Louisville's loss to UK means that WVU loses their biggest marquee-value regular season game, and almost assures that an undefeated WVU won't get a BCS-title game bid over say a one-loss SEC team.
Only way to avoid this problem in the future is to schedule at least one very good out of conference opponent.
stevej5 Wrote:Louisville's loss to UK means that WVU loses their biggest marquee-value regular season game, and almost assures that an undefeated WVU won't get a BCS-title game bid over say a one-loss SEC team.
Only way to avoid this problem in the future is to schedule at least one very good out of conference opponent.
disagree...undefeated WVA means they also beat UC, USF, and Rutgers and before it's all over that's going to be a feat. Besides, UofL's season isn't over yet either.
Bearcats#1 Wrote:stevej5 Wrote:Louisville's loss to UK means that WVU loses their biggest marquee-value regular season game, and almost assures that an undefeated WVU won't get a BCS-title game bid over say a one-loss SEC team.
Only way to avoid this problem in the future is to schedule at least one very good out of conference opponent.
disagree...undefeated WVA means they also beat UC, USF, and Rutgers and before it's all over that's going to be a feat. Besides, UofL's season isn't over yet either.
I think it's all moot anyway. West Virginia isn't likely to go undefeated in the Big East this year anyway. I doubt any team will.
Their 'D', while better than Louisville's and Syracuse's, isn't anything to crow about. And their offense is going to sputter/hiccup at least once against the three best defenses in league - Rutgers, Cincinnati, and South Florida. With all of those games being away games for the Eers, I simply don't see them running the table in the Big East.
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Neil
UL is still a marquee win. One loss on the road to a very good rival team does not mean that UL is suddenly a nobody. Everybody knows they are still a very tough, solid team.
And regardless, WVU already has a road win over a BCS team that won 9 games including a bowl last year. We have Rutgers, USF and UC on the schedule, as well as Pitt in the Backyard Brawl. UL will obviously not be an easy out.
WVU is high enough in the polls - and has the schedule - to go to the title game if they are one of only 2 undefeated top teams.
But I also agree with Omnicarrier - I don't see WVU or any BE team going undefeated this year.
stevej5 Wrote:Louisville's loss to UK means that WVU loses their biggest marquee-value regular season game, and almost assures that an undefeated WVU won't get a BCS-title game bid over say a one-loss SEC team.
Only way to avoid this problem in the future is to schedule at least one very good out of conference opponent.
And here I was thinking USF had a shot a winning the conference this year. I guess you know better than I do.
Lots of ranked teams lost. Including Aubrun- again. That moves USF up in the polls. Don't be so down on yourself. WVU/USF is a marquee game in my book. I'll be watching.
wvucrazed Wrote:UL is still a marquee win. One loss on the road to a very good rival team does not mean that UL is suddenly a nobody. Everybody knows they are still a very tough, solid team.
And regardless, WVU already has a road win over a BCS team that won 9 games including a bowl last year. We have Rutgers, USF and UC on the schedule, as well as Pitt in the Backyard Brawl. UL will obviously not be an easy out.
WVU is high enough in the polls - and has the schedule - to go to the title game if they are one of only 2 undefeated top teams.
The Backyard Brawl? Pitt just lost to MSU yesterday. Maryland? They aren't likely going to be regarded as any kind of tough opponent. Lousville will not be considered a marquee win, because *they* don't have any tough OOC opponents by which to prove their mettle.
And seeing "Kentucky" and "very good" in the same sentence outside of basketball season is rather shocking.
You and i obviously see WVU's schedule differently. I guess time will tell, but i just don't see it happening. Not if it comes down to say a 1-loss LSU or UF versus an undefeated WVU.
frogman Wrote:stevej5 Wrote:Louisville's loss to UK means that WVU loses their biggest marquee-value regular season game, and almost assures that an undefeated WVU won't get a BCS-title game bid over say a one-loss SEC team.
Only way to avoid this problem in the future is to schedule at least one very good out of conference opponent.
And here I was thinking USF had a shot a winning the conference this year. I guess you know better than I do.
