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Give Zimpher the credit

By Paul Daugherty • pdaugherty@enquirer.com • December 29, 2008


Nancy Zimpher was on the road somewhere, hanging out in the hotel bar, club sandwich at one elbow, big beer at the other, yelling at the television. Game updates crawled across the bottom of the screen. She wanted a score from the UC-West Virginia football game. What a fan.
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Well, OK. Maybe she wasn’t at the bar. Certainly not hanging out. University presidents aren’t likely to hang, unless the Chronicle of Higher Education is involved. But the president of the University of Cincinnati was in a hotel, watching one college football game to monitor the progress of another.

The Bearcats were leading 20-7, very late in the game. “At one minute, 18 seconds (to play), you shouldn’t be worried,’’ Zimpher said recently. She stayed with the TV, even after UC had won in overtime. “I had to watch the postgame show,’’ Zimpher explained.

Some still would judge the UC president on how she handled Bob Huggins’ mutually agreed-upon departure. These are the folks who booed Zimpher’s appearance on the court at the Crosstown Shootout earlier this month.

“For some people I guess that will always be their issue,’’ she said. “I have a job to do, I have to move on. Out of respect for (current UC basketball coach) Mick Cronin, they should move on.’’

That’s right, isn’t it? The Huggs-Zim 15-rounder was great theatre for some of us. For the university, it affirmed a fundamental truth: In a fight between a school president and a basketball coach, the president has to win, every time, lest the place become Sneaker U. Agreed? If there isn’t a statute of limitations on grudges, there should be.

Zimpher hired Mike Thomas who hired Brian Kelly, who has UC in the Orange Bowl on Thursday night, a feat as likely as orange trees growing on Ludlow. She was fundamental to UC’s admission to the Big East, because she saw the league as something greater than Big Monday.

Zimpher and then-athletic director Bob Goin interviewed with the presidents of Pitt and West Virginia. Goin had prepared information describing UC and its athletic programs, but the interviewers were more interested in the school’s academic aspirations. “I found that very interesting,’’ Zimpher said.

“For us, it was a process of raising the bar across the board. Since entering the Big East, we have really expanded our recruitment profile,’’ she said. “There was a lot riding on the Big East, beyond what a fan would think.’’

You are judged by the company you keep. Memphis? Or Georgetown?

You can’t point to Big East membership as a definite reason for UC’s academic gains since 2003. But you do have to give Zimpher her due. Since ’03, the graduation rate is up 7 percent, research funding has never been higher, the school’s number of National Merit Scholars is up from 53 to 146 and enrollment is up almost 10 percent.

Zimpher is of the Ivory Tower, but not often in it. She was a member of her high school band in Gallipolis, she worked at Ohio State, where she was on the athletic council. The Buckeyes have the biggest quasi-amateur athletic budget in the country. You don’t have to be a fan to understand what sports mean at OSU.

Zimpher can be a bit of a wonk. She uses words like “paradigm’’ and “continuum.’’ It must be the academic version of having “good’’ success taking ‘em one game at a time.

I asked her about Thomas’ autonomy. “I think there’s a huge expectation on the part of the NCAA that presidents of universities are fully apprised of the array of issues facing their athletic programs,’’ she said. “My relationship with Mike Thomas is no different than my relationship with a dean or the provost. My expectation is that Mike will create the vision for his division.’’

She attended the only interview UC needed with Brian Kelly, and knew instantly that other candidates needn’t bother. “It’s never just one thing. You start out with a set of criteria: Track record, the ability to recruit and retain a staff, his record, his personality, his values,’’ Zimpher said. “All the way down to coaching style, which was an interesting place for me to find myself. I don’t know much about coaching style.’’

Kelly “has been in leadership roles where constancy of the message is important. The way he interacts with the community is extraordinary and greatly appreciated,’’ she said.

She’s also dealing with the cost of success, something Zimpher concedes was overwhelmed by the elation of the Big East invitation. Keeping football thriving while also resurrecting basketball ain’t cheap.

“It’s very helpful for any team thinking of moving up to have a very strong business plan. We had that (plan) post-admission rather than pre-admission,’’ Zimpher said. “It’s a work in progress.’’

She majored in English at Ohio State, where she became Dean of the College of Education. I asked her what she was reading now. “A self-study report for the University of Maine,’’ Zimpher said. Oh.

“I’m carrying around a pile of leadership books. I carry a little book (titled) Be My Guest’’ the Disney Co.’s take on customer service “to remind me to put students first.

“Right now I’m reading how Obama is putting together his cabinet,’’ she said.

She will be at the game Thursday night. Zimpher is a sports fan, but in the way a chef is a fan of spices. Zimpher assigns sports its place in the, um, continuum. It builds student morale, increases national recognition, helps alums feel good.

“There’s no exposure like athletic exposure to shine the spotlight on everything at an institution,’’ Zimpher allowed. “You need to be aspirational.’’
Let me see if I understand this. Dr. Zimpher watches a football game so PDoc brings up Huggins again?
(12-29-2008 04:33 PM)QSECOFR Wrote: [ -> ]Let me see if I understand this. Dr. Zimpher watches a football game so PDoc brings up Huggins again?

PDoc tells us to get over Huggs, when he can't. He tells us to get over Z and then runs a powder puff piece on her.
(12-29-2008 04:46 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-29-2008 04:33 PM)QSECOFR Wrote: [ -> ]Let me see if I understand this. Dr. Zimpher watches a football game so PDoc brings up Huggins again?

PDoc tells us to get over Huggs, when he can't. He tells us to get over Z and then runs a powder puff piece on her.


