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CONFERENCE CENTRAL MEAN SIMPLE AVERAGE TEAMS

1 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 79.82 79.61 ( 1) 12
2 PAC-10 (A) = 78.90 78.50 ( 2) 10
3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.56 77.68 ( 3) 12
4 BIG EAST (A) = 78.02 77.65 ( 4) 8
5 BIG TEN (A) = 76.12 76.33 ( 5) 11
6 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 75.57 75.11 ( 6) 12
7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 71.04 70.33 ( 7) 9
8 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A) = 65.15 65.65 ( 8) 9
9 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 64.80 64.93 ( 9) 4
10 MID-AMERICAN (A) = 62.38 62.47 ( 10) 13
11 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 62.15 62.19 ( 11) 12
12 SUN BELT (A) = 58.23 58.42 ( 12) 8
This is what happens when you lose 21-7 to Middle Tennessee and 62-12 to South Florida.

CUSA would be smart to split. Top to bottom in basketball/football with Memphis they could do so much better.

Memphis
UAB
Louisiana Tech
Tulsa
Houston
SMU
Central Florida
East Carolina
Southern Miss.

#1 Liberty
#2 GMAC
#3 Ft.Worth
#4 N.O. Bowl


Then you'd have the SWC-12

UTEP
Arkansas St.
Rice
Louisiana Lff.
North Texas
Tulane

Marshall (good academic fit)
Western Ky.
Middle Tenn.
Troy
Florida Atlantic
Florida International

#1 N.O. Bowl
#2 Papa John's
I think that the MAC needs to set their sites for competing every year in the Sagarins with the WAC.
Big East has surpassed the Big Ten...wow.
i dont even understand what this means
Marcus13 Wrote:i dont even understand what this means

i can tell you what it means...nothing! 03-yawn
The Big East had actually been number two or number three most of this season. Pitt losing to Navy and Connecticut falling to Virginia this week caused the Big East to slip, oh so slightly, to number four for the first time. The Big 12, Big Ten, and ACC had previously been bringing up the rear all year.
You are either a have or a have not. The rest is meaningless. It's really all about individual teams. I think the Big 10 will take having the national #1 team. Nobody cares about conference depth--it's all about the best team only.
Kit-Cat Wrote:This is what happens when you lose 21-7 to Middle Tennessee and 62-12 to South Florida.

And we know how bad they are.
bobcat_backer Wrote:
Marcus13 Wrote:i dont even understand what this means

i can tell you what it means...nothing! 03-yawn

It means CUSA is no stonger then the MAC.

95% percent of their fans think CUSA is a full step above the MAC.

Also in this day and age if you aren't in a BCS conference it doesn't matter where you are playing. Sun Belt, Mid American, Conference USA, it makes no difference to recruits.

Ten years ago CUSA had a better OOC record then the SEC, both around .500. CUSA was at least as good on the field as the MWC and almost as good as the Big East and the ACC.

CUSA along with MWC have really been crushed by the BCS system.

MAC and SBC have an opportunity to play in a major new year's bowl something they did not have before.

You are seeing the same thing in basketball, CUSA-A10-MWC are not the majors they once were. The Colonial-MVC-WCC have opportunity with Bracket Buster and regular season champ is automatic NIT.
OZoner Wrote:
Kit-Cat Wrote:This is what happens when you lose 21-7 to Middle Tennessee and 62-12 to South Florida.

And we know how bad they are.

UCF is projected to be one of CUSA's top teams.

FAU the week before gave USF a much greater fight.
I think it's fair to say that C-USA's idea of creating a 12 team conference that occupies the Big XII and SEC footprints has failed miserably. There is just no identity to the conference and I think that it has affected recruiting. I'm also not a big fan of smaller conferences like C-USA and even the MAC having 12 or 13 members. I think that 9 is the magic number for the smaller conferences because it keeps the talent pool distributed evenly.
PhillyPhlash Wrote:I think it's fair to say that C-USA's idea of creating a 12 team conference that occupies the Big XII and SEC footprints has failed miserably. There is just no identity to the conference and I think that it has affected recruiting. I'm also not a big fan of smaller conferences like C-USA and even the MAC having 12 or 13 members. I think that 9 is the magic number for the smaller conferences because it keeps the talent pool distributed evenly.

