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Quote:I really like CMU, I’ve always been a fan of theirs since I started playing football. I’ve been to a couple games and their campus is nice, the facilities are great and they have a good engineering program which I’m thinking about going into.”

Both WMU and CMU offered a kid from Hemlock this week (O-linemen).

CMU's engineering program is not accredited.

There are several reasons to go to CMU.

1. No shortage of fat chicks
2. Easy access to throwing away your money (casino)
3. Within a short drive of a Kilwin's Fudge shop
4. Formerly the home of some of the states finest pork chops
5. Accidental felonies can be plea bargained down

However, going there for the engineering program tells you just how little research this northern lower has done. Come on kid, fess up with the real reason. It's 40 miles from your house. No shame in that.

You forgot to add the funny in?

^Worst sockpuppet ever

Quote:CMU's engineering program is not accredited.

Never has been, while WMU's Engineering Program has been Accredited by the ABET since the 1970's.

How's our Solar Car program doing this year???? With the price of fuel going up and up these sort of things are going to become more and more important. The world will go Green, or face an economic catastrophe. And I am not exagerrating.

All market driven Phil. It's going green, because we're losing too much green ($$$). You see it every day in your work. When internal combustion costs more than alternatives, then IC will start to be phased out.................which will then force oil prices down................you get the drill.

WMU engineering school:



CMU engineering school:



CMU car piloted by error.

BP
WMU is building a new car for this years race and one can follow the progress on the following website.
http://sunseeker2008.blogspot.com/

Quote:All market driven Phil.

Really, ALL market driven? No outside influences to the contrary?

Why can’t people understand how great the market is, and how it never fails to produce the desired results?
If you think food is getting expense you don't have to worry about it. Food prices will lower when enough people starve to death and no longer consume food. Gas prices to high. Just wait until it becomes too expensive for the nation to engage in commerce. Once this happens we (the private sector of course, since any government involvement would be socialism) will have the proper motivation to transition our infrastructure to cleaner, safer, cheaper, and more sustainable alternatives.

Its such a great system (for those left alive and functioning). Interfering with its beautiful simplicity would be like an affront to god.

Quote:It's going green, because we're losing too much green ($$$).

Mostly market driven. The Auto Industry is also required to meet Federal Fuel Economy mandates. But as the price of fuel climbs, those mandates are passed over by public demand.

I mean it folks, the price of fuel is up and it's going to stay up. Demand is at an all time high with China and India increasing their requirements. Petroleum production and especially refining capacity can't keep up with the demand. Supply and Demand is what it's all about.

We won't see prices below $ 3/gallon again in our lifetimes. And by next summer it'll be $ 4/gallon or higher, most likely. Hybrid vehicles like I'm working on are an attempt to lower demand in the short term-an interim measure only.

The long term solution is fuel cell vehicles-direct conversion of hydrogen into electric power. GM is working FULL BORE on these solutions as is Toyota and Honda. The rest of the automobile companies less so, but they'll have to get onboard.

You're going to see transportation technology change more in the next 10-15 years than it has in the last 100. No question in my mind about that.

Quote:Why can’t people understand how great the market is, and how it never fails to produce the desired results?

Given time the market responds to demand, but when demand changes very quickly-as in the price of fuel-it can take significant time for the markets to respond.

Price of fuel is not going to come down. It will stay high.

Marke response will be as follows:

1. Conservation-people driving less and keeping thermostats down.
2. Interim Solutions-Hybrid vehicles and more insulation in homes.
3. Long Term Solutions-New Energy solutions (fusion, fuel cells, etc.) and homes designed more efficiently.

If it were truly a free market, we would have seen innovations like we're starting to see a long time ago. Also,the commodities trading has a large hand in the price of oil, since our dollar and economy are tanking, the money is going there to buy up futures and hedge, that doesn't help the cause and overall supply and demand is only a part of the equation, they're betting on high demand and low supply, and it's fairly accurate since the major players are few and easily identified and very predictable.

Our government gives HUGE tax breaks to the Oil companies, and they own the distribution network that any alternative could be used, they're not sharing and it's indicative of a monopoly, not free market of any kind. Right down to the 'cartel'.

Market my a$$. There's that music again, Jethro, go get the door....

I love how people complain about the free market, while loving government control. Prices have remained stable for 15 years. We've had little or no inflation up until this year when fuel costs took a huge jump.

The only product/service that has bucked the trend of little or no rise in cost is health care. I've negotiated contracts for a number of years and healthcare has always takent double digit jumps, while inflation has been around 3%. Is healthcare a free market driven system. Nope. Prices are highly regulated by the government.

If you're old enough to remember when Nixon instituted price controls in the market, you'll get a clear picture of how great it is when government tries to control it.

Is it perfect? No. But the free market is light years ahead of government contolled economies (See USSR, Cuba among others). When did China take off? When the government stopped regulating when you could wipe your azz.

The market is driving the move to hybreds far faster than D.C. regulation.

Dip,
All the way back to your original post...

He kinda did say that though. He has been a fan since he started playing football and he likes the campus. And accredited or not, CMU in fact does have a good Engineering Program.

So what I see him saying there is.... I like CMU, they have won 2 straight MAC titles. They also just had an O Tackle drafted in the 1st round and playing in the NFL. I trully enjoyed my visits to the campus, and the coaches did a great job of recruiting me and making me feel like this is the best place for me. I am considering going into engineering, and CMU seems to have a good engineering school.

Had someone said, the same thing from the WMU perspective there would be no fault in that either.

Yeah a good program is kind of an issue of prospective. He might think its good because he is comfortable with it. He might change majors at some point. He is probably making a football decision and just mentioning what he wants to study out of obligation. I'm not going to beat up a teenager for calling something a "good program," when it isn't. I decided to go to WMU because it felt right for me when I visited. I don't think I would have done any better of a job articulating that if I was asked about it at the time.

Talking about the free market is useless if you think that any kind of government action to regulate the big oil monopoly or to make healthcare available to more people is equivalent to the Soviet Union under Stalin. "Big government," is not responsible for the rising cost of health care. You can't have a purely market driven system when the outlier is unnecessary and preventable death.

bronco74 Wrote:WMU engineering school:



CMU engineering school:



CMU car piloted by error.

CMU Football program:


WMU Footballprogram:

Ahhh the ignore feature.

Quote:We've had little or no inflation up until this year when fuel costs took a huge jump.

Inflation this year is almost directly related to the depreciation of the dollar with respect to other major world currencies. And that's due primarily to the Bush deficits-mostly the war cost.

Bush has destroyed the US economy with his purposeless invasion of Iraq. It'll take many years for the dollar to recover-if the will is there to make those sacrifices.

Quote:WMU is building a new car for this years race and one can follow the progress on the following website.

Looks great! Man, I wish I had a program like that when I was at Western!

Congres funded the war. Don't spread propaganda. Bush can't spend one dollar with John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, ect walking over to him, sitting down, writing a check, and handing it to him personaly.

Let's not forget that OVER-HALF of the Democratic Senators voted for the invasion in the first place.

Most people don't know that most Democrats were encouraging an invasion of Iraq through out the early 90's and only when public opinion turned did they pick up their picket signs, throw on their tie-dye shirts, and pretend like it was a bad idea.

Here is Al Gore DEMANDING AN INVASION OF IRAQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64

But keep blaming Bush guys....that argument has gotten alot accomplished over the last 5 years.