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He thinks that would "solve" everyone's problems, partly by destroying the Big East and "forcing" ND into a super conference (see paragraph 6):


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SEC should eye hostile takeover of college football marketplace
posted by Tim Stephens on May 28, 2008 1:09:43 PM
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The Southeastern Conference's annual meetings are taking place this week in pristine Destin, Fla. These year-end vacations for the SEC jet set are usually mostly fun and games -- and not that much business -- along the Gulf of Mexico before the commissioner divides all the millions between the schools.

This year, it's big business. There will be important talk of TV and bowl options. And, of course, there's the money. This year, that payoff is expected to be yet another record, topping last year's take of more than $120 million.

Somewhere, former SEC commissioner Roy Kramer must be proud. Back in my days in Birmingham in the early part of the decade, I was often a critic of the SEC boss, but the man was wise and ruthless. He understood what was coming and where the marketplace would lead. He was saying as far back as 1999 that a bowl for every team without a losing record would be a good thing. He told me as far back as 2001 that getting rid of the I-A and I-AA labels should occur, too, with the implication being that flooding the market with new "major" teams would drive down the prices of game guarantees for teams in his league. On those, he looks prescient today.

He also understood a decade ago, I suspect, that his pet creation known as the Bowl Championship Series would evolve into the dominant entity in college sports. Which, of course, it has. The NCAA and not even Congress have been able to seriously challenge the BCS conference commissioners' power grab.

Please indulge me as I channel Roy and offer some advice to current SEC Commissioner Mike Slive and the gang: Forget the nice-guy approach. Yes, it's admirable that you've cleaned up the cheating and gotten the teams off probation and out of whack-the-rat mode. But no one cares. What they really care about is money -- specifically, making a lot of it and not sharing much of it with freeloaders.

Gordongekko So it's time to go all Gordon Gekko on the rest of college football. It's time for a hostile takeover.

Before we go further, let's review. Call it table-setting for what is to come.

The SEC this week began discussions about forming its own television network. That it's now open for public consumption should be a clue that it's not exactly the first time this has come up behind closed doors and that it's probably much farther along in the process than leaders will confirm now. It's part of a bigger picture. Remember that a convergence of circumstances are on the horizon within the next five years, starting with next summer when the SEC's current TV deals expire.

Also coming:

-- The BCS and the networks will negotiate to extend the current arrangement for four more years beyond the two currently still on the books with Fox. After that, billions upon billions await a legitimate playoff system that the BCS schools will want to keep away from the NCAA.

-- Virtually every major deal between the conferences, the bowls and the television networks will expire;

-- All of the major television contracts between conferences and the networks for regular-season games will expire;

-- The Big East Conference's moratorium on membership changes expires;

-- And the NCAA's $6 billion contract with CBS for rights to the NCAA Tournament expires in 2014.

That's a lot of negotiating. And a lot of potential for leverage and change.

Now, as I don my best Armani suit and slick back my hair, here is what the SEC as college athletics' strongest conference needs to be doing to prepare for all of that. Cue this guy for some inspiration and let's get rolling.

If we define the BCS as what it truly is -- a cartel designed to control the flow of money in major college football for the major conferences -- then we should also play out that definition to its logical cutthroat conclusion. The strong eat the weak, both inside and outside of the cartel. There's no reason to delay that inevitability, either.

A speculative corporate raider might set this agenda for Slive and the SEC over the next half-decade:

1) Get moving on SEC-TV or whatever you are going to call it. Have it ready to trot out in 2009 at the latest. Be prepared to beat the Big 12 and ACC, who'll also probably create their own TV networks, to the punch. This will be important as you'll be competing for the same access to cable systems.

2) Begin your secret negotiations with Texas and Texas A&M to join the SEC. Remember, this is cutthroat business. Adding the Texas market to SEC TV would strengthen negotiating power with the cable companies and greatly enhance the value for the SEC while diminishing the Big 12's. You may have to beat the Big Ten in the race for Texas, by the way.

