PSU losing means the Big10 should only get 1 BCS game and the MAC will get the 7th Big 10 team. This basically insures we get a Big 10 opponent as the league should ahve 8 bowl eligible teams, Iowa and Wisconsin are best options (name teams with great fan support who prob won't get one of the league better bowl bids) illinois and maybe northwestern are other possibilities
B-10 still gets 2 BCS berths, PennSt & OhioSt will be in top 14, MichSt knocking on door.
templefootballfan Wrote:B-10 still gets 2 BCS berths, PennSt & OhioSt will be in top 14, MichSt knocking on door.
Penn State will go to the Rose Bowl. I think Ohio State gets left out. I don't see them getting an at-large. BCS bowls don't have to chose Ohio State. They're not going to get chosen over Texas, Oklahoma State, Florida, or Oklahoma. Non-BCS teams will get one or two invitations.
Wouldn't be ironic if the Big Ten can't supply a team due to the MAC beating their teams during the regular season? The MAC shouldn't be penalized for its modest success; the Big Ten needs to provide the Motor City Bowl with a higher pick in its pecking order.
How many times has the Big Ten been aligned with the MCB and how many times have they failed to provide a team?
Okie Chippewa Wrote:Wouldn't be ironic if the Big Ten can't supply a team due to the MAC beating their teams during the regular season? The MAC shouldn't be penalized for its modest success; the Big Ten needs to provide the Motor City Bowl with a higher pick in its pecking order.
How many times has the Big Ten been aligned with the MCB and how many times have they failed to provide a team?
Don't you think that we've embarrassed them enough? I don't but I'm sure that Jim Delaney does.
Okie Chippewa Wrote:Wouldn't be ironic if the Big Ten can't supply a team due to the MAC beating their teams during the regular season? The MAC shouldn't be penalized for its modest success; the Big Ten needs to provide the Motor City Bowl with a higher pick in its pecking order.
How many times has the Big Ten been aligned with the MCB and how many times have they failed to provide a team?
The MCB needs to give out higher payouts. If the MCB gave out a slightly higher payout i'm sure they could move up the pecking order. This game has been very successful for the MCB folks.
epasnoopy Wrote:The MCB needs to give out higher payouts. If the MCB gave out a slightly higher payout i'm sure they could move up the pecking order. This game has been very successful for the MCB folks.
Have you been reading the papers lately? The Big Three that pour a lot of sponsorship money into the MCB are about out of business. The chances of them throwing more money into the pot so they get a better shot at a football team has no chance in hell of happening. In fact, unless a new sponsor can be found, I doubt there will be a MCB next season. Things are beyond bad in Detroit.
chipfan Wrote:epasnoopy Wrote:The MCB needs to give out higher payouts. If the MCB gave out a slightly higher payout i'm sure they could move up the pecking order. This game has been very successful for the MCB folks.
Have you been reading the papers lately? The Big Three that pour a lot of sponsorship money into the MCB are about out of business. The chances of them throwing more money into the pot so they get a better shot at a football team has no chance in hell of happening. In fact, unless a new sponsor can be found, I doubt there will be a MCB next season. Things are beyond bad in Detroit.
Big deal, won't be hard to find a new sponsor with a bowl game this successful.
I really don't see how ... if the Big Ten has an at-large team that is 10-2 ... they don't get an at-large BCS bid:
The ACC, Big East, Pac-10, and Notre Dame (LOL) don't look like they're supplying an at-large.
(1) one at-large bid goes to the SEC (likely 1 of Bama, Fla, GA)
(2) one at-large bid goes to the Big XII (likely a South team)
(3) one at-large to Boise State/Utah/Ball State
(4) the other would come down to the Big Ten or to another of the Boise State/Utah/Ball State group.
I'll agree that it's not entirely fair, but a 10-2 OSU or 10-2 PSU is probably chosen ahead of a 12-0 BSU/Utah or 13-0 Ball State.
$$$$$$$$$$ > common sense with the BCS.
(EDIT: I forgot one thing ....... if Oregon State wins out (possible) they win the Pac-10 auto birth. USC then should get a at-large ahead of any Big Ten team)
epasnoopy Wrote:chipfan Wrote:epasnoopy Wrote:The MCB needs to give out higher payouts. If the MCB gave out a slightly higher payout i'm sure they could move up the pecking order. This game has been very successful for the MCB folks.
Have you been reading the papers lately? The Big Three that pour a lot of sponsorship money into the MCB are about out of business. The chances of them throwing more money into the pot so they get a better shot at a football team has no chance in hell of happening. In fact, unless a new sponsor can be found, I doubt there will be a MCB next season. Things are beyond bad in Detroit.
Big deal, won't be hard to find a new sponsor with a bowl game this successful.
Unfortunately, yes it will be hard. The entire State of Michigan has the highest unemployment in the country. The Big Three are about to become the Big Two or Big One or the Big NONE! The auto industry drives the economy and if there is no auto industry there will be nobody around to sponsor a bowl game. Really. I had lived in that area for 14 years before retiring two years ago. It is a living nightmare for the people in the area, not knowing if they will have a job next week, next month, or next year.
The bowl was successful because people were interested in going to the games and because they had the money to spend to go. I guarantee the attendance this year will be down considerably. Sad, but true.
