Not too sure how I feel about us hiring a BG Guy. I mean, he was a BG coach for 7 years! He is more than likely a falcon at heart.....Terrible
Furthermore, if he would have thanked just one more guy from BG at his presser, then I probably would have vomited in my mouth....
Also (And excuse me, Im venting) I have heard inside rumors that he plans to bring on more BG COACHES! And not just a couple from the past. Im talking about at least 2 from their most recent staff!!
I will also bet their wont be a single Rocket alum on the staff. (Playing or Coaching)
So how in the H*ll can we point fingers at Eberflaus for trying to get the BGSUCKS job??
We are Sleeping with the Enemy Rockets.....
And Im scared....
(ppphhewwwww, i feel better)
BG beat us 37-10 and 38-10 the last two years. Obviously someone knew what they were doing over there.
Coaching is a business, like it or not. Beckman does not bleed BG, and in fact probably has a little animosity towards BG since they picked Brandon as the HC when Meyer left instead of picking him. Many BG fans say that is likely why he left to be the cornerbacks coach at OSU as soon as he could get out of there.
After what has happened here recently, would it be a bad thing if we get all new assistants that have no ties to Toledo? We need outsiders with discipline and fire to come in.
Mike Ward could very well be our next DC, he's been the DC at Bowling Green. Campbell is probably the other guy your are talking about and he just took an assistants job at Wyoming, where their HC's base salary is $800K. Can't see him coming to UT instead because the pay will be much lower than at Wyoming.
Rocket Confidental Wrote:Not too sure how I feel about us hiring a BG Guy. I mean, he was a BG coach for 7 years! He is more than likely a falcon at heart.....Terrible
Furthermore, if he would have thanked just one more guy from BG at his presser, then I probably would have vomited in my mouth....
Also (And excuse me, Im venting) I have heard inside rumors that he plans to bring on more BG COACHES! And not just a couple from the past. Im talking about at least 2 from their most recent staff!!
I will also bet their wont be a single Rocket alum on the staff. (Playing or Coaching)
So how in the H*ll can we point fingers at Eberflaus for trying to get the BGSUCKS job??
We are Sleeping with the Enemy Rockets.....
And Im scared....
(ppphhewwwww, i feel better)
This is a job to these coaches. I don't give a rat's *** where they worked before as long as they are the best coaches we can find. I'm glad you feel better...relax.
My apologies.... I just really bleed midnight blue and gold to the very inner part of my being... I get a lil extreme sometimes...
I even skip the color "Orange" when I am teaching my children about color spectrum....
Rocket Confidental Wrote:Not too sure how I feel about us hiring a BG Guy. I mean, he was a BG coach for 7 years! He is more than likely a falcon at heart.....Terrible
Furthermore, if he would have thanked just one more guy from BG at his presser, then I probably would have vomited in my mouth....
Also (And excuse me, Im venting) I have heard inside rumors that he plans to bring on more BG COACHES! And not just a couple from the past. Im talking about at least 2 from their most recent staff!!
I will also bet their wont be a single Rocket alum on the staff. (Playing or Coaching)
So how in the H*ll can we point fingers at Eberflaus for trying to get the BGSUCKS job??
We are Sleeping with the Enemy Rockets.....
And Im scared....
(ppphhewwwww, i feel better)
Assume that you are referring to me "pointing fingers" at Eberflus? I'm friends with him, so I can jab at him all I want. I wanted him to get the UT job, but will be happy for him with any job he gets...including BG. If in fact he gets the job, I hope they do well, but get their azzes kicked by us every year. I'm sure some of the BG guys are wondering why in the he!! they are looking at a UT grad as their next coach.
I'm not worried about Beckman. I've heard from a reliable source that he has already brought on one coach...can't comment any more on it, but he is not from BG. I've received some really positive feedback in regard to Beckman from various people who know what they are talking about. I know what you are saying though...that BG connection does make me want to puke in my mouth. We may see a coach or two from BG, but we are not going to have an entire staff of ex BG coaches.
Rocket Confidental Wrote:My apologies.... I just really bleed midnight blue and gold to the very inner part of my being... I get a lil extreme sometimes...
I even skip the color "Orange" when I am teaching my children about color spectrum....
Don't apologize...keep bleeding midnight blue and gold. I love you enthusiasm.
Lets see. We have a DC from the Big12 who understands how devistating the spread is, as HC.
There is an ex OC from Clemson available who was one of the early on innovators of running a successful spread.[/align]
One of the first hires has to be bring back Spence.
Rocket Confidental Wrote:I will also bet their wont be a single Rocket alum on the staff. (Playing or Coaching)
Well unless the NCAA bends some rules for us, I doubt we'd see any alums playing no matter who we hired.
Coach Beckman is a good fit for the Midnight Blue and Gold. He is young full of energy and will show what work really is. Give him a chance as this past season was the worst we have seen in a long time. Just when you thought the offense might do something the play calling got worse and worse and worse. A new OC is important and growth in all positions. The QB position should be interesting as there are 3 capable guys on the roster. I don't think Opelt is a shoe in or crowned with the position like Jimmy Clausen at ND. (He may have a 3rd loosing season)
We should be glad to have him and support the program. I cant wait for the 2009 season-cant get enough .