? Obviously, i was saying *if* WVU goes undefeated. I've by no means conceded the conference title to WVU and eagerly anticipate our game with them in a couple weeks. Go Bulls!
stevej5 Wrote:frogman Wrote:stevej5 Wrote:Louisville's loss to UK means that WVU loses their biggest marquee-value regular season game, and almost assures that an undefeated WVU won't get a BCS-title game bid over say a one-loss SEC team.
Only way to avoid this problem in the future is to schedule at least one very good out of conference opponent.
And here I was thinking USF had a shot a winning the conference this year. I guess you know better than I do.
? Obviously, i was saying *if* WVU goes undefeated. I've by no means conceded the conference title to WVU and eagerly anticipate our game with them in a couple weeks. Go Bulls!
I have just one question, where were you when "your" Bulls beat Auburn @ Auburn. But somehow you show up when Kentucky beats Louisville? Makes you go HHHHHMMMMM.
Maize Wrote:stevej5 Wrote:frogman Wrote:stevej5 Wrote:Louisville's loss to UK means that WVU loses their biggest marquee-value regular season game, and almost assures that an undefeated WVU won't get a BCS-title game bid over say a one-loss SEC team.
Only way to avoid this problem in the future is to schedule at least one very good out of conference opponent.
And here I was thinking USF had a shot a winning the conference this year. I guess you know better than I do.
? Obviously, i was saying *if* WVU goes undefeated. I've by no means conceded the conference title to WVU and eagerly anticipate our game with them in a couple weeks. Go Bulls!
I have just one question, where were you when "your" Bulls beat Auburn @ Auburn.
Been very busy last few weeks. Finally caught a breather and can play around on the net for a while. :)
stevej5 Wrote:Maize Wrote:stevej5 Wrote:frogman Wrote:stevej5 Wrote:Louisville's loss to UK means that WVU loses their biggest marquee-value regular season game, and almost assures that an undefeated WVU won't get a BCS-title game bid over say a one-loss SEC team.
Only way to avoid this problem in the future is to schedule at least one very good out of conference opponent.
And here I was thinking USF had a shot a winning the conference this year. I guess you know better than I do.
? Obviously, i was saying *if* WVU goes undefeated. I've by no means conceded the conference title to WVU and eagerly anticipate our game with them in a couple weeks. Go Bulls!
I have just one question, where were you when "your" Bulls beat Auburn @ Auburn.
Been very busy last few weeks. Finally caught a breather and can play around on the net for a while. :)
Well, as long as you don't start bashing the league again-(which you did for 2 years) you will have no problems.
As far as WVU not making the title game IF they go undefeated, you can say the same for Oklahoma as well or Penn State. I would include a ACC school but that league is a joke.
Guys, steve IS NOT a South Florida fan, he's a troll.
stevej5 Wrote:Maize Wrote:stevej5 Wrote:frogman Wrote:stevej5 Wrote:Louisville's loss to UK means that WVU loses their biggest marquee-value regular season game, and almost assures that an undefeated WVU won't get a BCS-title game bid over say a one-loss SEC team.
Only way to avoid this problem in the future is to schedule at least one very good out of conference opponent.
And here I was thinking USF had a shot a winning the conference this year. I guess you know better than I do.
? Obviously, i was saying *if* WVU goes undefeated. I've by no means conceded the conference title to WVU and eagerly anticipate our game with them in a couple weeks. Go Bulls!
I have just one question, where were you when "your" Bulls beat Auburn @ Auburn.
Been very busy last few weeks. Finally caught a breather and can play around on the net for a while. :)
So you can trash the league again? Including the stupid comment that Louisville's loss means West Virginia can't make the BCS title game if they're undefeated. In order to go undefeated West Virginia would have to beat 3, maybe 4 ranked teams, and an ACC and SEC team. They'll make the BCS title game if they go undefeated. Same with Rutgers.
CatsClaw Wrote:In order to go undefeated West Virginia would have to beat 3, maybe 4 ranked teams, and an ACC and SEC team. They'll make the BCS title game if they go undefeated. Same with Rutgers.
All those ranked teams will be BE teams, which won't count for much nationally. The SEC and ACC teams they would have beaten are not big-time programs.
This is obviously a situation where only time will tell, but i'd be willing to bet that an undefeated WVU won't get the nod over a 1-loss SEC champ. Like to wager?