CUSA also has a bad academic problem with most of its football programs graduating less then half of their players.

Today colleges recruit from all around the country so having a wide footprint is less of an advantage.

Ohio hits the California JUCO's heavily in both football and basketball. Ohio graduates its players which is a strong selling point anywhere.
Kit-Cat Wrote:This is what happens when you lose 21-7 to Middle Tennessee and 62-12 to South Florida.

CUSA would be smart to split. Top to bottom in basketball/football with Memphis they could do so much better.

Memphis
UAB
Louisiana Tech
Tulsa
Houston
SMU
Central Florida
East Carolina
Southern Miss.

#1 Liberty
#2 GMAC
#3 Ft.Worth
#4 N.O. Bowl


Then you'd have the SWC-12

UTEP
Arkansas St.
Rice
Louisiana Lff.
North Texas
Tulane

Marshall (good academic fit)
Western Ky.
Middle Tenn.
Troy
Florida Atlantic
Florida International

#1 N.O. Bowl
#2 Papa John's

What the hell?
Kit-Cat Wrote:
OZoner Wrote:
Kit-Cat Wrote:This is what happens when you lose 21-7 to Middle Tennessee and 62-12 to South Florida.

And we know how bad they are.

UCF is projected to be one of CUSA's top teams.

FAU the week before gave USF a much greater fight.

So? All that means is that every week is different from the next. FAU is not better than UCF.
OZoner Wrote:
Kit-Cat Wrote:
OZoner Wrote:
Kit-Cat Wrote:This is what happens when you lose 21-7 to Middle Tennessee and 62-12 to South Florida.

And we know how bad they are.

UCF is projected to be one of CUSA's top teams.

FAU the week before gave USF a much greater fight.

So? All that means is that every week is different from the next. FAU is not better than UCF.

I don't know who's better. One would have thought UCF would be but I guess its not really the case.
Gooch Wrote:
Kit-Cat Wrote:This is what happens when you lose 21-7 to Middle Tennessee and 62-12 to South Florida.

CUSA would be smart to split. Top to bottom in basketball/football with Memphis they could do so much better.

Memphis
UAB
Louisiana Tech
Tulsa
Houston
SMU
Central Florida
East Carolina
Southern Miss.

#1 Liberty
#2 GMAC
#3 Ft.Worth
#4 N.O. Bowl

What the hell?

The only thing that is holding CUSA together is basketball revenue from the old CUSA days when Louisville and Marquette played in a final four.

In a couple more seasons this CUSA basketball money is going to run out. After repeated horrid basketball/football seasons for the conference I could see a movement led by Memphis to break the conference up for a smaller more profitable one. The bowls will go with the league that has UCF/USM/ECU over the Tulane/Rice conference because of the better attendance numbers.
I still can't believe that the BE hasn't grabed UCF.

That would leave Memphis for the picking but by whom?

I don't see an identity to C-USA. I see an 'East' and a 'West' but no unity. Rice and ECU. That sounds like a NON-conference game to me. 03-lmfao

My "proposal" to add Army would at least fit. Army, Temple, UB, Akron, Kent, Ohio and Miami makes sense.

I could see all kind of new rivalries like Army and UB. Army and Temple.

Don't know if UB and Temple will become rivals.
Kit-Cat Wrote:The only thing that is holding CUSA together is basketball revenue from the old CUSA days when Louisville and Marquette played in a final four.

How's this work? Please explain.
CUSA and MAC are gonna be sending a couple of 7-6 teams to the GMAC this year.
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