3) Make private overtures also to ACC and Big East schools that are within the SEC footprint and would add value to the SEC. Doing so may not bring those those teams into the SEC but it would pressure those schools and leagues to get on board with the real plan here: The emergence of the era of the true superconference and the establishment of a multi-billion dollar college football playoff.

4) As leader of the pack, begin the push to 4 to 6 "super conferences" ranging from 12 to 16 members. The SEC. The ACC. The Big 12 (er, Big 14?). Maybe the Big East (or whatever it might be called by then after the football-playing schools split in 2010). And, reluctantly, the Big Ten and Pac-10, who will have no choice but to capitulate this time.

5) Conspire with the ACC and Big Ten to purge the Big Eastern Something of its marquee programs. Folding Syracuse, Rutgers, West Virginia, et al, into existing leagues would enhance TV network values and might eliminate the Big Whatever as an auto-bid league. Ditto for the Notre Dame dilemma. Now, while they are in a weaker-than-usual bargaining position and may not have that NBC lifeline forever, is the time to push the Irish into a league.

6) TV potential will carry some weight. That could mean reevaluating existing membership and perhaps even pushing out small-market teams that don't add value and replacing them with rising programs that do. Tradition, while still a big part of college football, will not be as important as potential and TV market. Baylor types, you are on the clock. And the UCF types, you are, too.

7) Working with the other cartel members, begin negotiations with an outside marketing organization such as this one to form an eight-team college football playoff. This is a deviation from the Kramer Doctrine, as he was a staunch opponent of the bowl system. But the playoff train will leave the station sometime in the second half of the next decade. The tracks are being laid now.

8) And finally, if the non-cartel schools with nothing to add in this new landscape want to complain too loudly about their table scraps, break away from the NCAA. Entirely. A much bigger, better version of this can become your new March Madness. You can rewrite the rule book and get rid of archaic bureaucracy. You can be the leader toward streamlining into a more modern organization that attends to the needs of the most powerful without holding them down in the interest of "fairness" to programs that have neither contributed to the creation of the wealth nor made the commitments or built the infrastructure necessary to do so in the future.

Remember, as Gordon Gekko might say:

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save the Southeastern Conference, but that other malfunctioning corporation called college athletics. Thank you very much.
Yes, the SEC certainly knows plenty about greed. You have seen a glimpse of what Memphis has endured for 95 years.
Only point #1 is valid...just don't think the SEC will expand, they got enough power teams and everybody can't be the top dog in the league, ie no texas in the sec + its in the sec best interest to have strong rival leagues, ie the ACC , big 12, big 10, etc. I'd guess the next big moves are the big east doing something and i do think the big 10 will move to 12 but those moves can be absorbed without much notice.
That is a moron's point of view from corporate America. Destroy your competition, after squeezing every cent you can. Then bail on your investors (fans), giving them no choice, and no hope of change.
One problem, that no one seems to notice, the NCAA was created by Congress and Congress will not grant another organization the rights to govern the colleges and universities across America. can you say BIG LAWSUIT?

Problem 2- Superconference would delute the BCS bowls tremendously. It is hard enough now to figure out who should be in the play in what BCS games now. More confusion would be added.

Problem 3- For a new division or league for football would have to have criterias for new members to be added.(otherwise you will only be playing BCS school)Again problem 2 would be more exposed. If no critera is given to add to the new league, then non BCS schools would file a lawsuit. Also look for the non BCS not scheduling games against the BCS schools and that would delute chances even greater of better BCS games. This is not a new idea either. That one reason has already changed the BCS format once and it would happen again. When Tulane filed a lawsuit, this was discussed with the non BCS schools which agreed to this. The BCS schools realized what was at stake and changed their minds about that. That action made changes to the BCS statues as we know it now..

