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Does the loser of Pitt-Cin game vs Ball St in Motor City bowl intrest anyone
If Ball State goes undefeated, they deserve a better bowl than Motor City. The BCS will never take them, even if they are the only undefeated mid-major, but the Liberty Bowl or something along that line is more relevant for them.

I wish they could get into the BCS, they payout for the conference would be huge!
templefootballfan Wrote:Does the loser of Pitt-Cin game vs Ball St in Motor City bowl intrest anyone

Doesn't matter. The loser of Pitt/Cin is not going to the Motor City Bowl.
MCB is MAC/Big Ten, right? That's how I have always understood it.

The Big Ten this year=03-puke for the MCB. While I really don't like any of the Big Ten teams that may be in line for the MCB, I would think Iowa, Northwestern, Wisconsin, and yes Illinois (03-puke03-puke) could be good fits for ticket sales.

Will be intersting to see how it unfolds.
I agree Ball St should get marque matchup, but there running out of options. Rice in Tex, Haw in Haw & LousT in independence is all that left.
However if BE gets 6 schools with 7 wins, they will be looking to place some body.
Cin-Pitt winner proabbly makes BCS
WV in Mienkie
Conn in Toronto
USF in St Pete
Rutgers in Bir
that puts loser of game in Motor City
templefootballfan Wrote:I agree Ball St should get marque matchup, but there running out of options. Rice in Tex, Haw in Haw & LousT in independence is all that left.
However if BE gets 6 schools with 7 wins, they will be looking to place some body.
Cin-Pitt winner proabbly makes BCS
WV in Mienkie
Conn in Toronto
USF in St Pete
Rutgers in Bir
that puts loser of game in Motor City

If the Big Ten can't fill that bowl spot.
MAC needs Ill to lose, 1st you can get better matchup for Ball St
2nd you may need mac school to fill in at Motor city
& farm out BSU
dondosae1 Wrote:MCB is MAC/Big Ten, right? That's how I have always understood it.

The Big Ten this year=03-puke for the MCB. While I really don't like any of the Big Ten teams that may be in line for the MCB, I would think Iowa, Northwestern, Wisconsin, and yes Illinois (03-puke03-puke) could be good fits for ticket sales.

Will be intersting to see how it unfolds.

Illinois brought a very small contingent for the WMU game at FF. They wouldn't bring much more for the MCB. Northwestern wouldn't bring many either. They played in the MCB in 2003 and i don't remember seeing many NU fans in attendance.
epasnoopy Wrote:Illinois brought a very small contingent for the WMU game at FF. They wouldn't bring much more for the MCB. Northwestern wouldn't bring many either. They played in the MCB in 2003 and i don't remember seeing many NU fans in attendance.

I was at the 2003 Motor City Bowl. Northwestern did fine. They brough a lot of fans. The announced crowd was 50,000-plus. If memory serves, it was a record at the time.
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epasnoopy Wrote:Illinois brought a very small contingent for the WMU game at FF. They wouldn't bring much more for the MCB. Northwestern wouldn't bring many either. They played in the MCB in 2003 and i don't remember seeing many NU fans in attendance.

I was at the 2003 Motor City Bowl. Northwestern did fine. They brought a lot of fans. The announced crowd was 50,000-plus. If memory serves, it was a record at the time.

I was there and there was plenty of purple in the stands.
epasnoopy Wrote:
dondosae1 Wrote:MCB is MAC/Big Ten, right? That's how I have always understood it.

The Big Ten this year=03-puke for the MCB. While I really don't like any of the Big Ten teams that may be in line for the MCB, I would think Iowa, Northwestern, Wisconsin, and yes Illinois (03-puke03-puke) could be good fits for ticket sales.

Will be intersting to see how it unfolds.

Illinois brought a very small contingent for the WMU game at FF. They wouldn't bring much more for the MCB. Northwestern wouldn't bring many either. They played in the MCB in 2003 and i don't remember seeing many NU fans in attendance.

