Big East bowl lineup: Here’s the official 2008 Big East bowl lineup according to Big East associate commissioner Nick Carparelli.
Champion (BCS)
Second selection (Gator/Sun) Gator gets first choice of either Big 12, Big East or Notre Dame; if Gator picks Big 12 team, Sun must take Big East team or Notre Dame
Third selection (Meineke Car Care)
Fourth selection (International). Yes, that’s right International is fourth.
Fifth/sixth selection (Papajohns.com and St. Pete) The bowls share this pick and work together to chose teams that will be most attractive to both bowls.
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Potentially more good news for the MAC.
If Notre Dame has 6+ wins they will be taking the Gator Bowl from the Big East. Then you are really talking the Big East #3 in the International Bowl and that could be a ranked team.
Another note of interest, the Big East is looking to regain the Gator Bowl full time from the Big XII. Under the terms of the new Gator-Big East agreement the Gator Bowl will only be able to select Notre Dame 1 time every 4 years instead of 2 as it is currently. Notre Dame is not in a strong position right now.
What does the Gator agreement mean for the MAC? Notre Dame has an agreement with the International so if they don't make a BCS game and are coming off a recent Gator appearance they would drop down to the International. I don't believe anyone in the MAC has ever played Notre Dame before, beating them in Toronto would be a big deal.
The MAC vs. Big East #3/#4 would be the highest selection out there for a non-BCS conference against a BCS conference.
Airport KC Wrote:Potentially more good news for the MAC.
If Notre Dame has 6+ wins they will be taking the Gator Bowl from the Big East. Then you are really talking the Big East #3 in the International Bowl and that could be a ranked team.
Another note of interest, the Big East is looking to regain the Gator Bowl full time from the Big XII. Under the terms of the new Gator-Big East agreement the Gator Bowl will only be able to select Notre Dame 1 time every 4 years instead of 2 as it is currently. Notre Dame is not in a strong position right now.
What does the Gator agreement mean for the MAC? Notre Dame has an agreement with the International so if they don't make a BCS game and are coming off a recent Gator appearance they would drop down to the International. I don't believe anyone in the MAC has ever played Notre Dame before, beating them in Toronto would be a big deal.
The MAC vs. Big East #3/#4 would be the highest selection out there for a non-BCS conference against a BCS conference.
I'm pretty confident ND will not play a non-BCS in a bowl game. They would probably just decline it because they are that arrogant.
When is the last time they played a non-BCS team during the regular season that wasn't a military academy or BYU (who is practically a BCS school playing in a non-BCS)?
ND opens this season vs SDST, ND opens 2009 season vs Nevada. No way ND plays in Birmingham. I could see them play in St Pete if there 6-6. ND proablly never played in Canada, I could see them in Toronto. But you right they get 7 wins there in Char.
epasnoopy Wrote:Airport KC Wrote:Potentially more good news for the MAC.
If Notre Dame has 6+ wins they will be taking the Gator Bowl from the Big East. Then you are really talking the Big East #3 in the International Bowl and that could be a ranked team.
Another note of interest, the Big East is looking to regain the Gator Bowl full time from the Big XII. Under the terms of the new Gator-Big East agreement the Gator Bowl will only be able to select Notre Dame 1 time every 4 years instead of 2 as it is currently. Notre Dame is not in a strong position right now.
What does the Gator agreement mean for the MAC? Notre Dame has an agreement with the International so if they don't make a BCS game and are coming off a recent Gator appearance they would drop down to the International. I don't believe anyone in the MAC has ever played Notre Dame before, beating them in Toronto would be a big deal.
The MAC vs. Big East #3/#4 would be the highest selection out there for a non-BCS conference against a BCS conference.
I'm pretty confident ND will not play a non-BCS in a bowl game. They would probably just decline it because they are that arrogant.
When is the last time they played a non-BCS team during the regular season that wasn't a military academy or BYU (who is practically a BCS school playing in a non-BCS)?
They are playing Nevada. From what I understand they are relaxing their attitude toward playing the non-BCS. Economics, Economics, Economics.
