Quote:Top Colombian drug trafficker extradited to US
BOGOTA (AFP) – Colombian drug trafficker Diego Montoya, whose cartel exported almost 70 percent of the cocaine sold in the United States and Europe, was extradited Friday to the United States on drug charges, a police source said.
"He has already departed. 'Don Diego' (Montoya's alias) is en route to the United States," a police spokesman told AFP, noting the jet had taken off around 1550 GMT.
"Colombia is closing a chapter in its fight against drug trafficking," police chief General Oscar Naranjo told reporters, adding: "This extradition is perhaps the most important in years."
Montoya led a crime ring that over the course of the 1990s gradually replaced the notorious Cali and Medellin cartels.
When he was arrested in 2007, according to Colombian authorities, he was behind 70 percent of cocaine exports to the United States and Europe and blamed for more than 1,500 murders.
In 2004 the US Federal Bureau of Investigation put Montoya on its most wanted list, and estimated he was behind 60 percent of the cocaine exported to the United States.
Now about 50, Montoya had been jailed at the high security correctional facility in Boyaca department.
Colombian authorities say that the extradition came as the price of cocaine in the United States is rising, and its level of purity is sharply down, due to what they say are more successful drug eradication efforts.
Hey, Fo Shizzle, wouldn't you feel better if this guy was set free? After all, if drugs were legal, he wouldn't have killed anyone, right? All he needs is an education.
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Shyte .... Extradition means "A Wake-Up & then Freedom Bird" here in "Feel Good Land".
HAPPY MOLECULES EVERYONE !!!!!!!
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BlazerFan11 Wrote:Quote:Top Colombian drug trafficker extradited to US
BOGOTA (AFP) – Colombian drug trafficker Diego Montoya, whose cartel exported almost 70 percent of the cocaine sold in the United States and Europe, was extradited Friday to the United States on drug charges, a police source said.
"He has already departed. 'Don Diego' (Montoya's alias) is en route to the United States," a police spokesman told AFP, noting the jet had taken off around 1550 GMT.
"Colombia is closing a chapter in its fight against drug trafficking," police chief General Oscar Naranjo told reporters, adding: "This extradition is perhaps the most important in years."
Montoya led a crime ring that over the course of the 1990s gradually replaced the notorious Cali and Medellin cartels.
When he was arrested in 2007, according to Colombian authorities, he was behind 70 percent of cocaine exports to the United States and Europe and blamed for more than 1,500 murders.
In 2004 the US Federal Bureau of Investigation put Montoya on its most wanted list, and estimated he was behind 60 percent of the cocaine exported to the United States.
Now about 50, Montoya had been jailed at the high security correctional facility in Boyaca department.
Colombian authorities say that the extradition came as the price of cocaine in the United States is rising, and its level of purity is sharply down, due to what they say are more successful drug eradication efforts.
Hey, Fo Shizzle, wouldn't you feel better if this guy was set free? After all, if drugs were legal, he wouldn't have killed anyone, right? All he needs is an education.
Of course not. I don't condone the initiation of force against anyone. Montoya is a murderer and should suffer the societal punishment for that crime.
As for your joke...that Montoya would not have ever killed anyone if drugs were legalized.....Well ....If ALL mind altering substances were legal to purchase in the free market...There would be not need for a black market and the associated violence that he was a part of.
The inflated price of street drugs is directly related to the RISK involved of getting the substance to the market.
Legalization of drugs would remove the RISK factor and thus reduce the cost of these substances....This would in turn reduce the crime associated with the drug trade....Users would be able to buy their drug of choice economically without having to result to property crimes to be able to afford them. The WAR ON DRUGS is a failure and will NEVER succeed.
Fo Shizzle Wrote:Legalization of drugs would remove the RISK factor and thus reduce the cost of these substances....This would in turn reduce the crime associated with the drug trade....
I don't think so. I think drugs that are more readily available would just create more addicts. I'm guessing there were a lot less alcoholics when booze was illegal than there are now.
smn1256 Wrote:Fo Shizzle Wrote:Legalization of drugs would remove the RISK factor and thus reduce the cost of these substances....This would in turn reduce the crime associated with the drug trade....
I don't think so. I think drugs that are more readily available would just create more addicts. I'm guessing there were a lot less alcoholics when booze was illegal than there are now.
Every major study of drug policy has failed to prove your assertion. In fact several European countries that have decriminalized drugs have seen a drop in drug use...not an increase.
While there will still be people that choose to abuse drugs...Education and treatment are simply a more cost effective method to attacking the problem. This "War on Drugs" has been a monumental failure. Drugs are readily available nationwide in the black market now despite billions upon billions of dollars wasted on the effort. Its really time to abandon this policy and try something else.
The high cost of black market drugs increases crime. Addicts resort to property crime to pay for their addictions. In a free market with competition, drug prices would decrease and reduce the need to resort to crime to afford paying for the drugs.
Holland is closing pot shops and brothals because of organized crime. It's been a disaster and they are finally admiting it. Tourist no longer want to visit, except those wanting drugs and whores. The criminals just don't say "oh, it's legal now. Let's close up shop and go home boys".