If USC, FLa. or LSU are the one loss team-maybe. This is because LSU may play FLa. Twice this year, during the regular season and in the SEC championship game. They can split and FLa is the defending champ. USC is in and the market is going to ask for an SEC opponent.
More likely, LSU will go undefeated as will USC, so the real question is if there are three undefeated- then WVU is out again.
Rutgers had way too soft a OOC schedule to be considered for the title game.
stevej5 Wrote:CatsClaw Wrote:In order to go undefeated West Virginia would have to beat 3, maybe 4 ranked teams, and an ACC and SEC team. They'll make the BCS title game if they go undefeated. Same with Rutgers.
All those ranked teams will be BE teams, which won't count for much nationally. The SEC and ACC teams they would have beaten are not big-time programs.
This is obviously a situation where only time will tell, but i'd be willing to bet that an undefeated WVU won't get the nod over a 1-loss SEC champ. Like to wager?
You evidently don't keep up with SOS rankings. WVU's SOS is the 21st hardest. Now granted, it's not a top 10 but good enough to keep them in the hunt for the National Championship game if undefeated.
stevej5 Wrote:Been very busy last few weeks. Finally caught a breather and can play around on the net for a while. :)
Oh look, troll stevej5, AKA LSU fan BE basher USF bandwagon jumper has made it back to this board after USF became a ranked team.
....do us all a favor; go back to being very busy and just go away idiot.
stevej5 Wrote:CatsClaw Wrote:In order to go undefeated West Virginia would have to beat 3, maybe 4 ranked teams, and an ACC and SEC team. They'll make the BCS title game if they go undefeated. Same with Rutgers.
All those ranked teams will be BE teams, which won't count for much nationally. The SEC and ACC teams they would have beaten are not big-time programs.
This is obviously a situation where only time will tell, but i'd be willing to bet that an undefeated WVU won't get the nod over a 1-loss SEC champ. Like to wager?
Really. So I guess the people voting them into the Top 25 are doing it just for the fun of it? If West Virginia goes undefeated they will beat out all 1 loss teams. You better hope your precious LSU Tigers don't lose because if West Virginia goes undefeated they will shoot by them faster then you can blink.
MOUNTAINEERFAN64 Wrote:stevej5 Wrote:CatsClaw Wrote:In order to go undefeated West Virginia would have to beat 3, maybe 4 ranked teams, and an ACC and SEC team. They'll make the BCS title game if they go undefeated. Same with Rutgers.
All those ranked teams will be BE teams, which won't count for much nationally. The SEC and ACC teams they would have beaten are not big-time programs.
This is obviously a situation where only time will tell, but i'd be willing to bet that an undefeated WVU won't get the nod over a 1-loss SEC champ. Like to wager?
You evidently don't keep up with SOS rankings. WVU's SOS is the 21st hardest. Now granted, it's not a top 10 but good enough to keep them in the hunt for the National Championship game if undefeated.
And that schedule will shoot into the Top 10 if they go undefeated in the Big East with a win over Mississippi State.
frogman Wrote:If USC, FLa. or LSU are the one loss team-maybe. This is because LSU may play FLa. Twice this year, during the regular season and in the SEC championship game. They can split and FLa is the defending champ. USC is in and the market is going to ask for an SEC opponent.
Good points.
MOUNTAINEERFAN64 Wrote:stevej5 Wrote:CatsClaw Wrote:In order to go undefeated West Virginia would have to beat 3, maybe 4 ranked teams, and an ACC and SEC team. They'll make the BCS title game if they go undefeated. Same with Rutgers.
All those ranked teams will be BE teams, which won't count for much nationally. The SEC and ACC teams they would have beaten are not big-time programs.
This is obviously a situation where only time will tell, but i'd be willing to bet that an undefeated WVU won't get the nod over a 1-loss SEC champ. Like to wager?
You evidently don't keep up with SOS rankings. WVU's SOS is the 21st hardest. Now granted, it's not a top 10 but good enough to keep them in the hunt for the National Championship game if undefeated.
Ranked 21st by who? How can it be 21st with all those OOC creampuffs on it?