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I decided to crunch some numbers to see how the BCS compared to the non-BCS and where the dollars go is easy
to see.

Total Bowls 32 = 64 Teams in Post Season out of 120 = 53 % Of Teams go to Post Season.

BCS------Ranked by % of Teams Invited-----------BCS Bowls (High Paying)

Big East---6 out of 8 teams----75%-----------------1
Big 10-----8 out of 11 teams---73%-----------------2
SEC--------8 out of 12 teams---67%-----------------2
Big 12-----8 out of 12 teams---67%-----------------2
Pac 10-----6 out of 10 teams---60%-----------------1
ACC--------7 out of 12 teams---58%-----------------1

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-Total BCS Invited 43 Teams-out of 65 Teams(66%)---9 out of 10 BCS slots

Non-BCS

CUSA------7 out of 12 teams 58%
MTN.West--5 out of 9 teams 56%
WAC-------4 out of 9 teams 44%-------------------1 out of 10 BCS slots
IND.------1 out of 4 teams 25%
MAC-------3 out of 13 teams 23%
SBC-------1 out of 8 teams 13%
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Total Non-BCS Invited 21 Teams out of 55 Teams (38%)

MAC had 3 bowl eligible teams so the conference got no fewer bids than it earned. With a 12 game season, the NCAA Needs to require a 7-5 record for bowl eligibility; 6-6 isn't enough.

...and they get 90% of the bowl revenue.

which is probably fair, since their fans generate 90% of the revenue

cleazer Wrote:which is probably fair, since their fans generate 90% of the revenue

Give non-BCS teams access to those same bowls and payouts and we would be doing just as well. Think about how many people show up just to go to those games with no affiliation to a school.

So on a related note, how many teams with winning records or 6 wins didn't make it to a bowl? Was Troy the only team with a winning record that didn't make it?

This list contains a couple of inaccuracies as the Big East has 5 teams in bowls, the SEC has 9 teams in bowls, the ACC has 8 teams in bowls, and CUSA has 6 teams in bowls.

Corrected Bowl Stats (BCS gets 69 % of their teams invited)

BCS gets 69 % of Bowl Slots

44 out of 64 total

I decided to crunch some numbers and where the dollars go is easy
to see. As you can see you can compare the SBC Ratings with CUSA
but a big difference in Bowl Bids. Troy should have been in.

Total Bowls 32 = 64 Teams in Post Season out of 120 = 53 % Of Teams go to Post Season.

BCS------number and % of Teams Invited-----------BCS Bowls (High Paying)

Big East---5 out of 8 teams----63%-----------------1
Big 10-----8 out of 11 teams---73%-----------------2
SEC--------9 out of 12 teams---75%-----------------2
Big 12-----8 out of 12 teams---67%-----------------2
Pac 10-----6 out of 10 teams---60%-----------------1
ACC--------8 out of 12 teams---67%-----------------1

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-Total BCS Invited 44 Teams-out of 65 BCS Teams(68%)---9 out of 10 BCS slots

Non-BCS

CUSA------6 out of 12 teams 50%
MTN.West--5 out of 9 teams 56%
WAC-------4 out of 9 teams 44%-------------------1 out of 10 BCS slots
IND.------1 out of 4 teams 25%
MAC-------3 out of 13 teams 23%
SBC-------1 out of 8 teams 13%
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Total Non-BCS Invited 20 Teams out of 55 non BCS Teams (36%)

cleazer Wrote:So on a related note, how many teams with winning records or 6 wins didn't make it to a bowl? Was Troy the only team with a winning record that didn't make it?

Iowa
Louisiana-Monroe
Louisville
Ohio
Northwestern
South Carolina
Miami (OH)
Troy

All tied up
Posted by Administrator
on December 03rd 2007 to General

It was bound to happen eventually. Just a shame it happened this year.

