I found this interesting- looks like UCF is having talks with WVU about helping out with the Buffalo scheduling problem.
Like I said before, our AD was the CEO of the Orange Bowl and has BE ties. It's not surprising to see him already working with schools like WVU. It doesn't seem as though WVU is our "enemy".
WVU DEPUTY Athletic Director Mike Parsons said that the Mountaineers' scheduling issues with the University of Buffalo over a game the Bulls canceled in 2006 are settled.
WVU had been dealing through the Mid-American and Big East conferences because Buffalo would not return phone calls after it dropped the scheduled game at WVU. The Mountaineers figured they might get a future game with another MAC team to compensate.
Not so.
"We got a check (last week) for $200,000," Parsons said before Friday's game in Tampa. "It came from Buffalo, not the MAC. We had gotten a letter saying they'd probably do that. It was the first we'd heard from them."
Parsons said $200,000 was the contracted game cancellation fee. That leaves WVU with an unsettled date dropped by Central Florida in 2005.
"That should be resolved very soon," Parsons said. "I can't go into it until it's settled, but we've had good conversations with UCF and I expect us to have something very soon."
well, that's good to hear. Hopefully we can get the home game that UCF originally agreed to, and go from there.
hopefully this means we can stop hearing about how UCF and WV are somehow mortal enemies because of a silly over scheduling conflict?
rulethirty Wrote:hopefully this means we can stop hearing about how UCF and WV are somehow mortal enemies because of a silly over scheduling conflict?
I would not classify a scheduling conflict as silly.
Hopefully UCF follows through with the game and then WV helps to vote them into the BE.
panite Wrote:Hopefully UCF follows through with the game and then WV helps to vote them into the BE.
UCF already paid WVU the cancellation fee. The whole issue was blown out of portion by the internet.
It will be interesting if it is a home and away or another 2-1. I know O'Leary doesn't want the 2-1's anymore.
Ed Pastilong threatened to sue UCF and told a group of fans that if there was ever a vote for UCF's inclusion into the Big East, "I can assure you WVU will vote no." That was widely reported by WVU fans and insiders and discussed extensively at the time.
When an AD makes statements like that, I really don't consider it an issue that was blown out of proportion by a few internet message board posters.
That being said, as others have pointed out, that was a prior UCF administration, and time has passed since then. If the relationship between WVU and UCF is repaired, then that's awesome. I'd love to see UCF come back to Morgantown to complete the series they agreed to - it would be a very tough and interesting game.
How any of this would work as to UCF's potential BE membership is anyone's guess, but it obviously can't hurt to be on good terms with as many BE schools as possible.
wvucrazed Wrote:Ed Pastilong threatened to sue UCF and told a group of fans that if there was ever a vote for UCF's inclusion into the Big East, "I can assure you WVU will vote no." That was widely reported by WVU fans and insiders and discussed extensively at the time.
When an AD makes statements like that, I really don't consider it an issue that was blown out of proportion by a few internet message board posters.
That being said, as others have pointed out, that was a prior UCF administration, and time has passed since then. If the relationship between WVU and UCF is repaired, then that's awesome. I'd love to see UCF come back to Morgantown to complete the series they agreed to - it would be a very tough and interesting game.
How any of this would work as to UCF's potential BE membership is anyone's guess, but it obviously can't hurt to be on good terms with as many BE schools as possible.
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wvucrazed Wrote:Ed Pastilong threatened to sue UCF and told a group of fans that if there was ever a vote for UCF's inclusion into the Big East, "I can assure you WVU will vote no." That was widely reported by WVU fans and insiders and discussed extensively at the time.
When an AD makes statements like that, I really don't consider it an issue that was blown out of proportion by a few internet message board posters.
That being said, as others have pointed out, that was a prior UCF administration, and time has passed since then. If the relationship between WVU and UCF is repaired, then that's awesome. I'd love to see UCF come back to Morgantown to complete the series they agreed to - it would be a very tough and interesting game.
How any of this would work as to UCF's potential BE membership is anyone's guess, but it obviously can't hurt to be on good terms with as many BE schools as possible.
