Georgetown 12-3 22-4
Louisville 11-3 21-6
Notre Dame 10-3 20-5
Connecticut 10-4 21-6
Marquette 9-5 19-6
Cincinnati 8-6 13-13
Pittsburgh 7-6 19-7
West Virginia 7-6 18-8
Villanova 7-7 17-9
Syracuse 7-7 17-10
Seton Hall 5-8 15-11
DePaul 5-8 10-15
Providence 4-10 13-13
St. Johns (N.Y.) 4-10 10-15
South Florida 2-12 11-16
Rutgers 2-12 10-17
Need to root hard for Louisville tomorrow and Providence tonight.
Theoretically, we should end up 10-8 BE, 15-15 overall.
Edit: That was a typo. But thank you for pointing it out.
that would be fuzzy math, one we have 4 BE games left so we cant end up 10-6... 10-8 and then we would be 15-15
I almost think it's better if Pitt beats UL.
It will keep that first Pitt win as a Top 25. And is it likely that Pitt will lose 4 in a row (Cincy being the 4th)?
Guess that wouldn't matter either way...
The Big East has a legitimate shot at getting 8-9 teams in the big dance, I dont care what any "expert" says. All those teams with 17+ wins and a .500 BE record are deserving of a bid.
Coopdaddy67 Wrote:The Big East has a legitimate shot at getting 8-9 teams in the big dance, I dont care what any "expert" says. All those teams with 17+ wins and a .500 BE record are deserving of a bid.
I don't disagree, but I think that this crazy conference being so huge is going to hose a team or two every single year until the football teams break away or something.
I agree. The conference is just to big. When Tranghese and others are trying to sell to the Selection Committee that the Big East should be viewed as "two separate leagues" the handwriting is on the wall.
when they did that mock tournament section in the enquirer, i thought i remembered them saying that there cannot be more than two teams from the same conference in one region, which would mean the big east could not have more than eight teams. does anyone know if thats true?
the Pitt game is huge - win that one and things will look much better. That team is very beatable, more so than UConn. AND can't lose any home games.
keep recruiting mick!
realtime rpi at 76 - not much change.
As of this morning, the Big East has 6 teams in the rpi top 22 - #8 Georgetown, #11 UConn, #15 Louisville, #16 Marquette, #20 Notre Dame, and #22 Pittsburgh.
8 teams in the top 50 when you factor in #43 West Virginia and #46 Syracuse (both beaten by UC).
Villanova #56
Seton Hall #69
UC # 76
1. If the NCAA Committee goes completely by rpi, UC doesn't stand a chance.
2. If they actually look at the progression of your season and factor in early injuries that resulted in early bad losses, factor in the improvement over the course of the season, and then factor in that improvement shown by your good conference record, also factoring in the toughness of your conference............then UC might stand a chance if they finish 6th in the conference standings out of 16 teams.
3. If they look at the conference teams higher than UC and their head to head meetings, factoring in UC's good wins over Louisville and Pitt, and then the fact that they beat West Virginia on the road and Syracuse at home, all 4 currently top 50 rpi teams...............and then factor in that UC finished ahead of West Virginia and Syracuse in the Big East..................does that put UC ahead of them, or again do they go strictly by rpi?
The rpi does not measure a team's drastic improvement over the course of a season.
CincyCatz1224 Wrote:when they did that mock tournament section in the enquirer, i thought i remembered them saying that there cannot be more than two teams from the same conference in one region, which would mean the big east could not have more than eight teams. does anyone know if thats true?
It's possible to have more then 2 teams in one region as long as they're not setup to face each other in the first or second round of the NCAAs. Example, if Louisville is a 2 seed then UC can't be a 15 seed, 10 seed or 7 seed in Louisville's bracket. But they can be paired up to face Louisville in the Sweet 16 or Elite Eight of the same region. So it's possible to have up to 4 teams from one conference in a bracket. Example, you could have Georgetown as a 1 seed, Louisville as a 2 seed, Connecticut as a 3 seed and Cincinnati as a 4 seed in a mock scenerio. That would guarantee that a Big East team doesn't face each other until the Sweet 16. That rule is in effect if you have more then 8 teams from a conference (which clearly has never happened).