The NCAA is still in violation of "unjust and fair competion" which is based on the rules of Professional sports. When Congress gave Major Sports Exemption, the ncaa should adopted the same rules. A lawsuit could be filed right now on this issue which would dissolve the BCS. This action could change football and other sports as well. Imagine for moment, you have to play 6 home games and 6 away games every year. Also, it would help lower the cost of buy games too. It would also making scheduling easier too. Of course, this would be for every sport, not just basketball or football. I think now the only sport that does this is soccer. It seems it is easier to become a powerhouse if you dont have to play half your games on the road. Would the powerhouses of certain sports be here today if that rule was in effect back then? Whose knows? Until the NCAA recongize this, then they have left themselves up to a big lawsuit. The NCAA must mandate an equal scheduling for all NCAA sports.
gdayre Wrote:One problem, that no one seems to notice, the NCAA was created by Congress and Congress will not grant another organization the rights to govern the colleges and universities across America.
No wonder the NCAA is so screwed up. Anything setup by Congress is doomed from the input of the terminally stupid.

Imagine you are a moron.
Imagine you are a member of Congress.
But I repeat myself.

- Mark Twain
Things I agree with about the scenario:

1) This scenario highlights what I've known since the ACC expanded. The weakest BCS conference in the short term is the Big XII -- followed by the Big East.

2) The SEC will make a (secret) move on both Texas and Texas A&M. I actually agree with the premise, too.

Things not mentioned, but...

1) The ACC is not gonna sit by idle. They have learned from the mistake of not taking Penn State when the opportunity presented itself. I would not be surprised if the ACC makes (secret) overtures to Florida. Same goes for Rutgers. And UConn.

The ACC has an advantage in that more people live on the east coast than the gulf area.

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For those who say a 16-team league can't work...
The Southern Conference was a 21-team outfit in the railroad days of the 1930's and '40s. Given the current state of technology, it's possible for a BCS-level 16-team league.

From this article: "The History of the Southern Conference:
Quote:The first occurred when the Southeastern Conference was formed out of the then 23-school Southern Conference in December of 1932. The split came about when the league's 13 members west and south other Appalachian Mountains reorganized to help reduce the extensive travel demands that were present in the league at that time.

Travel is alot easier now, so I believe a 16-team league can work.

Fire away...
No chance Florida leaves the SEC. Ever. And Texas would be more interested in the Pac 10 or the Big Ten before they would go to the SEC.
That's correct. Florida will never leave the SEC. No matter how you look at it, the SEC is the best conference in the nation. They've won the last 2 BCS Championships, and 3 out of the last 5. They've won 2 of the last 3 NCAA basketball championships. The SEC has the best TV package in football, with multiple national network TV broadcasts every week. Same with basketball. Their coverage is the equal of any conference, if not better.

The ACC can't come up with a financial package, or any other kind of persuasion, that would entice Florida - or any other SEC school - to move to the ACC.

I wouldn't bet on Texas though. An SEC alignment with their old foe Arkansas might be right up their alley.
I didn't say Florida would "jump".. I just stated that I believe the ACC would make an overture.
MongoSlade Wrote:I didn't say Florida would "jump".. I just stated that I believe the ACC would make an overture.

I absolutely agree that the ACC would send feelers out to Florida (and Georgia).

In addition, I think the ACC could send feelers out to Penn State, Syracuse, Rutgers, and Connecticut.

If conferences start considering that...
1. Fewer conferences are better than more
2. To leave the NCAA and form a new body
3. Create a championship playoff for football.

They may start eating themselves.

I think many on this board underestimate universities' academic missions.

I ask you to consider what the Big Ten did for Penn State and what the ACC did for Florida State. Both schools went up in academic prestige and money.

I also think the Big XII could have some challenges. They have the smaller markets of the BCS conferences.
MongoSlade Wrote:Travel is alot easier now, so I believe a 16-team league can work.

Fire away...

Mongo,

I think the main question is: why would the ACC wish to expand again, with the one to 12 having caused so much unrest within the league? The expansion to 12 barely passed, and, even then, didn’t UVa have its arm basically twisted into a “yes” vote?