Fo Shizzle
You make valid points, but I just don't want legalization myself. Didn't even when I was young and doing everything under the sun. Jail shouldn't be the first stop, but you and I both know most don't want treatment. And education worked on me until I was about...., oh, 12.
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NO, these are NOT Valid Points ......
And here is the Simple Reason Why ....
The "Premise Is", that if we Legalize all drugs and just start dumping them on the streets, all Black Market Operations will Cease and Desist Immediately ...
Just look at all the "LEGAL STUFF" there is out there on United States Streets and in available quantity, and go try to find a Black Market Outlet for it ... AND YOU WILL FIND JUST THAT.
There is "always a need for the Black Market" somewhere in the World and turning the Dog's Loose in Our Streets is only going to bring the Shyte-Holes here same as good old Liberal Holland.
The "Dirt Bags" go where there is Freedom to Work and they set up shop to distribute to "Outlaw Nations", ANYTHING you can Dream Up or Want.
I can send you to 10 Web Sites right now that will send you Prescription Drugs for Triple the Drug Store Prices, without A Legal Prescription !!!!!
I mean if we can't even police Illegal Drug Web Sites, how on Earth are we going to be able to Police a Free United States Drug Trade ???
Right on the Money Paul ......
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Paul M Wrote:Holland is closing pot shops and brothals because of organized crime. It's been a disaster and they are finally admiting it. Tourist no longer want to visit, except those wanting drugs and whores. The criminals just don't say "oh, it's legal now. Let's close up shop and go home boys".
Exactly,
Fo Shizzle your full of it.
smn1256 Wrote:Fo Shizzle Wrote:Legalization of drugs would remove the RISK factor and thus reduce the cost of these substances....This would in turn reduce the crime associated with the drug trade....
I don't think so. I think drugs that are more readily available would just create more addicts. I'm guessing there were a lot less alcoholics when booze was illegal than there are now.
There were fewer alcholics because many were killed in mob shootouts.
I see we still have morons who ignore the lessons of history. This nation didn't learn sh!t from prohibition...
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OH SHEEZE !!!!!!
Another apologist give-away-to-poor-pitiful-me Liberal.
You have been Happily Molecule'dly Aborted, you Water Headed Fetus.
I just had one of your "Idiot Drugs Are Us Crack Baby", try to run over my Wife and Daughter today on PURPOSE .....
After a little Gun Play by Proxy and the Cops at my house for "2 Hours", I am waiting on a Cold Lonely Night for a 20 Year Old Convicted Felon to come to MY HOUSE WITH HIS PIECE OF SHYTE LITTLE .38 and KILL ME.
This is the S.O.B. that CAN NOT HANDLE ILLEGAL DRUGS and YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM ACCESS TO THE "CANDY COUNTER AFTER HOURS" ??????
Man what World do you live in where History saves My Wife and My Daughter from Idiots like him and Like You Wanting to Feed this Insane boy's Drug Habit ?????
OH I SEE ..... Drug Habit Welfare where I am taxed to Feed old boy's habit so he can run free on the Streets and Run Down my Wife and Child !!!!!!!!!
Man get a life or Tune In, Turn On, and Drop Out - - of a 10 Story Building !!!!!
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BlazerFan11 Wrote:Hey, Fo Shizzle, wouldn't you feel better if this guy was set free? After all, if drugs were legal, he wouldn't have killed anyone, right? All he needs is an education.
You can't SERIOUSLY be comparing the product of a ruthless black market to drug users and sellers in a non-illegal market? Have you even heard of the Netherlands? Been to a bar lately? Smoke?
Aint that the way things go Trip. Someone else f's up and the cops come to YOUR house.
Did they come to take your report or to tell you that you can't do anything, just to sit back and take the abuse of the asses in the world?
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Took our Reports, made put away my AR while they were here, went and talked to crack Baby and told him "They Know Me and I Am Going To Kill Him and I CAN BECAUSE HE THREATENED ALL OF USE WITH HIS CUTE LITTLE .38 over the Phone after Trying to Run Down my Family .....
We have to go the the Justice of the Peace and file the Warrants for Arrest - - this keeps the Cop's from 'Having to Provide Burden of Proof' when they were not there to Witness the Actual Event.
Next Door Neighbors saw the whole thing and the Man of the House is scared shyte-less and wouldn't talk to the Cop's ... made his Wife Shut Up and tell a B.S. story.
The Cop's fully understand and have signed off on me Killing Crack Baby's Fooked Up Azz when the Need Arises and Crack Baby has been Justly Warned of Same by the LAW OFFICERS.
You bunch of Spineless Puke Liberals Whore Mongers and YOUR sick twisted STUPIDITY of GIVING DRUGS AWAY FOR FREE to these Moron's !!!!!
Let one of them Aggravatedly Assault YOUR FAMILY and LET ME SEE YOU INVITE HIM TO CHRISTMAS DINNER !!!!!!!!!
