12-11-2007, 10:40 AM
I don't think there are many other coaches out there right now who could have done what he's done at Memphis...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/c...lick-refer
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/c...lick-refer
3601 Wrote:I don't think there are many other coaches out there right now who could have done what he's done at Memphis...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/c...lick-refer
CyberBull Wrote:3601 Wrote:I don't think there are many other coaches out there right now who could have done what he's done at Memphis...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/c...lick-refer
Are we witnessing the 21st Century version of the UNLV, sans the multiple national championships?
That is, Memphis is definitely an elite program, but it plays in a sub-par conference and as a consequence it's accomplishments are often overlooked for the majority of the season. Thus while teams like Syracuse face off against Georgetown, or UNC plays Duke, Memphis has no attention grabbing games once conference play starts. If Memphis had to play in the BIG EAST or ACC it would not have such a gaudy record. Maybe that will change in the future....
The one remarkable thing about Memphis's recent success is that Cal can continually put together great recruiting classes despite playing the majority of their schedule against CUSA opponents. The guy must be a GREAT salesman.
esayem Wrote:2 things:
UNLV actually won just 1 national championship.
Conference affiliation is not important: Gonzaga, Butler, So. Illinois, Xavier to name a few current examples. Those schools would shard on half the Huge East, sorry 16 is ridiculous. I am not dissing the conference, just pointing out BCS conference affiliation is rather irrelevant to the hardwood.
esayem Wrote:2 things:
UNLV actually won just 1 national championship.
Conference affiliation is not important: Gonzaga, Butler, So. Illinois, Xavier to name a few current examples. Those schools would shard on half the Huge East, sorry 16 is ridiculous. I am not dissing the conference, just pointing out BCS conference affiliation is rather irrelevant to the hardwood.
3601 Wrote:I don't think there are many other coaches out there right now who could have done what he's done at Memphis...You have a CUSA board for that stuff too...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/c...lick-refer
CatsClaw Wrote:esayem Wrote:2 things:
UNLV actually won just 1 national championship.
Conference affiliation is not important: Gonzaga, Butler, So. Illinois, Xavier to name a few current examples. Those schools would shard on half the Huge East, sorry 16 is ridiculous. I am not dissing the conference, just pointing out BCS conference affiliation is rather irrelevant to the hardwood.
You're making it seem like UNLV didn't accomplish much. They won a national title, and then went undefeated the following year all the way to the Final Four and lost. That was a great run by UNLV.
esayem Wrote:CatsClaw Wrote:esayem Wrote:2 things:
UNLV actually won just 1 national championship.
Conference affiliation is not important: Gonzaga, Butler, So. Illinois, Xavier to name a few current examples. Those schools would shard on half the Huge East, sorry 16 is ridiculous. I am not dissing the conference, just pointing out BCS conference affiliation is rather irrelevant to the hardwood.
You're making it seem like UNLV didn't accomplish much. They won a national title, and then went undefeated the following year all the way to the Final Four and lost. That was a great run by UNLV.
Nice try, but all I was saying is they won a single title, not multiple.
stpnum4 Wrote:Calipari is dirty...
KState1125 Wrote:3601 Wrote:I don't think there are many other coaches out there right now who could have done what he's done at Memphis...You have a CUSA board for that stuff too...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/c...lick-refer
http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=439
wvucrazed Wrote:I've always liked Calipari. His teams at UMASS were always exciting to watch. We had some great battles with UMASS back in the A-10 days.
Gray Avenger Wrote:wvucrazed Wrote:I've always liked Calipari. His teams at UMASS were always exciting to watch. We had some great battles with UMASS back in the A-10 days.
How many of you know that Memphis played AT UMass while Calipari was the coach there (1996?)? It was nationally televised: they were ranked #1 and we were ranked #2. UMass won by one point, as I remember.
3601 Wrote:Gray Avenger Wrote:wvucrazed Wrote:I've always liked Calipari. His teams at UMASS were always exciting to watch. We had some great battles with UMASS back in the A-10 days.
How many of you know that Memphis played AT UMass while Calipari was the coach there (1996?)? It was nationally televised: they were ranked #1 and we were ranked #2. UMass won by one point, as I remember.
Minor corrections. We were ranked #3. We lost 64-61.
Eastside_J Wrote:esayem Wrote:CatsClaw Wrote:esayem Wrote:2 things:
UNLV actually won just 1 national championship.
Conference affiliation is not important: Gonzaga, Butler, So. Illinois, Xavier to name a few current examples. Those schools would shard on half the Huge East, sorry 16 is ridiculous. I am not dissing the conference, just pointing out BCS conference affiliation is rather irrelevant to the hardwood.
You're making it seem like UNLV didn't accomplish much. They won a national title, and then went undefeated the following year all the way to the Final Four and lost. That was a great run by UNLV.
Nice try, but all I was saying is they won a single title, not multiple.
BCS conference affiliation is unimportant?
That has got to be news to the schools you listed (gonzaga, butler, Xavier, So Ill) since not only have none of them ever been to a championship game, not a single one has ever been to a final four.
Here are some quick ones for you...
Q: 2000 -2007 there have been 28 final four spots. How many were reached by non-bcs schools????
A: 3 -George Mason, Marquette Louisville
Q 1990-2000 there were 40 final four spots How many were reached by non-bcs schools???
A: 3 - Umass, Cincinnati, UNLV
Soooo in the last 17 years of basketball 6 teams out of 68 have reached the final four that weren't part of a BCS conference. If you subtract out the ones in that group that are now BCS schools ( Cincinnati, Marquette, Louisville) it leaves you with 3 total schools in 17 years who have made it to a final four. None made it to the championship game.
Still think BCS affiliation isn't an issue on the hardwood?
esayem Wrote:Eastside_J Wrote:esayem Wrote:CatsClaw Wrote:esayem Wrote:2 things:
UNLV actually won just 1 national championship.
Conference affiliation is not important: Gonzaga, Butler, So. Illinois, Xavier to name a few current examples. Those schools would shard on half the Huge East, sorry 16 is ridiculous. I am not dissing the conference, just pointing out BCS conference affiliation is rather irrelevant to the hardwood.
You're making it seem like UNLV didn't accomplish much. They won a national title, and then went undefeated the following year all the way to the Final Four and lost. That was a great run by UNLV.
Nice try, but all I was saying is they won a single title, not multiple.
BCS conference affiliation is unimportant?
That has got to be news to the schools you listed (gonzaga, butler, Xavier, So Ill) since not only have none of them ever been to a championship game, not a single one has ever been to a final four.
Here are some quick ones for you...
Q: 2000 -2007 there have been 28 final four spots. How many were reached by non-bcs schools????
A: 3 -George Mason, Marquette Louisville
Q 1990-2000 there were 40 final four spots How many were reached by non-bcs schools???
A: 3 - Umass, Cincinnati, UNLV
Soooo in the last 17 years of basketball 6 teams out of 68 have reached the final four that weren't part of a BCS conference. If you subtract out the ones in that group that are now BCS schools ( Cincinnati, Marquette, Louisville) it leaves you with 3 total schools in 17 years who have made it to a final four. None made it to the championship game.
Still think BCS affiliation isn't an issue on the hardwood?
Can you tell me what that has to do with the BCS tag? Didn't think so. BCS stands for Bowl Championship Series, not Basketball Conference Superiority. When a non-BCS team beats a BCS team in football then it is big news a lot of the time, in basketball it happens on the daily. Final Fours and championships are hard enough to reach and most big time programs only have the strength to get there; it is the program/coach which is most important for college basketball, not the BCS. Thanks for your time.