leader, I don't know if he is snotty but he definately has a good case for us creating Osama(though not totally). The mid-East was relatively stable when Obama took over? What the hell havre you been smoking? Yeah, Obama is weak because we didn't just go in and invade a third ME country. Btw, the Taliban was taking over portions of Pakistan BEFORE Bush left office.
I would imagine that every intel agency from Albania to Zimbabwe has eyes open to this possible threat, and are probably working closely together to ensure a quick recovery of any missing missiles.

OK probably not Albania and Zimbabwe, but every intel agency in the Western world, many portions of the ME, and certainly our friends in India.
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