As a fan of a program currently in a 16 team conference, I should point out to you that it should be nothing for you to look forward to.
Jose_Jalapeno_on_a_Stick Wrote:
MongoSlade Wrote:Travel is alot easier now, so I believe a 16-team league can work.

Fire away...

Mongo,

I think the main question is: why would the ACC wish to expand again, with the one to 12 having caused so much unrest within the league? The expansion to 12 barely passed, and, even then, didn’t UVa have its arm basically twisted into a “yes” vote?

As a fan of a program currently in a 16 team conference, I should point out to you that it should be nothing for you to look forward to.

I don't think there is as much unrest amongst the "suits" as there is with the fans (who don't believe BC belongs).

Yes, UVa was governmentally strong-armed into supporting VT's inclusion, and until that was resolved, ACC expansion was on hold. That's why VT was the first school to be voted upon when it all went down.

Then everyone held their breath hoping Miami wouldn't renege on it's desire to join.

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If you think about it outside the box, you could see that having the ACC and SEC at 16-schools (playing in 4 4-team divisions) would mark the beginning of a playoff system, where the conference title games serve as first-round games in a much larger playoff picture...
Jose_Jalapeno_on_a_Stick Wrote:
MongoSlade Wrote:Travel is alot easier now, so I believe a 16-team league can work.

Fire away...

Mongo,

I think the main question is: why would the ACC wish to expand again, with the one to 12 having caused so much unrest within the league? The expansion to 12 barely passed, and, even then, didn’t UVa have its arm basically twisted into a “yes” vote?

As a fan of a program currently in a 16 team conference, I should point out to you that it should be nothing for you to look forward to.

I can answer a couple parts to this question...

The Commonwealth of Virginia (the state government) twisted UVA's arm concerning expansion.

You also have to remember that UNC was without a chancellor at the time of expansion. If I remember correctly, UNC and Duke were the "Nos".

An expansion to 14 (or 18), with two conferences existing under one umbrella (2 sub-conferences), is the same argument that Terry Holland is suggesting for C-USA. For the ACC, it would be to preserve (or re-establish) the round-robin feel of the conference.

Let's say the ACC states, "We will expand to 16 teams". For example, let's say they add: Syracuse, Connecticut, Rutgers, and Temple.

ACC North

Boston College
Connecticut
Syracuse
Rutgers
Temple (or Pittsburgh or WVU)
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech

ACC South

North Carolina
North Carolina State
Wake Forest
Duke
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Florida State
Miami

Obviously, it is easy to see what the goals would be. The ACC would gain the northeastern part of the county. The ACC would secure the eastern seaboard and create a very strong scheduling pact between the member schools. In addition, look how it could re-establish the feel of the "old conferences". Finally, the ACC would look to cripple the Big East Conference with this type of move.

In addition, think about how a basketball tournament could work...

The ACC South could run their own tournament in, say, Charlotte or Greensboro. The ACC North could run its own tournament in, say, Madison Square Garden.
chess -- everything you said was GOLDEN, except...

UNC had a chancellor in place when expansion went down -- James Moessor was well entrenched in his job by then.

Also, I don't believe the ACC would align totally NORTH/SOUTH, but would ensure the "Big 4" rivalries are preserved in hoops (primarily) and football (secondarily -- Wake and Carolina not playing FB every year isn't really a big deal)
MongoSlade Wrote:chess -- everything you said was GOLDEN, except...

UNC had a chancellor in place when expansion went down -- James Moessor was well entrenched in his job by then.

Also, I don't believe the ACC would align totally NORTH/SOUTH, but would ensure the "Big 4" rivalries are preserved in hoops (primarily) and football (secondarily -- Wake and Carolina not playing FB every year isn't really a big deal)

UNC Athletic Director? In my fuzzy memory, somebody was not in place at UNC.

In addition, you may be correct with my example. Miami has northeast ties and may wish to be with them. Virginia wants to play UNC every year. Things like that are, just what they are, details.

