Now that The CA has thankfully upgraded our blog capabilities, hopefully The Edge will be a daily stop for Tiger fans. I’ll try to provide some sort of post every day leading up to Memphis Madness, then start with daily blogs once practice begins.
A couple things:
– As first reported by Scout.com, the Morris twins have indeed de-committed from Memphis.
In surfing various message boards, supposed insiders have forwarded the idea that this development is linked to the Sept. 2 incident on Beale Street and other various off-court issues from past years. That assertion is laughable. The truth is, there had been issues in this recruitment for awhile, much of it linked to the influence of Danny Brinkely, the twins’ high school coach from Philadelphia Prep Charter.
After the twins signed with Memphis, their stock went up fairly considerably last year. Brinkley, I’m told from solid sources, had encouraged the twins to look around and see what kind of interest they could get this summer from other programs, which is why they re-opened their recruitment. Meanwhile, Memphis coaches fell in love with Angel Garcia, who looked like a potential All-American during John Calipari’s elite camp in July. The twins and their high school coach, according to my sources — and they haven’t called back to deny this claim — did not want Memphis to recruit Garcia since he essentially plays the same position. This put the Tiger coaching staff in a difficult spot. Should they have backed off Garcia, who they evaluate as a possible top-5 player in the country (and perhaps the best), to placate the twins, who had already waffled once on their commitment? Obviously, Calipari made the call to continue pursuing Garcia, even though he probably knew it could have consequences.
If Garcia meets NCAA qualifications — and we’ll monitor that situation closely in the coming months — the overall impact on Memphis won’t be too significant. The Tiger coaching staff will now look at some other players, and perhaps attempt to get back in on players they didn’t recruit in the summer because the Morris twins were committed. But the Tigers certainly aren’t going to take somebody just to take them, especially given the quality of players they are recruiting for the 2009 class.
This makes the twins and their coach look like idiots. Not us. Yey!!!
Tell the eighteen Florida players drafted the last two years that having other "NBA" caliber players on your team hurt your chances. If you are good enough, you are good enough. Being the leading scorer at VCU won't improve your chances, and even worse, NOT being the leading scorer at VCU really won't improve your chances.
Winning improves your chances, but your ability is where the buck stops.
Has it really come to 17 year old kids telling a coach who else they can and can't recruit? If I was Calipari I would have waited til the twins signed and then pulled Garcia out from behind the curtain and said, "let's see what you can do."
Quote:In surfing various message boards, supposed insiders have forwarded the idea that this development is linked to the Sept. 2 incident on Beale Street and other various off-court issues from past years. That assertion is laughable. The truth is, there had been issues in this recruitment for awhile, much of it linked to the influence of Danny Brinkely, the twins’ high school coach from Philadelphia Prep Charter.
Wow, Griffin and Easterwood, will you be giving a rebuttal?
Brooks H
09-11-2007, 08:13 AM
fsquid Wrote:
Quote:In surfing various message boards, supposed insiders have forwarded the idea that this development is linked to the Sept. 2 incident on Beale Street and other various off-court issues from past years. That assertion is laughable. The truth is, there had been issues in this recruitment for awhile, much of it linked to the influence of Danny Brinkely, the twins’ high school coach from Philadelphia Prep Charter.
Wow, Griffin and Easterwood, will you be giving a rebuttal?
Maybe I'm wrong (and I very well could be --- I could have missed that thread), but I don't remember either of them making the assertion that the Morris twins decided to decommitt because of the incident. The only thing I remember them saying is that it didn't help. Now, Keith has stated that the incident could be a big factor in Evans recruitment, but things could have changed. I'm sure damage control was, and is still, being done.
bubbapt Wrote:I think they may be overvaluing Garcia a little bit, but it seems plausible.
With Garcia signing, there's still a big gaping hole in the middle after Dorsey leaves.
Hire Barry Bonds as Taggert's personal trainer.
Let's see by the end of the thread how far your statement goes.
It always has to be 1 person to fukk up a thread.
We're talking BASKETBALL here...
Thanks, anyway, have you been near the toilet lately.... "Elvis" ???
Quote:In surfing various message boards, supposed insiders have forwarded the idea that this development is linked to the Sept. 2 incident on Beale Street and other various off-court issues from past years. That assertion is laughable. The truth is, there had been issues in this recruitment for awhile, much of it linked to the influence of Danny Brinkely, the twins’ high school coach from Philadelphia Prep Charter.
Wow, Griffin and Easterwood, will you be giving a rebuttal?