As was said before, these coaches are just doing a job. They go where the money and opportunities are. Beckman could be a falcon one year, a buckeye the next, a cowboy the next....
Unless you hire a UT grad, these coaches will be gone if they are successful. That's the way it works in the MAC.
I also think that people don't understand that coaches rarely hate their rivals. Yes they get emotional about a rivalry game, but that's about it (unless you're Woody). Players are often friends too. It's the fans that get all worked up.
DetroitRocket Wrote:As was said before, these coaches are just doing a job. They go where the money and opportunities are. Beckman could be a falcon one year, a buckeye the next, a cowboy the next....
Unless you hire a UT grad, these coaches will be gone if they are successful. That's the way it works in the MAC.
I also think that people don't understand that coaches rarely hate their rivals. Yes they get emotional about a rivalry game, but that's about it (unless you're Woody). Players are often friends too. It's the fans that get all worked up.
Even with Woody, he was great friends with Bo. He was Bo's mentor. He respected Bo and Bo respected Woody.
You are spot-on with your analysis of the situation. Good points.
this guy can recruit...were gonna get some good athletes the next few years! 2-10 next year, 7-5 2010
MetroRocket Wrote:this guy can recruit...were gonna get some good athletes the next few years! 2-10 next year, 7-5 2010
Glad to hear that the new HC can recruit, but I think 2-10 is setting the bar way too low for next year. The fan concensus is that this year the team was 3-9 because of a lack of coaching, not a lack of athletic ability. The team only loses a few seniors (7?) although if the new staff cracks the whip a bit (which is not a bad idea IMHO) there may be some additional losses from underclassmen who don't buy into a new system and fall by the wayside. Still, I am expecting better than 2-10 (the former staff could have probably done that well).
Of those 7 that we lose, only about 3-4 had any serious playing time (Moore, Allen, Herbert, and Forestal. That about cover it ??) Williamson did not finish the season - so not counting him. Don't know what became of Martin during his career. Significant playing time as a freshman - disappeared for at least a year - then not much of anything after that)
My concern is whether all the remaining players are that good - or if they were just not challenged/coached well enough.
MotoRocket Wrote:Of those 7 that we lose, only about 3-4 had any serious playing time (Moore, Allen, Herbert, and Forestal. That about cover it ??) Williamson did not finish the season - so not counting him. Don't know what became of Martin during his career. Significant playing time as a freshman - disappeared for at least a year - then not much of anything after that)
My concern is whether all the remaining players are that good - or if they were just not challenged/coached well enough.
I think the talent level was very low this year and will be even lower next year with the guys leaving and a lost recruiting season.
moore was probably our most talented offensive guy -size, skill, confidence, smarts, but otherwise not a big loss of a class. i think we have offensive skill talent. s williams, bailey, stafford, fought, thomas, collins, m williams, hancock,colletto, is gordon warner still around? lenehan, opelt and pettee give you credible options at qb. the line talent has fallen off a little but we are respectable there and have guys coming back. we are pretty talented at the linbacker, rover, safety spots that cover lots of the field. obviously we gotta get better on the line and corner is a concern if morrow cannot recover from his injury (he's a real good player). so i'd say the cup is still half full
T-Town Wrote:MetroRocket Wrote:this guy can recruit...were gonna get some good athletes the next few years! 2-10 next year, 7-5 2010
Glad to hear that the new HC can recruit, but I think 2-10 is setting the bar way too low for next year. The fan concensus is that this year the team was 3-9 because of a lack of coaching, not a lack of athletic ability. The team only loses a few seniors (7?) although if the new staff cracks the whip a bit (which is not a bad idea IMHO) there may be some additional losses from underclassmen who don't buy into a new system and fall by the wayside. Still, I am expecting better than 2-10 (the former staff could have probably done that well).
I'm not sure it matters much what we expect. I like the idea that Beckman expects to be competing for a MACC in 2009; That's more important.
Our offense won't change until we start a new QB. Somebody that can run and not one-hop ball to wide recievers or throw the ball into first row seats.
utpotts Wrote:Our offense won't change until we start a new QB. Somebody that can run and not one-hop ball to wide recievers or throw the ball into first row seats.
Just going in the shotgun with 4 or 5 wideouts on 3rd and 8 instead of putting the QB behind center with 1 or 2 wideouts on 3rd and 8 will make a huge difference. Actually allowing Opelt to run the football and not have him worry about getting injured will make a different too.
rocketfootball Wrote:utpotts Wrote:Our offense won't change until we start a new QB. Somebody that can run and not one-hop ball to wide recievers or throw the ball into first row seats.
Just going in the shotgun with 4 or 5 wideouts on 3rd and 8 instead of putting the QB behind center with 1 or 2 wideouts on 3rd and 8 will make a huge difference. Actually allowing Opelt to run the football and not have him worry about getting injured will make a different too.
Rocketfootball - I agree 100%. The talent was not the problem this year, as in the two prior years. Offensive game plan was brutal. Opelt needs to be "unleashed." This is his 4th year and we need to get in the shot gun and attack downfeild. Allow him to make plays on his feet as well. We should use him just like CMU uses Lefevere (sp?) and how we used to use Bolden. To me the spread offense is most dangerous when you have a mobile QB. Opelt has the ability, we need to stop treating him like a "china doll."