There are 64 spots available for teams to go to bowl games. Going into the season all 64 are covered by either the BCS agreement or a primary contract with a team or conference. Each bowl may have two primary contracts so if the team or conference contracted with doesn’t have the needed 7-5 or better record, they may go at 6-6. Additionally a few bowls have secondary contracts. The conference or team is assured a bid if there is an opening and the team is 7-5 or better.

Of the 64 spots, 63 were filled by the BCS agreement or primary contracts. The only bowl that came up short was the Texas Bowl when the Big 12 ended up short a team with the surprising selection of Kansas for a BCS bowl. The Texas Bowl though had a secondary contract with the Mountain West and it just so happened that the Mountain West had 7-5 TCU without a place to go. The contract kicked in and the Horned Frogs became #64, that is they became the last team to join the bowl fraternity leaving Troy sitting at home at 8-4.

It wasn’t a quality issue, after all Sun Belt fans will have several games of interest. Starting with the New Orleans Bowl. The game is always of interest because of the Sun Belt host team but fans of Arkansas State and Middle Tennessee will be especially interested, because while they both lost frustrating games to FAU, they both defeated FAU’s opponent, CUSA member Memphis. Nine days later ULM fans will pay special attention to the Independence Bowl just down I-20 in Shreveport because the SEC representative will be a team they beat, Alabama. The next game of interest happens the next day in Arizona where Oklahoma State, the team Troy beat on television will represent the Big 12.

Right now there are folks feeling like the Sun Belt got a raw deal. It’s not that unusual, in fact it is very common. 2001 some team in the WAC called Boise State couldn’t make a bowl at 8-4. In 2002 Northern Illinois out of the MAC beat Wake Forest finished 8-4 and stayed home because they lost their shot at the conference title by losing at home in their final game. In 2003 wins over Maryland, Alabama, and Iowa State earned Northern Illinois a 10-2 record and the opportunity to sit at home and watch the bowls. Many bowls today exist because other leagues had this same trouble earlier in their existence.
No it wasn’t about quality or what someone did or didn’t (well it was about not winning the most important game of the season) it was about money and contracts.

Most bowl games, that is basically the ones other than the BCS and those taking the top picks from the six traditional power conferences depend on financial support from the participating conferences to survive. To get into one of the existing games either the Sun Belt has to out-bid the current occupant or the bowl committee must be frustrated with one those tied to it by contract. The Sun Belt won’t win a bidding war and the other requires good luck. Instead the Sun Belt is going to have to work with one of the number of cities toying with the idea of creating a new bowl.

The NCAA has historically looked favorably on proposals for new bowl games when one of two things happen. A conference is without a bowl tie for its champion or a deserving team is left in the cold. For about half the current bowls you can flip back in time and see the situation that caused its creation, that is a conference needing a tie or a team with a nice record left at home. Once the Sun Belt finds its dance partner the case will be made easily. Finding the right city is the hard part because it means finding a good geographic fit in a city that isn’t in a state with a Confederate flag as part of the state flag, has a nice stadium preferably a smaller stadium in a community that really wants to grow and sell the event as an addition to the community. Once that part is done the Sun Belt’s case is easy to make, seven seasons in the books and four bowl eligible teams left at home while two others only secured bids due to a lack of available teams.

This article appeared on the Belt Board website on Monday, December 3, 2007.

Iowa finished at 6-6 thanks to my Broncos.

ucbearcat4ever Wrote:

cleazer Wrote:So on a related note, how many teams with winning records or 6 wins didn't make it to a bowl? Was Troy the only team with a winning record that didn't make it?

Iowa
Louisiana-Monroe
Louisville
Ohio
Northwestern
South Carolina
Miami (OH)
Troy

Troy is the only team on that list with a winning record. Everyone else was 6-6 except for Miami at 6-7.

Bowl Gluttony: What to watch, what to miss
Mike Huguenin
Rivals.com College Football Editor

In our quest to help you manage your time during this hectic holiday season, here are our rankings of the "attractiveness" of the bowl matchups.

