Obviously, there is a lot of good coaches in college football, but who would you all say is the best??
I think the top 3 are Urban Meyer, Pete Carroll, and Nick Saban right now. Mack Brown and Jim Tressel are right on their heals.
If I had to pick one though, I know he is probably the most hated, but I'd have to go with Urban Meyer. Not sure why honestly..haha..with Carroll's record probably being the best, but that is probably who I would go with.
Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech. He's done more with less at more than one place.
(01-05-2009 12:37 AM)DesertBronco Wrote: [ -> ]Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech. He's done more with less at more than one place.
I like him, he is good, but time will tell on him. I think Mike Leach has done a great job at a school that isn't a traditional every year contender.
(01-05-2009 01:49 AM)bronco5 Wrote: [ -> ]Brian Kelly.
Put me down for a Paul Johnson vote. He has won at Georgia Southern, Navy (they were horrible when he got there), and GA Tech. Unlike RR, he got his team turned around in one year with an entirely different offense than his players were used to running.
There are a few guys who have done a good job at different levels. I think fit is everything. The coaches that have done well everywhere, generally did a good job choosing what jobs they take. Meyer is a great coach, and would likely do well anywhere; but he has also had the opportunity to jump into good situations at Utah and Florida. Still, he would probably get my vote as the best in college football.
I must say, though, I am very happy with our guy!
No kidding, I still am shaking my head at the way he turned this mess around and at the same time has focused on character, quality kids, and the whole student athlete experience. Really looking forward to the future.
I'd say that our guy "fits" pretty well at WMU.
I don't know if I could even rank a top five in college at this point. What's the criteria? Strictly wins? Wins in the past two years? Past 5? 10? Career? Mythical national championships?
There are some, as have been pointed out, that are able to achieve success in challenging situations, doing more with less. There are some that are consistently successful in places that have a lot of advantages built in like Pete Carroll and Urban. Of course, they were good coaches before they arrived in those locations. Doesn't mean I necessarily like them or their tactics, sometimes.
Then there are coaches that I didn't consider great coaches until they made a "lateral" move and ended up in college football nirvana, like Mack Brown at Texas. We also see "program builders" that get the thing to a high level but can not get them over the hump to true greatness. Then there are guys like Beamer, who consistently have good teams. There are some that build great mid-major programs and then move up, only to find it is not so easy at the top level. Think Gary Pinkel's great run at Toledo and now at Missouri.
An interesting discussion, for sure.
Jim Tressel is one of the top five.
Paul Johnson and Mike Leech both run complicated offenses and they don't use call sheets. Both take notes during the game, but no one else in college football can call their whole offense off the top of their head. Both coaches also have had to work with less talent than most of the teams they play.
Urban was a little like Brian Kelly for a while because he did not stay in one place long enough for his recruits to take hold. not that any of the places suffered.
(01-05-2009 06:54 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote: [ -> ]Paul Johnson and Mike Leech both run complicated offenses and they don't use call sheets. Both take notes during the game, but no one else in college football can call their whole offense off the top of their head. Both coaches also have had to work with less talent than most of the teams they play.
Urban was a little like Brian Kelly for a while because he did not stay in one place long enough for his recruits to take hold. not that any of the places suffered.
PJ complicated? C'mon, kimbo - Inside Veer at the one tech, Midline at the three; Post-Wheel when secondary's cheating. How hard is that? :D
As for Leach, if you study the "Air Raid", they have only six basic passing plays ("concepts") they run from multiple formations. Appears complicated, difficult to defend, not as hard to excute as it looks to a casual observer.
Mack Brown. Only because I want Texas to throttle OSU tonight.
(01-05-2009 06:54 PM)Kimbosucks Wrote: [ -> ]Paul Johnson and Mike Leech both run complicated offenses and they don't use call sheets. Both take notes during the game, but no one else in college football can call their whole offense off the top of their head. Both coaches also have had to work with less talent than most of the teams they play.
Urban was a little like Brian Kelly for a while because he did not stay in one place long enough for his recruits to take hold. not that any of the places suffered.
Great call Kimbosucks. I really like Leech. Who ever thought Texas Tech would ever be in the running for a national championship before Leech? Tech faded late, but he has built something out of nothing there. And I love that offense.
Why don't we have a Playoff to decide which coach is best?
(01-05-2009 08:31 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote: [ -> ]Why don't we have a Playoff to decide which coach is best?
You want some more of that? Bring it on! I promise I wont throw anymore distasteful geriatric jokes in your direction. But I will challenge your frequently faulty reasoning. Looser buys the winner beer. Since you will be buying, I will let you choose the bar (in my town, of course).