It sounds like everything is repaired. I'm not sure how Ed Pastilong could have sued anyway. We paid the buyout. You guys would have to pay us back for our buyout if we decided to play the 1 game. I'm sure that wouldn't be a problem since it was just $50,000. I think WVU needs to relook at buyout amounts if they are using that low of a number.
It sure looks like a good gesture on UCF's part. We need some home games though.
KNIGHTTIME Wrote:panite Wrote:Hopefully UCF follows through with the game and then WV helps to vote them into the BE.
UCF already paid WVU the cancellation fee. The whole issue was blown out of portion by the internet.
It will be interesting if it is a home and away or another 2-1. I know O'Leary doesn't want the 2-1's anymore.
1. It wasn't blown out of proportion. WVU AD's was so upset that he publically discussed suing UCF for damages.
2. O'Leary may say that he only wants home and homes, but he doesn't have much leverage as a non-BCS team.
The Knight Time Wrote:I found this interesting- looks like UCF is having talks with WVU about helping out with the Buffalo scheduling problem.
Like I said before, our AD was the CEO of the Orange Bowl and has BE ties. It's not surprising to see him already working with schools like WVU. It doesn't seem as though WVU is our "enemy".
WVU DEPUTY Athletic Director Mike Parsons said that the Mountaineers' scheduling issues with the University of Buffalo over a game the Bulls canceled in 2006 are settled.
WVU had been dealing through the Mid-American and Big East conferences because Buffalo would not return phone calls after it dropped the scheduled game at WVU. The Mountaineers figured they might get a future game with another MAC team to compensate.
Not so.
"We got a check (last week) for $200,000," Parsons said before Friday's game in Tampa. "It came from Buffalo, not the MAC. We had gotten a letter saying they'd probably do that. It was the first we'd heard from them."
Parsons said $200,000 was the contracted game cancellation fee. That leaves WVU with an unsettled date dropped by Central Florida in 2005.
"That should be resolved very soon," Parsons said. "I can't go into it until it's settled, but we've had good conversations with UCF and I expect us to have something very soon."
Why would you care if UCiF mends its relationship with the BigEast's WVU Mountaineers? Isn't the BigEast the league you love to trash? surely you couldn't have ANY interest in joining the BigEast.
CyberBull Wrote:1. It wasn't blown out of proportion. WVU AD's was so upset that he publically discussed suing UCF for damages.
2. O'Leary may say that he only wants home and homes, but he doesn't have much leverage as a non-BCS team.
It isn't shocking that you take the anti-UCF line. We just got a home and away with NC State. We had a home and away with Purdue years ago. ECU has home and aways with Va Tech, WVU, and many others. It has nothing to do with BCS (autobid) or BCS (non-autobid). UCF is in position to make money from home games since we are averaging over 40K a game. Not to mention every seat at the Bright House is a booster member seat unless you're in the endzone. You would be shocked to know how much booster donations increased this year.
Next year we have NC State and S. Fla at home
KNIGHTTIME Wrote:CyberBull Wrote:1. It wasn't blown out of proportion. WVU AD's was so upset that he publically discussed suing UCF for damages.
2. O'Leary may say that he only wants home and homes, but he doesn't have much leverage as a non-BCS team.
It isn't shocking that you take the anti-UCF line. We just got a home and away with NC State. We had a home and away with Purdue years ago. ECU has home and aways with Va Tech, WVU, and many others. It has nothing to do with BCS (autobid) or BCS (non-autobid). UCF is in position to make money from home games since we are averaging over 40K a game. Not to mention every seat at the Bright House is a booster member seat unless you're in the endzone. You would be shocked to know how much booster donations increased this year.
Next year we have NC State and S. Fla at home
Was Texas home and home, or was it just a 1-time thing to open your stadium?
I'd like to see UCF and various BE teams play over the next few years....it'll give UCF a chance to show what they can do vs BE and may help the invite/or not down the road...
wvucrazed Wrote:Was Texas home and home, or was it just a 1-time thing to open your stadium?