13. Conference teams shall not meet each other prior to the regional final unless a ninth team is selected from a conference. Two teams from the same conference within the same region, therefore, shall not be seeded together in either of the following groups: Nos. 1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 12, 13 and 16; or Nos. 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 14 and 15.
14. There shall not be more than two teams from a conference in one region unless a ninth team is selected from a conference.
Other interesting rules:
[b]12. In lines No. 5-12, two teams from the same conference may be placed in the same group of four.
18. If the committee is unable to reconcile the bracket after exhausting all possible options, it has the flexibility to waive principle No. 13 to permit two teams from the same conference to meet each other after the first round, if the conference has more than five participants.
I also think it's important to finish in 6th place in the BE, and not let WVU, Syracuse, Villanova or Pittsburgh tie or jump over us. Beating Pittsburgh would be huge.
An at large just seems so unlikely at this point, but never say never. I'd be happy with the NIT. Having said that, if G-Town could somehow get knocked off early in the Big East Tournament.. I think we'd have a shot.
West Virginia beat Providence 80-56 tonight.
BcatMatt13 Wrote:West Virginia beat Providence 80-56 tonight.
They're most likely in the tournament comfortably as long as they dont collapse. UC is their only "bad loss", which isnt really that bad.
Huggs has been looking pretty good the past couple games.
I wouldn't mind seeing WVU in the Big East Tournament.
If UC wins its last two home games, they are likely to finish in 6th place. All the others would need to go 3-1 to tie us and we hold the advantage with WVU, Nova and Syracuse. WVU has the easiest schedule They are at Uconn and host Pitt. Pitt has a bear of schedule, they face Ville tomorrow at noon, and are at Cuse and WVU, Cuse is even worse as they faces Pitt, at Notre Dame at Seton Hall and host Marquette. Since the teams behind us also play each other if we take care of business, we should be in pretty good shape. Villanova could sneak in, they are playing well but again if they go 3-1, we hold the tie breaker.
As I said earlier, GT last game was Monday so they had a couple of extra days to prepare for us and it showed. Hopefully since Pitt plays tomorrow the extra day will
pay off for us.
pobearman Wrote:If UC wins its last two home games, they are likely to finish in 6th place. All would need to go 3-1 to tie us and we hold the advantage with WVU and Syracuse. WVU has the easiest schedule would need to go They are at Uconn and host Pitt. Pitt has a bear of schedule, they face Ville tomorrow at noon, and are at Cuse and WVU, Cuse is even worse as they faces Pitt, at Notre Dame at Seton Hall and host Marquette. Since the teams behind us also play each other if we take care of business, we should be in pretty good shape. Villanova could sneak in, they are playing well but again if they go 3-1, we hold the tie breaker.
As I said earlier, GT last game was Monday so they had a couple of extra days to prepare for us and it showed. Hopefully since Pitt plays tomorrow the extra day will
pay off for us.
Good post.
Sunday morning RPI from realtimerpi.com:
RPI Rk Big East Conf All RPI SOS Rk SOS
7 Georgetown 12-3 22-4 0.6431 42 0.5612
12 Connecticut 10-4 21-6 0.6297 13 0.5803
15 Louisville 11-3 21-6 0.6213 17 0.5764
17 Marquette 10-5 19-6 0.6167 25 0.5697
20 Pittsburgh 7-6 18-7 0.6101 33 0.5660
21 Notre Dame 10-3 20-5 0.6091 73 0.5455
36 West Virginia 8-6 18-8 0.5900 43 0.5605
46 Syracuse 7-7 17-10 0.5790 14 0.5803
49 Villanova 7-7 17-9 0.5779 54 0.5536
73 Seton Hall 6-8 16-11 0.5617 44 0.5602
75 Cincinnati 8-6 13-13 0.5564 5 0.5873
105 Providence 4-11 13-14 0.5341 36 0.5650
141 St. John's 4-10 10-16 0.5166 24 0.5701
155 DePaul 5-9 10-16 0.5097 37 0.5647
161 South Florida 2-12 11-16 0.5057 67 0.5482
203 Rutgers 2-13 10-18 0.4746 97 0.5306
I missed on my comment about WVU. They are now tied with us but they still need to go 3-1 to move ahead of us if we split our remaining games. They have 3 road games and one home game left. The toughest part of their schedule is they go to UConn next Saturday and then play Pitt at home on Monday. I also think St Johns could give them trouble at St Johns