Maybe I'm wrong (and I very well could be --- I could have missed that thread), but I don't remember either of them making the assertion that the Morris twins decided to decommitt because of the incident. The only thing I remember them saying is that it didn't help. Now, Keith has stated that the incident could be a big factor in Evans recruitment, but things could have changed. I'm sure damage control was, and is still, being done.
Was it Evans or another guard we were recruiting that had a couple of off the court issues in the past year or so, i could be totally wrong on this but at least that's what i thought I read.
Brooks H
09-11-2007, 08:40 AM
e_smith_1992 Wrote:
tigerbham Wrote:
fsquid Wrote:
Quote:In surfing various message boards, supposed insiders have forwarded the idea that this development is linked to the Sept. 2 incident on Beale Street and other various off-court issues from past years. That assertion is laughable. The truth is, there had been issues in this recruitment for awhile, much of it linked to the influence of Danny Brinkely, the twins’ high school coach from Philadelphia Prep Charter.
Wow, Griffin and Easterwood, will you be giving a rebuttal?
Maybe I'm wrong (and I very well could be --- I could have missed that thread), but I don't remember either of them making the assertion that the Morris twins decided to decommitt because of the incident. The only thing I remember them saying is that it didn't help. Now, Keith has stated that the incident could be a big factor in Evans recruitment, but things could have changed. I'm sure damage control was, and is still, being done.
Was it Evans or another guard we were recruiting that had a couple of off the court issues in the past year or so, i could be totally wrong on this but at least that's what i thought I read.
Evans isn't really known for being a trouble-maker or ever being in trouble. He's a good kid. He has had issues with supposed "entourage" issues. He runs in a tight circle and is VERY dedicated to the game of basketball. He's a work-a-holic, doubt he has much other time to get in trouble.
I can't think of anyone else that we're recruiting that has been labeled as a trouble-maker. Herb Pope was the only one in recent memory, but that is long over.
Quote:In surfing various message boards, supposed insiders have forwarded the idea that this development is linked to the Sept. 2 incident on Beale Street and other various off-court issues from past years. That assertion is laughable. The truth is, there had been issues in this recruitment for awhile, much of it linked to the influence of Danny Brinkely, the twins’ high school coach from Philadelphia Prep Charter.
Wow, Griffin and Easterwood, will you be giving a rebuttal?
Maybe I'm wrong (and I very well could be --- I could have missed that thread), but I don't remember either of them making the assertion that the Morris twins decided to decommitt because of the incident. The only thing I remember them saying is that it didn't help. Now, Keith has stated that the incident could be a big factor in Evans recruitment, but things could have changed. I'm sure damage control was, and is still, being done.
Was it Evans or another guard we were recruiting that had a couple of off the court issues in the past year or so, i could be totally wrong on this but at least that's what i thought I read.
Evans isn't really known for being a trouble-maker or ever being in trouble. He's a good kid. He has had issues with supposed "entourage" issues. He runs in a tight circle and is VERY dedicated to the game of basketball. He's a work-a-holic, doubt he has much other time to get in trouble.
I can't think of anyone else that we're recruiting that has been labeled as a trouble-maker. Herb Pope was the only one in recent memory, but that is long over.
Thanks for the info, now that you mention it, it was about an entourage type thingy. Well, that's good to hear. Hope he decides on us, if not, we'll move on. I always say, it's better to get a 3-4 year quality player than a one & done, UNLESS, you get that championship!
tigerbham Wrote:Maybe I'm wrong (and I very well could be --- I could have missed that thread), but I don't remember either of them making the assertion that the Morris twins decided to decommitt because of the incident. The only thing I remember them saying is that it didn't help. Now, Keith has stated that the incident could be a big factor in Evans recruitment, but things could have changed. I'm sure damage control was, and is still, being done.
Easterwood Wrote:Unfortunately the continued stories paint an ugly picture of Tiger basketball. The national perspective is one of an outlaw program. A program that's allowed to do anything as long as it wins.
This isn't a media witch hunt or an isolated incident, it's a pattern of behavior, that for the first time seems to be having an effect on recruiting.
Easterwood Wrote:Just wait until the stories from "Senses" start coming out.
Keith definitely implied that these incidents are affecting Tiger recruiting. I question Easterwood's motivation when speaking on the Tigers these days. Keith has no right to judge current Tiger players especially considering his faults as an AAU coach back in the late 90's with the Memphis Sounds(Adidas). He allegedly was caught playing a 15 year-old who attended Manassas High to play in the 13-under age division (Billy Irby). Some viewed Keith as a crooked AAU coach. Easterwood allegedly has been seen wearing a UT hat and is definitely not a guy to speak on Calipari's recruiting though his AAU teams have practiced at the FINCH . Cal is among the best recruiters in the country and he usually gets his man. Angel Garcia was definitely his man. It's possible another player could sign with the Tiger's this fall or worst case senario we turn our focus to the 2009 class.
tigerbham Wrote:Maybe I'm wrong (and I very well could be --- I could have missed that thread), but I don't remember either of them making the assertion that the Morris twins decided to decommitt because of the incident. The only thing I remember them saying is that it didn't help. Now, Keith has stated that the incident could be a big factor in Evans recruitment, but things could have changed. I'm sure damage control was, and is still, being done.