A solid contingent in purple in 2003. Probably 6K.

I still hope Ill loses, the bowl landscape will be a mess this year.
I have a question about the finances behind the Motor City Bowl. What part do the Big 3 have in supporting the bowl? Chrysler is up for sale with GM and Ford in serious trouble and all three are cutting expenses. If the Big 3 pull out, can other sponsors be found to replace The 3? I would guess ESPN might become the "owner" of this bowl like they are of some other bowls.

My intent is not to be controversial with my questions. I think the MCB is an excellent opportunity for the MAC.
Flat Tire 2 Wrote:I have a question about the finances behind the Motor City Bowl. What part do the Big 3 have in supporting the bowl? Chrysler is up for sale with GM and Ford in serious trouble and all three are cutting expenses. If the Big 3 pull out, can other sponsors be found to replace The 3? I would guess ESPN might become the "owner" of this bowl like they are of some other bowls.

My intent is not to be controversial with my questions. I think the MCB is an excellent opportunity for the MAC.

They're a "presenting sponsor" so no different than Tostitos for the Fiesta Bowl or whatever else. But I doubt their cash outlay is really all that much. The MCB is at the minimum payout for bowls and even if the total amount is $1M to help cover the guarantees (probably high even still), that's still peanuts for those companies (split three ways) despite their financial issues. They're going to have to make hard decisions about finances, but they can't stop marketing altogether.
Doesn't the MAC guarantee our champion to either the MCB or GMAC? Guess I don't see how we can move BSU to another bowl (if one such opportunity exists) unless our bowl partners "sign off" on the deal. In this case, I can possibly see the MCB wanting WMich, but the attendance at Ford Field vs. Illinois probalby didn't endear the Broncs to the MCB selection committee.
exCincy Kid Wrote:Doesn't the MAC guarantee our champion to either the MCB or GMAC? Guess I don't see how we can move BSU to another bowl (if one such opportunity exists) unless our bowl partners "sign off" on the deal. In this case, I can possibly see the MCB wanting WMich, but the attendance at Ford Field vs. Illinois probalby didn't endear the Broncs to the MCB selection committee.

I think the MCB mostly had our #1 selection. I think maybe once we sent our #1 to the GMAC. If i were the MAC, i would send my number one team to play a BCS or ranked school, not some crummy CUSA team.
exCincy Kid Wrote:Doesn't the MAC guarantee our champion to either the MCB or GMAC? Guess I don't see how we can move BSU to another bowl (if one such opportunity exists) unless our bowl partners "sign off" on the deal. In this case, I can possibly see the MCB wanting WMich, but the attendance at Ford Field vs. Illinois probalby didn't endear the Broncs to the MCB selection committee.

Hopefully, in this hypothetical scenario, they would realize that a regular-season game poorly promoted by local media is different than a bowl game that is more highly promoted by local media.
You have to realize if Pitt loses they would come in with 7 to 9 wins, If Cin loses they can still come in at 10-3, Cin follow up Pitt with Syc & Haw.
NU with 8 wins will not likely go to the MCB. NU needs a 9th win over IL to guarantee a New Year's Day Bowl so I expect the Wildcats to be very motivated for multiple reasons next Sat to put a L on IL.

Wins over KSU & Navy should get the Huskies bowling with 7 wins.
Unless Illinois performs a miracle, it will not be bowl eligible. This officially leaves the Big Ten with 7 bowl eligible teams.

ATTM, Wisconsin (6-5) is driving late in the 4th quarter, behind 29-21 to Div 1AA Cal Poly.
Motown Bronco Wrote:Unless Illinois performs a miracle, it will not be bowl eligible. This officially leaves the Big Ten with 7 bowl eligible teams.

ATTM, Wisconsin (6-5) is driving late in the 4th quarter, behind 29-21 to Div 1AA Cal Poly.

Cal Poly loses in OT - their kicker misses at PAT and WI scores a TD and kicked the PAT.

Their kicker missed 3 PAT - 2 of which were off the UPRIGHTS.
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