The Texas series is a 2-1. ESPN wanted a big name team to open the stadium. I don't think the 2-1's will be very common though. UCF can now make about the same amount of money if it is Texas or UL-La.
It wouldn't surprise me that we wouldn't try to work something out with WVU due to previous problems. What year do you need a game? We already are booked next year....unless we axe the Miami series?
I don't think there is any question that UCF should be able to pull 1-1 games with BCS-league teams on a regular basis. They would be an attractive TV game for alot of teams. Nobody can deny that the atmosphere at the new stadium during the Texas game was impressive.
That being said, just because UCF is making strides and is having success, doesn't necessarily mean they are right for the BE. USF could have reasons why they wouldn't want UCF as a member. We really don't know their thought process on the issue, but it's easy to assume that since they won't continue the series with UCF, the Bulls admin. wouldn't be gung-ho about their inclusion into the BE.
I can't see other BE schools going to bat for UCF in spite of USF. They are attractive, but there are other candidates that have benefits as well, that might fit better without stepping on the toes of another member.
wvucrazed Wrote:I don't think there is any question that UCF should be able to pull 1-1 games with BCS-league teams on a regular basis. They would be an attractive TV game for alot of teams. Nobody can deny that the atmosphere at the new stadium during the Texas game was impressive.
That being said, just because UCF is making strides and is having success, doesn't necessarily mean they are right for the BE. USF could have reasons why they wouldn't want UCF as a member. We really don't know their thought process on the issue, but it's easy to assume that since they won't continue the series with UCF, the Bulls admin. wouldn't be gung-ho about their inclusion into the BE.
I can't see other BE schools going to bat for UCF in spite of USF. They are attractive, but there are other candidates that have benefits as well, that might fit better without stepping on the toes of another member.
S. Fla will fight to keep UCF out of the Big East. I don't expect UCF to be in the Big East ever.
We must have a decent relationship with Uconn. They are coming down to UCF to play hoops this year. It is pretty rare for them to go on the road.
KNIGHTTIME Wrote:wvucrazed Wrote:Was Texas home and home, or was it just a 1-time thing to open your stadium?
The Texas series is a 2-1. ESPN wanted a big name team to open the stadium. I don't think the 2-1's will be very common though. UCF can now make about the same amount of money if it is Texas or UL-La.
It wouldn't surprise me that we wouldn't try to work something out with WVU due to previous problems. What year do you need a game? We already are booked next year....unless we axe the Miami series?
The problem with a series between WVU and UCF is that we already have 2 long-term agreements with ECU and Marshall. The other OOC games are going to be 2 BCS teams (most years Maryland + one other), and a home guarantee via either the MAC or 1-AA. I'm not sure precisely, but we may have some home openings and UCF would certainly be more attractive than a Ball State or James Madison, but I can't forsee a return trip to UCF, at least for quite a while.
I'm not sure how long the ECU series runs, maybe when it concludes something with UCF could be worked out. I personally think it would be a very good game.
wvucrazed Wrote:The problem with a series between WVU and UCF is that we already have 2 long-term agreements with ECU and Marshall. The other OOC games are going to be 2 BCS teams (most years Maryland + one other), and a home guarantee via either the MAC or 1-AA. I'm not sure precisely, but we may have some home openings and UCF would certainly be more attractive than a Ball State or James Madison, but I can't forsee a return trip to UCF, at least for quite a while.
I'm not sure how long the ECU series runs, maybe when it concludes something with UCF could be worked out. I personally think it would be a very good game.
Maybe something is in the works to play WVU instead Pitt? We would need to find a replacement for Pitt. The only other possible option is if Miami series will be called off. Maybe it is a way to move the 2-1 with Miami to WVU? Then WVU gets to stick it to Miami.
Cyber, honestly you're just a pain. You trash every single thread that mentions UCF- barring us normal fans from having civil discussion. If you want to be a freaking 5 year old consistently, then find a different avenue to do it in. This thread has nothing to do with you or USF, so get lost.