Easterwood Wrote:Unfortunately the continued stories paint an ugly picture of Tiger basketball. The national perspective is one of an outlaw program. A program that's allowed to do anything as long as it wins.
This isn't a media witch hunt or an isolated incident, it's a pattern of behavior, that for the first time seems to be having an effect on recruiting.
Easterwood Wrote:Just wait until the stories from "Senses" start coming out.
Keith definitely implied that these incidents are affecting Tiger recruiting. I question Easterwood's motivation when speaking on the Tigers these days. Keith has no right to judge current Tiger players especially considering his faults as an AAU coach back in the late 90's with the Memphis Sounds(Adidas). He allegedly was caught playing a 15 year-old who attended Manassas High to play in the 13-under age division (Billy Irby). Some viewed Keith as a crooked AAU coach. Easterwood allegedly has been seen wearing a UT hat and is definitely not a guy to speak on Calipari's recruiting though his AAU teams have practiced at the FINCH . Cal is among the best recruiters in the country and he usually gets his man. Angel Garcia was definitely his man. It's possible another player could sign with the Tiger's this fall or worst case senario we turn our focus to the 2009 class.
As Keith use to say on his radio show back in the 90s....
Things that make you go "Hmmmmmmmmmm......"
tigerbham Wrote:Maybe I'm wrong (and I very well could be --- I could have missed that thread), but I don't remember either of them making the assertion that the Morris twins decided to decommitt because of the incident. The only thing I remember them saying is that it didn't help. Now, Keith has stated that the incident could be a big factor in Evans recruitment, but things could have changed. I'm sure damage control was, and is still, being done.
Easterwood Wrote:Unfortunately the continued stories paint an ugly picture of Tiger basketball. The national perspective is one of an outlaw program. A program that's allowed to do anything as long as it wins.
This isn't a media witch hunt or an isolated incident, it's a pattern of behavior, that for the first time seems to be having an effect on recruiting.
Easterwood Wrote:Just wait until the stories from "Senses" start coming out.
Keith definitely implied that these incidents are affecting Tiger recruiting. I question Easterwood's motivation when speaking on the Tigers these days. Keith has no right to judge current Tiger players especially considering his faults as an AAU coach back in the late 90's with the Memphis Sounds(Adidas). He allegedly was caught playing a 15 year-old who attended Manassas High to play in the 13-under age division (Billy Irby). Some viewed Keith as a crooked AAU coach. Easterwood allegedly has been seen wearing a UT hat and is definitely not a guy to speak on Calipari's recruiting though his AAU teams have practiced at the FINCH . Cal is among the best recruiters in the country and he usually gets his man. Angel Garcia was definitely his man. It's possible another player could sign with the Tiger's this fall or worst case senario we turn our focus to the 2009 class.
Inappropriate and I think this should be moved to the recruiting forum.
It's football season.
I think Keith is still a good source of information. Like all sources he's just giving what he has to give. E Smith I believe you were thinking of Willie Kemp's recruitment. It seems the UT coaches were bring up the issue with his mother and you know how that turn-out.
tigerbham Wrote:Maybe I'm wrong (and I very well could be --- I could have missed that thread), but I don't remember either of them making the assertion that the Morris twins decided to decommitt because of the incident. The only thing I remember them saying is that it didn't help. Now, Keith has stated that the incident could be a big factor in Evans recruitment, but things could have changed. I'm sure damage control was, and is still, being done.
Easterwood Wrote:Unfortunately the continued stories paint an ugly picture of Tiger basketball. The national perspective is one of an outlaw program. A program that's allowed to do anything as long as it wins.
This isn't a media witch hunt or an isolated incident, it's a pattern of behavior, that for the first time seems to be having an effect on recruiting.
Easterwood Wrote:Just wait until the stories from "Senses" start coming out.