I think the bigger picture is that we could possibly have more movement in these conferences to squeeze out more teams.
Even under that arrangement the ACC would ONLY get ONE automatic bid. You think those basketball nuts go crazy lately when not enough ACC teams get in, imagine their anger when only 7-8 out of 16 teams get in.
As for Florida going into ACC, No SHOT. Florida lives and breathes SEC and makes more oney from it, they would not want to be in conference with FSU or Miami. The only teams that the SEC would expand to 14 for are Texas and Texas AM and that could destroy the Big 12
chess Wrote:UNC Athletic Director? In my fuzzy memory, somebody was not in place at UNC.
Both Moesser (Chancellor) and Dick Baddour (AD) were in place during ACC expansion.
Can the SEC change the college football landscape?
May 29, 2008

Timothy Stephens of the Orlando Sentinel displays an uncanny knack for indulging in too much tequila... or not quite enough in list latest blog post, suggesting that the SEC should play the role of corporate raider and take over college football.

While the analogy is a bit of a stretch, Stephens does manage to land a few shots and -- if nothing else -- open up some rather interesting discussions.

Stephens notes that the SEC is publicly saying that the notion of SEC TV is on the table at this year's spring meetings. While we've heard about SEC TV every since the Big 10 launched its failing... err, I mean fledgling... network, this is the first time that SEC TV has been a public agenda item for the conference. And the discussion comes amid the dynamic landscape of college football over the next few years.

-- The BCS and the networks will negotiate to extend the current arrangement for four more years beyond the two currently still on the books with Fox. After that, billions upon billions await a legitimate playoff system that the BCS schools will want to keep away from the NCAA.

-- Virtually every major deal between the conferences, the bowls and the television networks will expire;

-- All of the major television contracts between conferences and the networks for regular-season games will expire;

-- The Big East Conference's moratorium on membership changes expires;

-- And the NCAA's $6 billion contract with CBS for rights to the NCAA Tournament expires in 2014.


In a nutshell, there's a lot of money to be made over the next few years.

Stephens suggests that the SEC take the nation by storm and execute a hostile takeover - a change which would ensure the SEC can maximize every contract and rake in every dollar.

1) Get moving on SEC-TV or whatever you are going to call it. Have it ready to trot out in 2009 at the latest. Be prepared to beat the Big 12 and ACC, who'll also probably create their own TV networks, to the punch. This will be important as you'll be competing for the same access to cable systems.

While I do not expect the SEC (which already has a national TV contract a la Notre Dame) to actually launch its own network, the SEC channel is the single biggest bargaining chip that the conference has. If they can't get the contract that they want with CBS/ABC/NBC/Fox/etc, then you go nuclear with the SEC Channel.

2) Begin your secret negotiations with Texas and Texas A&M to join the SEC. Remember, this is cutthroat business. Adding the Texas market to SEC TV would strengthen negotiating power with the cable companies and greatly enhance the value for the SEC while diminishing the Big 12's. You may have to beat the Big Ten in the race for Texas, by the way.

This is where an interesting dynamic (that we don't talk about too often) starts to come into play -- television markets. Who's got 'em? Who wants 'em? While some staunch traditionalists may not be prepared to accept the notion, it's becoming more and more clear that the future of conference membership will be greatly influenced by television markets. For example, why do you suppose the ACC was so hell bent on landing Boston College?

3) Make private overtures also to ACC and Big East schools that are within the SEC footprint and would add value to the SEC. Doing so may not bring those those teams into the SEC but it would pressure those schools and leagues to get on board with the real plan here: The emergence of the era of the true superconference and the establishment of a multi-billion dollar college football playoff.

4) As leader of the pack, begin the push to 4 to 6 "super conferences" ranging from 12 to 16 members. The SEC. The ACC. The Big 12 (er, Big 14?). Maybe the Big East (or whatever it might be called by then after the football-playing schools split in 2010). And, reluctantly, the Big Ten and Pac-10, who will have no choice but to capitulate this time.