OH NO !!!!! I SAD THE "C" WORD AGAIN !!!!!!!!!
Little Turd is out on Probation RIGHT NOW !!!!! And working his Sentence off in Fooking DRUG COURT ….. WHAT A LIBERAL JOKE !!!!!!
Your PLAN Really has worked for this Fine Young 20 Year Old Felon, you Popcorn Fart of a man weasel !!!!!!!!!!!!! (Oh, NOT You Paul)
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bitcruncher Wrote:smn1256 Wrote:Fo Shizzle Wrote:Legalization of drugs would remove the RISK factor and thus reduce the cost of these substances....This would in turn reduce the crime associated with the drug trade....
I don't think so. I think drugs that are more readily available would just create more addicts. I'm guessing there were a lot less alcoholics when booze was illegal than there are now.
There were fewer alcholics because many were killed in mob shootouts.
I see we still have morons who ignore the lessons of history. This nation didn't learn sh!t from prohibition...
Please reread your first sentence and see if it still makes sense to you. Using your logic we should have less drug addicts because they are being killed in gang banger shootouts - or - drug users are only gang bangers. Are you sure you were reading a history book and not a comic book?
Trip, when you shoot that guy make sure he goes slowly and be absolutely sure he knows it.
Trip, glad the cops are on your side. Shame someone hadn't taken care of that worthless turd already and saved your women todays troubles. Sounds like the neighbors are pretty much no help too.
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Well these people are all Prison Rejects of some Drug Offense or another and the Man & His Wife do have to live next door and have small Children to worry about.
His time is coming and it may be just minutes now .... there is this one Truck with Special Tail Pipes on it that keeps passing up and down my Road.
I walked out to the road and checked it, but he is too fat, stupid, and drug lazy to walk far and it is a Cold Mo out there too.
What ever Crack Baby does, he will do from the warmth of a Vehicle and I GOT HIM THEN !!!!!
Steve, no Slow Dies for this Puppy, I doing an M16 Head Shot on him and Popping it like a Pimple (that's what it is anyway filled with Puss) ....
One Squeeze and Lights Out !!!! Bye Bye Crack Baby .... then I just have his Inbred Family to take out afterward ... I love the Christmas Holiday's !!!!!!
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Paul M Wrote:Holland is closing pot shops and brothals because of organized crime. It's been a disaster and they are finally admiting it. Tourist no longer want to visit, except those wanting drugs and whores. The criminals just don't say "oh, it's legal now. Let's close up shop and go home boys".
No..thats not true. The reason restrictions on coffee shops in Holland have occurred is because of the tourist trade and popularity of these venues from those outside of the country. The locals are complaining of the volume of what they consider to to be the "wrong type of tourism".
I can actually see this as a valid consideration if I lived in proximity to these venues. Again...this is a direct result of prohibition. Without prohibition Holland would not be a tourist destination.
You lumped prostitution into this debate...which is fine with me since both are simply nonviolent crimes and are not anyones business.
I advocate that a person can do whatever the hell he or she wishes to do...shoot smack into their veins, smoke crack,weed or sell sex to another person if they wish....and if they want to gamble while doing it thats fine also....My only stipulation is that... THEY DO NOT HARM ANOTHER PERSON in the process.
I fully support the prosecution of ANYONE that commits a violent crime or a crime of theft or fraud. I could care less for what reason or if they are under the influence of a substance while in the commission of that crime.
Tripster Wrote:.
NO, these are NOT Valid Points ......
And here is the Simple Reason Why ....
The "Premise Is", that if we Legalize all drugs and just start dumping them on the streets, all Black Market Operations will Cease and Desist Immediately ...
Just look at all the "LEGAL STUFF" there is out there on United States Streets and in available quantity, and go try to find a Black Market Outlet for it ... AND YOU WILL FIND JUST THAT.
There is "always a need for the Black Market" somewhere in the World and turning the Dog's Loose in Our Streets is only going to bring the Shyte-Holes here same as good old Liberal Holland.
The "Dirt Bags" go where there is Freedom to Work and they set up shop to distribute to "Outlaw Nations", ANYTHING you can Dream Up or Want.
I can send you to 10 Web Sites right now that will send you Prescription Drugs for Triple the Drug Store Prices, without A Legal Prescription !!!!!
I mean if we can't even police Illegal Drug Web Sites, how on Earth are we going to be able to Police a Free United States Drug Trade ???
Right on the Money Paul ......
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Of course they will always be someone that wishes to take the risk of doing business in a black or grey market...but...you cant deny that it would be vastly reduced if users could just simply go to a authorized retailer and purchase their needs without fear of arrest.. I advocate a system akin to "hard" liquor sales with control..not..."dumped" onto the street....That would simply be absurd.
Why would anyone choose to buy in a uncontrolled black market when they could be certain that the product they are buying is quality controlled for quality,potency and safety?
BTW...The drugs you claim that can be purchased in the black market..ie prescription drugs....are NOT available in the free market because of the need for a prescription to buy them from a licensed drug dealer....This is why there is a black market for their sale.