(An aside: If some of these matchups don't convince you there are about five or six too many bowls, we bet you're related to a conference commissioner or a coach.)

MIKE HUGENIN RANKS THE BOWLS

32. NEW ORLEANS BOWL, Dec. 21, FLORIDA ATLANTIC vs. MEMPHIS.
We'd rather spend time with our mother-in-law than watch this.

31. NEW MEXICO BOWL, Dec. 22, NEVADA at NEW MEXICO.
We'd rather shop for our mother-in-law than watch this.

30. INDEPENDENCE BOWL, Dec. 30, ALABAMA vs. COLORADO.
For the second season in a row, this bowl matches two 6-6 teams. The Tide will be traveling to Shreveport, La., for the second season in a row.

29. INTERNATIONAL BOWL, Jan. 5, BALL STATE vs. RUTGERS.
Ball State has a good quarterback (Nate Davis). Rutgers has a good tailback (Ray Rice). Other than that ...

28. HUMANITARIAN BOWL, Dec. 31, FRESNO STATE vs. GEORGIA TECH.
The Yellow Jackets are looking for a new coach, and we're sure the players will be real psyched to play in Boise on New Year's Eve on that blue field.

27. PAPAJOHNS.COM BOWL, Dec. 22, CINCINNATI vs. SOUTHERN MISS.
Cincy had a really nice season. The reward? A trip to Birmingham, Ala., to play in a stadium that should be destroyed.

26. EMERALD BOWL, Dec. 28, MARYLAND vs. OREGON STATE.
Poor Oregon State. The Beavers finish 8-4, yet still get sent to this bowl.

25. MOTOR CITY BOWL, Dec. 26, CENTRAL MICHIGAN vs. PURDUE.
These teams played Sept. 15, and the Boilermakers won by 23. Why the rematch?

24. ARMED FORCES BOWL, Dec. 31, AIR FORCE vs. CALIFORNIA.
Air Force is fun to watch. Cal was, too, until it … well … hmm, how do we say this nicely? Bottom line: The Golden Bears come in having lost six of their past seven.

23. TEXAS BOWL, Dec. 28, HOUSTON vs. TCU.
If we lived in Texas, we'd care. We don't live in Texas.

22. LAS VEGAS BOWL, Dec. 22, BYU vs. UCLA.
Another rematch. (Arrrggghhh.) The Bruins won by 10 on Sept. 8. But BYU has improved tremendously during the season. The Bruins have not.

21. SUN BOWL, Dec. 31, OREGON vs. USF.
Oregon enters with a three-game losing streak, and its coaches have to be worried about how the Bulls' quick, aggressive defense is going to treat the Ducks' quarterbacks.

20. ALAMO BOWL, Dec. 29, PENN STATE vs. TEXAS A&M.
Hey, we can't wait to see how the Aggies play for Gary Darnell. And we're looking forward to the news conferences with Joe Paterno now that his salary is public record.

19. GMAC BOWL, Jan. 6, BOWLING GREEN vs. TULSA.
Our rule of thumb: As long as there is the possibility of a ton of offense, it's worth watching. These teams average a combined 959.4 yards of offense per game.

18. HAWAII BOWL, Dec. 23, BOISE STATE vs. EAST CAROLINA.
See above. These teams average a combined 853.6 yards of offense per games. Plus, Boise State is a top-25 team. And what else is there to do two days before Christmas – spend time with the family?

17. MUSIC CITY BOWL, Dec. 31, FLORIDA STATE vs. KENTUCKY.
Two veteran coaches (FSU's Bobby Bowden and Kentucky's Rich Brooks) match wits. Plus, can Wildcats QB Andre' Woodson have success against Florida State's defense?

16. CHAMPS SPORTS BOWL, Dec. 28, BOSTON COLLEGE vs. MICHIGAN STATE.
It jumps a few spots because it'll be the final game for BC QB Matt Ryan, who played at an extremely high level for most of the season.