The sponsorship is a drop in the bucket to the ad budget of those automakers. Those are Detroit companies and the bowl game is a chance to showcase the best that Detroit and the midwest can offer. I think the MAC and the auto makers could get creative by providing free tickets to MAC games for folks who buy cars. MAC gets some more attendance that will buy food, t-shirts, hats and parking at games plus fill those empty stadiums during midweek games. The Automakers could give away cars at the half of the MAC title game, GMAC or, MCB Bowls for folks who buy tickets to MAC games or buy cars in a drawing. MAC has plenty of seats to give away.
OUBOBCATJOHN Wrote:The sponsorship is a drop in the bucket to the ad budget of those automakers. Those are Detroit companies and the bowl game is a chance to showcase the best that Detroit and the midwest can offer. I think the MAC and the auto makers could get creative by providing free tickets to MAC games for folks who buy cars. MAC gets some more attendance that will buy food, t-shirts, hats and parking at games plus fill those empty stadiums during midweek games. The Automakers could give away cars at the half of the MAC title game, GMAC or, MCB Bowls for folks who buy tickets to MAC games or buy cars in a drawing. MAC has plenty of seats to give away.
Seriously lay off the pot. Please.
The automakers are almost broke, When GM takes over Chrysler, that means more people are out of business, who won't have any money to go to a bowl game. If Ford, doesn't turn some kind of profit or break even by the 2nd quarter next year, they will run out of cash to pay their workers. The automakers have no room to give anything away for free. THE MCB is in trouble, and with the lack of atmosphere surrounding the game, I won't be sad to see it go.
NittanyLion Wrote:I really don't see how ... if the Big Ten has an at-large team that is 10-2 ... they don't get an at-large BCS bid:
The ACC, Big East, Pac-10, and Notre Dame (LOL) don't look like they're supplying an at-large.
(1) one at-large bid goes to the SEC (likely 1 of Bama, Fla, GA)
(2) one at-large bid goes to the Big XII (likely a South team)
(3) one at-large to Boise State/Utah/Ball State
(4) the other would come down to the Big Ten or to another of the Boise State/Utah/Ball State group.
I'll agree that it's not entirely fair, but a 10-2 OSU or 10-2 PSU is probably chosen ahead of a 12-0 BSU/Utah or 13-0 Ball State.
$$$$$$$$$$ > common sense with the BCS.
(EDIT: I forgot one thing ....... if Oregon State wins out (possible) they win the Pac-10 auto birth. USC then should get a at-large ahead of any Big Ten team)
Excellent post.
Your information about OSU (the one in Oregon) is great. I'd never heard anyone say that Oregon State was the potential Pac 10 champ (they defeated USC earlier this year and would go if USC and OSU finish with one conference loss).
Isn't it nice the non-BCS conferences have gotten SO strong that there were 4 teams in the race (Boise, Utah, TCU [now out] and Ball State).
This may be
but the next time the BCS is 'tweaked' or revised they should 'reserve' one automatic slot for a non-BCS school.
Won't happen but based on what we've seen this decade, it should (also remember there were excellent teams like MIA '03 before the BCS was tweaked).
MAC Fans need to root big time for Oregon State & USC to win out. If that happens, OSU, the west coast one, goes to the Rose Bowl and USC becomes the final at-large pick in the BCS. This would result in hitting the Daily Double for the MAC . . .
1) An additional at-large bowl slot vacated by the PAC 10 and
2) A Big Ten team playing in the MCB
Quote:THE MCB is in trouble, and with the lack of atmosphere surrounding the game, I won't be sad to see it go.
Lack of atmosphere? Since Toledo hasn't played in the game recently, you may not realize that attendance for the MCB the last two seasons has been quite good. Even the Detroit papers gave us props.
As for the funding for the MCB drying up, I confess I am also a little worried about that. But only a little. When a company stops investing in the community like that, it can have even more negative repercussions. Besides, the game is AT
Ford Field, for crying out loud.
CMichFan Wrote:Quote:THE MCB is in trouble, and with the lack of atmosphere surrounding the game, I won't be sad to see it go.
Lack of atmosphere? Since Toledo hasn't played in the game recently, you may not realize that attendance for the MCB the last two seasons has been quite good. Even the Detroit papers gave us props.
Attendance might be up, but those have been some really quiet crowds on ESPN. Plus it costs 20 bucks just to park somewhere close to Ford Field, where you can't tailgate! The atmosphere sucks there, I would much rather be at the GMAC bowl, where the city actually cares about the game, instead of Detroit that could care less.
Lack of atmosphere and quiet crowds? Have you lost your mind? The MCB has been near a sellout the past two years, and the CMU fans have been extremely loud. Especially last year, that was one of the best games of the entire bowl season. Ford Field was louder than any Lions game has ever been. That was something special there. Obviously you have not been watching lately. The MCB hasnt been anything like when Toledo, Akron, etc. were in it and the crowds were lifeless. Its been pretty damn good the last 2 years.
Okie Chippewa Wrote:MAC Fans need to root big time for Oregon State & USC to win out. If that happens, OSU, the west coast one, goes to the Rose Bowl and USC becomes the final at-large pick in the BCS. This would result in hitting the Daily Double for the MAC . . .
1) An additional at-large bowl slot vacated by the PAC 10 and
2) A Big Ten team playing in the MCB
If your scenario happens that means there will be no chance that two non-BCS teams make BCS Bowls.
I have a better chance of winning five poker hands in a row than two non-BCS teams making the BCS Bowls. Not saying it can't happen, but it is very unlikely.