OSU and Michigan twenty years ago would have nothing to do with playing a MAC school now they play 2 of them every year. What they would often do is play those old Southwestern conference schools like TCU, Rice, SMU on 1 and done terms. They were in a major conference but desperate for cash.
The International Bowl agreement does specify Notre Dame in the mix.
templefootballfan Wrote:ND opens this season vs SDST, ND opens 2009 season vs Nevada. No way ND plays in Birmingham. I could see them play in St Pete if there 6-6. ND proablly never played in Canada, I could see them in Toronto. But you right they get 7 wins there in Char.
Who the heck has played in Canada except for WMU, BSU, Rutgers, and UC?
ND has played Akron, Mia, Toledo & West Mich between 1904 & 1920.
ND is only playing SD St and Nevada because they moved their game with BYU a few years back to before the Michigan game. The Mountain West agreed to the move if Notre Dame played 2 more teams from the MWC.
Doggone Wrote:ND is only playing SD St and Nevada because they moved their game with BYU a few years back to before the Michigan game. The Mountain West agreed to the move if Notre Dame played 2 more teams from the MWC.
And how long has Nevada played in the MWC?
The Big East's #4 bowl is the PapaJohn's Bowl now, and St Pete is the #5 bowl. The International Bowl is #6 now.
CatsClaw Wrote:The Big East's #4 bowl is the PapaJohn's Bowl now, and St Pete is the #5 bowl. The International Bowl is #6 now.
Well, that means there is probably a good possibility the BE won't be able to fill the game then.
It's getting ridiculous that BCS conferences have bowl tie-ins for 70%+ of their teams.
templefootballfan Wrote:ND opens this season vs SDST, ND opens 2009 season vs Nevada. No way ND plays in Birmingham. I could see them play in St Pete if there 6-6. ND proablly never played in Canada, I could see them in Toronto. But you right they get 7 wins there in Char.
ND is seeking an easier schedule. Every BCS conference has cupcakes that combined with playing 2 or 3 Mid-Majors helps to ease the strains of the season on a ranked team. ND has Army and Navy but the rest of their season offers no brakes. I see many more non-BCS schools visiting South Bend in the future.
Airport KC Wrote:Potentially more good news for the MAC.
If Notre Dame has 6+ wins they will be taking the Gator Bowl from the Big East. Then you are really talking the Big East #3 in the International Bowl and that could be a ranked team.
Another note of interest, the Big East is looking to regain the Gator Bowl full time from the Big XII. Under the terms of the new Gator-Big East agreement the Gator Bowl will only be able to select Notre Dame 1 time every 4 years instead of 2 as it is currently. Notre Dame is not in a strong position right now.
What does the Gator agreement mean for the MAC? Notre Dame has an agreement with the International so if they don't make a BCS game and are coming off a recent Gator appearance they would drop down to the International. I don't believe anyone in the MAC has ever played Notre Dame before, beating them in Toronto would be a big deal.
The MAC vs. Big East #3/#4 would be the highest selection out there for a non-BCS conference against a BCS conference.
For ND to go to gator bowl they can only have one less win than the BE #2.. thus a 7-5 Nd is unlikely to go. they likely will have to win 8 or 9 to be eligible. I think the same is true of all the BE bowls.
westernwilly Wrote:ND is seeking an easier schedule. Every BCS conference has cupcakes that combined with playing 2 or 3 Mid-Majors helps to ease the strains of the season on a ranked team. ND has Army and Navy but the rest of their season offers no brakes. I see many more non-BCS schools visiting South Bend in the future.
Spot on, willy. It seems the Irish are waking up and smelling the coffee. They aren't going to get a top-level bowl game just because they wear gold helmets. The big BCS-conference schools have figured out the equation. If you have enough cupcakes in your OOC schedule, you wind up with a nice 3-1 cushion; so if you just go .500 in your conference, you're 7-5 and bowl-bound. Run your OOC table and go 5-3 in conference and, bingo, your 9-3 and cashing a much fatter bowl check.