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My kid and a few of his friends were banned from playing soccer for their grade school a few years back. We asked if they could play two or three years up, and the answer was still no. What a shame parents and lawyers continue to cause this stuff.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/848...l?MSNHPHMA

9-year-old barred for pitching too wellUpdated: August 26, 2008, 7:47 AM EST 376 comments add this RSS blog email print NEW HAVEN, Conn. (AP) - Nine-year-old Jericho Scott is a good baseball player - too good, it turns out.


Parents of some opposing players say Jericho Scott's 40 mph fastball is too intimidating. (Douglas Healey / Associated Press)
The right-hander has a fastball that tops out at about 40 mph. He throws so hard that the Youth Baseball League of New Haven told his coach that the boy could not pitch any more. When Jericho took the mound anyway last week, the opposing team forfeited the game, packed its gear and left, his coach said.

Officials for the three-year-old league, which has eight teams and about 100 players, said they will disband Jericho's team, redistributing its players among other squads, and offered to refund $50 sign-up fees to anyone who asks for it. They say Jericho's coach, Wilfred Vidro, has resigned.

But Vidro says he didn't quit and the team refuses to disband. Players and parents held a protest at the league's field on Saturday urging the league to let Jericho pitch.

"He's never hurt any one," Vidro said. "He's on target all the time. How can you punish a kid for being too good?"

The controversy bothers Jericho, who says he misses pitching.

"I feel sad," he said. "I feel like it's all my fault nobody could play."

Jericho's coach and parents say the boy is being unfairly targeted because he turned down an invitation to join the defending league champion, which is sponsored by an employer of one of the league's administrators.

Jericho instead joined a team sponsored by Will Power Fitness. The team was 8-0 and on its way to the playoffs when Jericho was banned from pitching.

"I think it's discouraging when you're telling a 9-year-old you're too good at something," said his mother, Nicole Scott. "The whole objective in life is to find something you're good at and stick with it. I'd rather he spend all his time on the baseball field than idolizing someone standing on the street corner."


League attorney Peter Noble says the only factor in banning Jericho from the mound is his pitches are just too fast.

"He is a very skilled player, a very hard thrower," Noble said. "There are a lot of beginners. This is not a high-powered league. This is a developmental league whose main purpose is to promote the sport."

Noble acknowledged that Jericho had not beaned any batters in the co-ed league of 8- to 10-year-olds, but say parents expressed safety concerns.

"Facing that kind of speed" is frightening for beginning players, Noble said.

League officials say they first told Vidro that the boy could not pitch after a game on Aug. 13. Jericho played second base the next game on Aug. 16. But when he took the mound Wednesday, the other team walked off and a forfeit was called.

League officials say Jericho's mother became irate, threatening them and vowing to get the league shut down.

"I have never seen behavior of a parent like the behavior Jericho's mother exhibited Wednesday night," Noble said.

Scott denies threatening any one, but said she did call the police.

League officials suggested that Jericho play other positions, or pitch against older players or in a different league.

Local attorney John Williams was planning to meet with Jericho's parents Monday to discuss legal options.

"You don't have to be learned in the law to know in your heart that it's wrong," he said. "Now you have to be punished because you excel at something?"
read the new haven paper version. it is blowing up there.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.asp?brd=1281
This is the United States of America....................I smell lawsuit.
daddyodewy Wrote:This is the United States of America....................I smell lawsuit.


just for argument sake, i'll take the other side.

if my kid was 100x better than the rest of the kids in a REC league, i believe i would put him in a competitive league or let him play 'up', if allowed.
NJ1 Wrote:what a bunch of sissies.

Exactly. How 'bout you teach your kids a life lesson about failure. Send them in there, tell them to dig in and give it their best shot. If you fail, big deal.

The parents are basically teaching their kids that if they aren't good enough at something, then they should just give up. WRONG MESSAGE.
UMTigerfan Wrote:
daddyodewy Wrote:This is the United States of America....................I smell lawsuit.


just for argument sake, i'll take the other side.

if my kid was 100x better than the rest of the kids in a REC league, i believe i would put him in a competitive league or let him play 'up', if allowed.

