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The NCAA has once again redefined what is a home game and what is a neutral-site game.

Apparently, they did this in September. However, they didn't announce it until last week.

Jerry Palm is calling the new rules more fair, but he thinks it's appalling the NCAA waited until the season was midway through to tell anyone.

The NCAA Web site, by the way, still lists the old rules. Go figure.

http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/stor...08abh.html
I wonder if this affects the Kentucky game?
So UK will be a road win for us.
yep
I agree that changing the rules midseason is unfair to some extent, however, keep in mind that the RPI initially was a formula that was supposed to be secret and used only by the commitee at the end of the season. Under that scenario, tweaking it isn't unfair to anyone since the committee is the only one supposed to be using it.

However, once everyone figured out the formula and started trying to manipulate it to their advantage, that is where changing the rules mid season is unfair. You can't manipulate a moving target.

If the NCAA committee still feels that the RPI is theirs and theirs alone to use, they can change it anytime they wish. Changing it so many times that no one knows what the rules are might reduce its importance and the manipulation of it.

People like Palm who have made their career on its interpretation are going to be the most upset about the changes.
Memphis Blazer Wrote:I agree that changing the rules midseason is unfair to some extent, however, keep in mind that the RPI initially was a formula that was supposed to be secret and used only by the commitee at the end of the season. Under that scenario, tweaking it isn't unfair to anyone since the committee is the only one supposed to be using it.

However, once everyone figured out the formula and started trying to manipulate it to their advantage, that is where changing the rules mid season is unfair. You can't manipulate a moving target.

If the NCAA committee still feels that the RPI is theirs and theirs alone to use, they can change it anytime they wish. Changing it so many times that no one knows what the rules are might reduce its importance and the manipulation of it.

People like Palm who have made their career on its interpretation are going to be the most upset about the changes.

Seeing as the ones manipulating the RPI were mostly non-B©S conferences, seems the NCAA might be acting out of protectionism by releasing the rule changes at midseason. And yes, I know we're talking about basketball.
Yeah, all of the BCS teams believe that they have built in protection with the RPI by playing their conference schedules. Only the non BCS teams need to manipulate the RPI. Making the changes midstream is just another way of the NCAA telling the little guy to shove it.
I was beginning to wonder because there was a split in the two sources I normally look at for the RPI. Normally the two would be identical, but I noticed this year that one of them seems to have changed. I personally DO think it's more fair because now it may discourage some of the big schools from playing "neutral" games in cities that they know are full of their fans.
Blazer85 Wrote:I was beginning to wonder because there was a split in the two sources I normally look at for the RPI. Normally the two would be identical, but I noticed this year that one of them seems to have changed. I personally DO think it's more fair because now it may discourage some of the big schools from playing "neutral" games in cities that they know are full of their fans.

I doubt you are going to see Duke not playing in MSG just because the NCAA considers it a home game for them.

$ > RPI

;-)
iisaphd Wrote:
Blazer85 Wrote:I was beginning to wonder because there was a split in the two sources I normally look at for the RPI. Normally the two would be identical, but I noticed this year that one of them seems to have changed. I personally DO think it's more fair because now it may discourage some of the big schools from playing "neutral" games in cities that they know are full of their fans.

I doubt you are going to see Duke not playing in MSG just because the NCAA considers it a home game for them.

$ > RPI

;-)

I don't think MSG would be considered a Duke home game. But Charlotte, yes.
iisaphd Wrote:I doubt you are going to see Duke not playing in MSG just because the NCAA considers it a home game for them.

$ > RPI

;-)

Duke doesn't have much of a problem with the RPI because of one overwelming fact - They win games, home, road, or nuetral.
Uab91Eng Wrote:
iisaphd Wrote:I doubt you are going to see Duke not playing in MSG just because the NCAA considers it a home game for them.

$ > RPI

;-)

Duke doesn't have much of a problem with the RPI because of one overwelming fact - They win games, home, road, or nuetral.

Yeah, but I think the issue might be: What larger cities would be considered a home game for what colleges?
MC Blazer Wrote:
Uab91Eng Wrote:
iisaphd Wrote:I doubt you are going to see Duke not playing in MSG just because the NCAA considers it a home game for them.

$ > RPI

;-)

Duke doesn't have much of a problem with the RPI because of one overwelming fact - They win games, home, road, or nuetral.

Yeah, but I think the issue might be: What larger cities would be considered a home game for what colleges?

I understand. This would only really apply to us when we start drawing crowds that would cause us to move the game to BJCC. I would like us to reach the point that it becomes a surprise to everyone in the country when UAB doesn't make the NCAA tournament each year. Then the BJCC would be the requested spot by some schools rather than Bartow.
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