5) Conspire with the ACC and Big Ten to purge the Big Eastern Something of its marquee programs. Folding Syracuse, Rutgers, West Virginia, et al, into existing leagues would enhance TV network values and might eliminate the Big Whatever as an auto-bid league. Ditto for the Notre Dame dilemma. Now, while they are in a weaker-than-usual bargaining position and may not have that NBC lifeline forever, is the time to push the Irish into a league.


The emergence of the mega-conference is not all that far off. Stephens suggestion for the ACC & SEC to gut the Big East may very well become an economic reality for all three conferences. And it's hard to deny a certain degree of Machiavellian-ism in Stephens suggestion that should the SEC go to 14 or 16 teams that the rest of the conferences would follow. Megaconferences would make the market ripe for a college football playoff -- the grandaddy-est "cha-ching" of them all.

6) TV potential will carry some weight. That could mean reevaluating existing membership and perhaps even pushing out small-market teams that don't add value and replacing them with rising programs that do. Tradition, while still a big part of college football, will not be as important as potential and TV market. Baylor types, you are on the clock. And the UCF types, you are, too.

Again, ultra-traditionalists aren't going to enjoy this part, but certain teams are likely to become economic casualties in the next round of conference expansions. Stephens notes that Baylor has little more than sentimental value in the Big XII. (Of course, the Big XII didn't want Baylor in the first place but Texas lawmakers put pressure on UT and A&M to ensure Baylor and Texas Tech were put in the conference, but that's another story.)

The sad truth is... teams that add little in terms of television exposure are not guaranteed a spot in the mega-conferences. While Vandy is a nice school with a strong history, the SEC has the Vols, which guarantees the conference every television market in the state. Vandy doesn't add a lot of national exposure, so the Commodores may be expendable in favor of... Cincinnati/Texas A&M/Texas/Missouri/Houston/Syracuse/Rutgers.

7) Working with the other cartel members, begin negotiations with an outside marketing organization such as this one to form an eight-team college football playoff. This is a deviation from the Kramer Doctrine, as he was a staunch opponent of the bowl system. But the playoff train will leave the station sometime in the second half of the next decade. The tracks are being laid now.

8) And finally, if the non-cartel schools with nothing to add in this new landscape want to complain too loudly about their table scraps, break away from the NCAA. Entirely. A much bigger, better version of this can become your new March Madness. You can rewrite the rule book and get rid of archaic bureaucracy. You can be the leader toward streamlining into a more modern organization that attends to the needs of the most powerful without holding them down in the interest of "fairness" to programs that have neither contributed to the creation of the wealth nor made the commitments or built the infrastructure necessary to do so in the future.


OK. Stephens may have eaten the worm with that last suggestion... but can anyone really say it is "unthinkable" for the SEC to take its megaconference members major sports -- basketball and football -- and just go start their own NCAA??

So... what say you... is Stephens smoking the rock... or could the SEC change the landscape of college football?

This article appeared on the Fanblogs website on Thursday, May 29, 2008.
Cubanbull Wrote:Even under that arrangement the ACC would ONLY get ONE automatic bid. You think those basketball nuts go crazy lately when not enough ACC teams get in, imagine their anger when only 7-8 out of 16 teams get in.
As for Florida going into ACC, No SHOT. Florida lives and breathes SEC and makes more oney from it, they would not want to be in conference with FSU or Miami. The only teams that the SEC would expand to 14 for are Texas and Texas AM and that could destroy the Big 12

Cubanbull...

What if the goal was to expand all the conferences and secure spots for a playoff?

If the Big Ten expanded to 16 teams? (example: Pittsburgh, Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, Notre Dame)

If the ACC expanded to 16 teams? (example: Connecticut, Syracuse, Temple, Rutgers)

If the SEC expanded to 16 teams? (Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, West Virginia/Texas Tech/Houston)

If the PAC 10 expanded? (Colorado, Colorado State, Utah, Brigham Young...2 more?)

It seems that an argument could be made to create a super-conference and secure spots in the playoff.
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