To me, recreation league means "for fun". Maybe the kid just wants to play with his friends. And maybe his parents aren't forcing him to play 60 games a summer just because he's really good. There isn't anything wrong with that.
I don't get it. My son was 8 years old this year playing 3rd/4th grade machine pitch "non-competitive" baseball. The machine is set at around 40mph. That is not too fast for that age.
MemphisBlue Wrote:I don't get it. My son was 8 years old this year playing 3rd/4th grade machine pitch "non-competitive" baseball. The machine is set at around 40mph. That is not too fast for that age.

that didn't seem fast to me either.

the only thing i can think is that maybe the pitching rubber is much closer when the kids are actually pitching compared to where the machine pitches from???
MemphisBlue Wrote:I don't get it. My son was 8 years old this year playing 3rd/4th grade machine pitch "non-competitive" baseball. The machine is set at around 40mph. That is not too fast for that age.


My son played both machine pitch at that age--the only option at St. Louis School here--and competitive.
One of our challenges as coaches was to get the kids to wait on the pitch when they played school ball. It arcs higher, too.

Even rec leagues have caps on innings a pitcher can throw, pitch counts, or mandatory off-days that limit the games a kid can throw. He played other positions as well--they were 8-0.

The coach who packed his team up and left shoud be thrown out of the league.
MemphisBlue Wrote:I don't get it. My son was 8 years old this year playing 3rd/4th grade machine pitch "non-competitive" baseball. The machine is set at around 40mph. That is not too fast for that age.

I coached in both rec league and competitive ball in Germantown for a number of years. It's not uncommon to find kids at 9 years old who can throw that hard, and there are a lot of parents who don't want them or their kids to deal with the time commitment of competitive ball. The rule of thumb is that the perceived speed of a pitch increases by 10 mph for every five feet of distance removed between the rubber and the plate. At 9 years old in competitive ball, the boys pitch from 46 feet, so a 40 mph fastball would be the equivalent of an 88 mph pitch in high school. I never had a kid at that age on one of my teams who could throw like that with any control, but we played against a few of them. I would say that a pitcher like that would be very intimidating in a rec league situation.
Something is fishy here. My 6 year old hits 40mph balls in the cage at putt putt. If the kid has good control this isn't a big deal. There is more to this story.
MemphisBlue Wrote:I don't get it. My son was 8 years old this year playing 3rd/4th grade machine pitch "non-competitive" baseball. The machine is set at around 40mph. That is not too fast for that age.

Exactly, we had the same situation here with our 8 yr old this year on machine pitch. As a matter of fact, it was a hitter's league with most games scoring in the teens.....
My experience was that when 9s struggled with control, they almost always threw away from the batter or high.
Runners on third had to be alert because there are plenty of passed balls. Very few hitters got plunked. Heck, some of them backed out of the box on perfect strikes.

One of my kids played in a tournament when he was eleven or twelve at Snowden Grove and we were no-hit all three games. Happens.

The kid will have to find some competition. If he does this for a couple of years and then starts getting shelled, he can easily lose his confidence.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think CT is the state where they suspend HS FB coaches if they win by more than 50 points. What is in the water up there??
tigertommy Wrote:Something is fishy here. My 6 year old hits 40mph balls in the cage at putt putt. If the kid has good control this isn't a big deal. There is more to this story.

it is putt putt.

different situation when you are facing a live pitcher in a baseball game atmosphere.

you can hit 20 out of 20 free-throws, but are you gonna make 20 out of 20 free-throws in a real game situation?
mempho_to_diego Wrote:
tigertommy Wrote:Something is fishy here. My 6 year old hits 40mph balls in the cage at putt putt. If the kid has good control this isn't a big deal. There is more to this story.

it is putt putt.

different situation when you are facing a live pitcher in a baseball game atmosphere.

you can hit 20 out of 20 free-throws, but are you gonna make 20 out of 20 free-throws in a real game situation?


Maybe if he plunked the first batter every game but from reading the articles he has very good control.
there's no crying in baseball!
tigertommy Wrote:
mempho_to_diego Wrote:
tigertommy Wrote:Something is fishy here. My 6 year old hits 40mph balls in the cage at putt putt. If the kid has good control this isn't a big deal. There is more to this story.

it is putt putt.

different situation when you are facing a live pitcher in a baseball game atmosphere.

you can hit 20 out of 20 free-throws, but are you gonna make 20 out of 20 free-throws in a real game situation?


Maybe if he plunked the first batter every game but from reading the articles he has very good control.

that is what i was implying ... the kid definitely has great control from the article
Sends a bad message to the kids. It actually cripples them and makes them weaker. In Real life when you grow up and theres someone better than you, they're not gonna just disappear and go after because they're too good. You need to learn to deal with it and either make ur self better than him/her or at least try to.
Sounds like a bunch of ******* liberals to me. Everyone needs to get a trophy.
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