15. POINSETTIA BOWL, Dec. 20, NAVY vs. UTAH.
It gets bonus points for being the first bowl of the season. Plus, it'll be interesting to see whether Navy's powerful rushing attack can make much headway against the Utes' stout defense.

14. MEINEKE CAR CARE BOWL, Dec. 29, CONNECTICUT vs. WAKE FOREST.
A nice game-within-a-game between UConn's defense and Wake's motion-happy offense. Plus, it matches two good coaches (UConn's Randy Edsall and Wake's Jim Grobe), both of whom at least informally talked with schools seeking to fill positions.

13. LIBERTY BOWL, Dec. 29, MISSISSIPPI STATE vs. UCF.
Mississippi State, the SEC's biggest surprise, gets to go against the nation's top rusher in UCF running back Kevin Smith. The junior could set the Division I-A single-season rushing record if he picks up 181 yards. His average is 188.3 ypg.

12. INSIGHT BOWL, Dec. 31, INDIANA vs. OKLAHOMA STATE.
Indiana is one of the best feel-good stories of the season because of how the Hoosiers rallied in the wake of the offseason death of coach Terry Hoeppner. Plus, both offenses are good and both defenses are mediocre – which means there should be a lot of points.

11. ROSE BOWL, Jan. 1, ILLINOIS vs. USC.
Yes, the Illini have had a nice season. But on the face of it, this doesn't look as if it'll be a close game. Still, Ron Zook in the Rose Bowl is a cool thing.

10. OUTBACK BOWL, Jan. 1, TENNESSEE vs. WISCONSIN.
The Vols make their second consecutive trip to Tampa, Fla., for the postseason. The Outback is one of those intriguing Big Ten-SEC matchups.

9. ORANGE BOWL, Jan. 3, KANSAS vs. VIRGINIA TECH.
Last season's Orange Bowl matching Louisville and Wake Forest was close, but not all that entertaining. Why do we think this will be like that?

8. GATOR BOWL, Jan. 1, TEXAS TECH vs. VIRGINIA.
Texas Tech wings it all over the place; UVa. plays it close to the vest. Plus, the personality difference between Tech coach Mike Leach and Cavs counterpart Al Groh is as wide as the Pacific Ocean, which could make for some interesting news conferences.

7. CHICK-FIL-A BOWL, Dec. 31, AUBURN vs. CLEMSON.
Talk about a tough ticket. While it has been a decade, the Bowden family still harbors some ill will about how Terry was treated by Auburn officials.

6. COTTON BOWL, Jan. 1, ARKANSAS vs. MISSOURI.
In all likelihood, Darren McFadden's last college game. You have to feel for Mizzou; the Tigers were one win from playing for the national title but ended up here.

5. CAPITAL ONE BOWL, Jan. 1, FLORIDA vs. MICHIGAN.
Two of the nation's premier programs play in what essentially will be a home game for the Gators.

4. FIESTA BOWL, Jan. 2, OKLAHOMA vs. WEST VIRGINIA.
If WVU is over its post-Pitt hangover (how in the world did the Mountaineers lose to Pitt – at home?), this could be interesting.

3. SUGAR BOWL, Jan. 1, GEORGIA vs. HAWAII.
Big-time curiosity factor at work in this one. Hawaii's offense gives the Warriors a puncher's chance. But can the Warriors' defense stymie the Bulldogs?

2. HOLIDAY BOWL, Dec. 27, ARIZONA STATE vs. TEXAS.
The Sun Devils can make a case that they belong in the BCS. And if not for a loss to Texas A&M in the regular-season finale, Texas may have been in the BCS.

1. BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME, Jan. 7, LSU vs. OHIO STATE.
Hey, it's for the national title. It doesn't get any better than that.

This list appeared on the Rivals website on Monday, December 3, 2007.