Keith definitely implied that these incidents are affecting Tiger recruiting. I question Easterwood's motivation when speaking on the Tigers these days. Keith has no right to judge current Tiger players especially considering his faults as an AAU coach back in the late 90's with the Memphis Sounds(Adidas). He allegedly was caught playing a 15 year-old who attended Manassas High to play in the 13-under age division (Billy Irby). Some viewed Keith as a crooked AAU coach. Easterwood allegedly has been seen wearing a UT hat and is definitely not a guy to speak on Calipari's recruiting though his AAU teams have practiced at the FINCH . Cal is among the best recruiters in the country and he usually gets his man. Angel Garcia was definitely his man. It's possible another player could sign with the Tiger's this fall or worst case senario we turn our focus to the 2009 class.
Inappropriate and I think this should be moved to the recruiting forum.
It's football season.
I could think and name a lot of inappropriate things on this main board that SHOULD be moved so let's not go there.... How 'bout u just click on another thread. We all know it's FB season, actually & TRUTH BE TOLD it's ALL SPORTS ALL YEAR LONG.
Brooks H
09-11-2007, 09:47 AM
Bill83 Wrote:
TigerDieHard Wrote:
tigerbham Wrote:Maybe I'm wrong (and I very well could be --- I could have missed that thread), but I don't remember either of them making the assertion that the Morris twins decided to decommitt because of the incident. The only thing I remember them saying is that it didn't help. Now, Keith has stated that the incident could be a big factor in Evans recruitment, but things could have changed. I'm sure damage control was, and is still, being done.
Easterwood Wrote:Unfortunately the continued stories paint an ugly picture of Tiger basketball. The national perspective is one of an outlaw program. A program that's allowed to do anything as long as it wins.
This isn't a media witch hunt or an isolated incident, it's a pattern of behavior, that for the first time seems to be having an effect on recruiting.
Easterwood Wrote:Just wait until the stories from "Senses" start coming out.
Keith definitely implied that these incidents are affecting Tiger recruiting. I question Easterwood's motivation when speaking on the Tigers these days. Keith has no right to judge current Tiger players especially considering his faults as an AAU coach back in the late 90's with the Memphis Sounds(Adidas). He allegedly was caught playing a 15 year-old who attended Manassas High to play in the 13-under age division (Billy Irby). Some viewed Keith as a crooked AAU coach. Easterwood allegedly has been seen wearing a UT hat and is definitely not a guy to speak on Calipari's recruiting though his AAU teams have practiced at the FINCH . Cal is among the best recruiters in the country and he usually gets his man. Angel Garcia was definitely his man. It's possible another player could sign with the Tiger's this fall or worst case senario we turn our focus to the 2009 class.
Inappropriate and I think this should be moved to the recruiting forum.
It's football season.
funny...I'm pretty sure I remember not playing football this past weekend, which leaves NOT SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT. This is very Tigers related.
tigerbham Wrote:Maybe I'm wrong (and I very well could be --- I could have missed that thread), but I don't remember either of them making the assertion that the Morris twins decided to decommitt because of the incident. The only thing I remember them saying is that it didn't help. Now, Keith has stated that the incident could be a big factor in Evans recruitment, but things could have changed. I'm sure damage control was, and is still, being done.
Easterwood Wrote:Unfortunately the continued stories paint an ugly picture of Tiger basketball. The national perspective is one of an outlaw program. A program that's allowed to do anything as long as it wins.
This isn't a media witch hunt or an isolated incident, it's a pattern of behavior, that for the first time seems to be having an effect on recruiting.
Easterwood Wrote:Just wait until the stories from "Senses" start coming out.
Keith definitely implied that these incidents are affecting Tiger recruiting. I question Easterwood's motivation when speaking on the Tigers these days. Keith has no right to judge current Tiger players especially considering his faults as an AAU coach back in the late 90's with the Memphis Sounds(Adidas). He allegedly was caught playing a 15 year-old who attended Manassas High to play in the 13-under age division (Billy Irby). Some viewed Keith as a crooked AAU coach. Easterwood allegedly has been seen wearing a UT hat and is definitely not a guy to speak on Calipari's recruiting though his AAU teams have practiced at the FINCH . Cal is among the best recruiters in the country and he usually gets his man. Angel Garcia was definitely his man. It's possible another player could sign with the Tiger's this fall or worst case senario we turn our focus to the 2009 class.
Those quotes were certainly insightful on Keith's part. I don't think anybody out there could have put 2 and 2 together and come to the same cryptic conclusion. That is the work of pure genius.
I don't blame Keith for wearing whatever the heck he wants to wear, and I freely admit he certainly has more "inside" information than I do. Unfortunately, these days, he seems to be a little bitter. Not sure why. (I have an idea, but not to share here)
I believe he thinks that Wolken's head is somewhere it normally wouldn't be. I'll let him explain, if he chooses to do so.