Exactly. What the hell is it with the Enquirer and PD and Koch, they always have to piss on the parade, either by disparaging articles (UC feasts on cupcakes...like Fla. St., Memphis, XU, Miss. St., UNLV), shoving Nancy down our throats and PD reminding us of Huggins so he can tell us to get over Huggins. The disconnect in his brain is amazing. You can be entirely over Huggins YET still think Nancy is a a turd, was clueless, naive, insert any other appropriate words. In his mind you have to embrace Nancy to truly get over/move on from Huggs??? I think not.
Over the years, I have come to the conclusion that PDoc just isn't that bright. He tries to cover it up by:

1) Acting bored all the time
2) Criticizing everyone
3) Telling his readers that they are idiots.
People upset over the Huggins situation will refuse to do so, but you have to give Zimpher a ton of credit. Her talking to WVU and Pitt's people down in Pittsburgh was a big part of us getting into the Big East. She was the one who hired Mike Thomas, who in turn hired Mick Cronin and Brian Kelly. She helped us raise the money for the indoor practice facility and, hopefully, the expansion of Nippert. She was the one that helped raise our academic to such a point that we're 17 spots away from being a Tier 1 program. Zimpher deserves a lot of credit.
So...

he has complained about students running onto the field, and not even talking about clinching the BCS...

and then bringing up this knowingly divisive issue on the eve of this great UC moment, win or lose...no matter how you feel (and I think she ignorantly self-administered her basketball program the death penalty) does it need to be brought up NOW?...

I have lambasted the Enquirer for only having one editorial sports voice for precisely this reason...PD has no one to push him in this town...he is the ONLY voice in the print media...pretty sad for our town...

Kansas City...similar town?

Jason Whitlock and Joe Posnanski, among others at the Star...

PD maybe afraid of that Gannett axe swinging his way?...smooch a little UC backside?...
(12-29-2008 04:15 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]Some still would judge the UC president on how she handled Bob Huggins’ mutually agreed-upon departure. These are the folks who booed Zimpher’s appearance on the court at the Crosstown Shootout earlier this month.

She never was on the court, she was mentioned via a speaker on the court, it was either Kelly or Thomas. Seriously, this is journalism at its worst. Why does he have to make stuff up? I guess as the WVU game gets closer, we'll see more of these stories.
NEVER!!!
Give her credit or not, the booing needs to stop.
Nancy Zimpher indeed deserves a lot of the credit. She and Bob Goin were the big factors in getting UC in the Big East, and UC having a football team, as obviously, no football team no Big East. Paul D is pretty much right on. I leave for the Orange Bowl tomorrow, something I could not have imagined would ever happen until UC got in the Big East. Thank you Nancy for your leadership that got UC to the Big East and me to the Orange Bowl.
OK some of the experts regarding timing please chime in. Kieth Starks told me a year before if was official that UC was going into the Big East (Zimpher was at Wis-Mil). The primary due diligence was done while Steger was the Prez, and Zimpher's role was the dog and pony show. UC was on the Big East's radar long before Zimpher was prez.
only 7 posts in...and a Ditzmer supporter
And I would boo her every time I get.





I just don't get the chance....
PDoc = One Trick Pony
More revisionist history appearing here...Giving Nancy credit for us getting us into the Big East!?!? This was in the works for a long time and Bob Goin deserves THE credit as does the old basketball coach that made us an attractive high profile hoops program to add to the league. I guess Nancy got all the buildings built too! None of that was in the works before her. Hell! While were at it let's give her credit for some of her other ideas, inventions, creations:
1) Invented the Bearcat using her scientific knowledge to genetics to breed a hybrid bear and cat,
2) Sculpted Mick and Mack out of volcanic rock which she herself compressed,
3) Invented the Internet and was the founder of NCAABBS.com,
4) Coming up with the rules for basketball in a small Kansas YMCA,
5) Founding the University and naming it after the City,
6) Inventing Universities.
7) Dying for our sins.
(12-29-2008 08:52 PM)Murph29 Wrote: [ -> ]More revisionist history appearing here...Giving Nancy credit for us getting us into the Big East!?!? This was in the works for a long time and Bob Goin deserves THE credit as does the old basketball coach that made us an attractive high profile hoops program to add to the league. I guess Nancy got all the buildings built too! None of that was in the works before her. Hell! While were at it let's give her credit for some of her other ideas, inventions, creations:
1) Invented the Bearcat using her scientific knowledge to genetics to breed a hybrid bear and cat,
2) Sculpted Mick and Mack out of volcanic rock which she herself compressed,
3) Invented the Internet and was the founder of NCAABBS.com,
4) Coming up with the rules for basketball in a small Kansas YMCA,
5) Founding the University and naming it after the City,
6) Inventing Universities.
7) Dying for our sins.

8) Sliced Bread
He forgot to give her credit for reminding pre-Z alumni that their degrees were worthless...
(12-29-2008 08:07 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ]OK some of the experts regarding timing please chime in. Kieth Starks told me a year before if was official that UC was going into the Big East (Zimpher was at Wis-Mil). The primary due diligence was done while Steger was the Prez, and Zimpher's role was the dog and pony show. UC was on the Big East's radar long before Zimpher was prez.

I think Zimpher deserves credit for Thomas and by extension Kelly and
Cronin. If Kelly stays I give her credit for pushing the envelope with facilities and buying into a coach and the athletic programs being worth that investment.

But she deserves NO credit for UC being in the big east. Huggins yes, Goin yes, Steger, yes. Zimpher NO.
Memphis 60
Cincinnati 45

Thanks Nancy!
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