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MB made the comment in another thread that "we are grasping at anything to believe that (Callaway) is a Blazer..." So, for those who doubt that Callaway is on board or think he may be a "UAT stooge", when will you - and when should we all - be convinced that he is totally committed to UAB? Is it a win/loss thing? How about if he makes it 2 years? 4 years? Will it be when UAB takes a recruit from UAT? Does he have to kick PBJr in the nuts at a Quarterback Club meeting?

Same thing for Davis. What's it gonna take? I admire the devotion you guys have to UAB, but I wonder when the snipes at Callaway and Davis, not the mention the quips about UAB whoring herself out to the BOT, are gonna subside...I don't think they do much good.

EDIT: I'll say this, too: it really doesn't help when you guys take that crap to the CUSA board...and you know who you are.
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See also my response in the affiliated thread: http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=243916
A good 03-nutkick wouldn't hurt.05-stirthepot

Anyway, Callaway has something he has always wanted and that is a head coaching position. It is a job, and I'm sure he will do all he can to keep it. At the end of the day, Callaway will always be a blazer because we gave him his first chance to be a head coach. I don't think you can easily forget things like that.

Go Blazers.
blazr Wrote:Does he have to kick PBJr in the nuts at a Quarterback Club meeting?

I already think he is a Blazer, but this is always welcome.
Neil Callaway is not nor ever was responsible for the flawed process that resulted in the way he got his job at UAB. He did not create the "absentee landlord" situation that exists where the BOT runs UABs athletic affairs on a "Bama first" basis. None of us got our jobs while in control of the process of getting it.
I know that NO COACH is going to risk his career reputation to serve the goals of people who who may have hired him for specious reasons, but won't "be there" for him down the road if he is perceived as having "loused it up". That would put a taint on his reputation that would haunt him forever, not to mention the reputations of his ass't coaches.
I am confident that FBHC Callaway and his staff will do the best they can to bring success to the UAB FB program and to make it a positive on their coaching records. We will never know for sure whether we would have done better with a staff put together by Jimbo Fisher. We have who we have so "get over it" and go forward.
BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:Neil Callaway is not nor ever was responsible for the flawed process that resulted in the way he got his job at UAB. He did not create the "absentee landlord" situation that exists where the BOT runs UABs athletic affairs on a "Bama first" basis. None of us got our jobs while in control of the process of getting it.
I know that NO COACH is going to risk his career reputation to serve the goals of people who who may have hired him for specious reasons, but won't "be there" for him down the road if he is perceived as having "loused it up". That would put a taint on his reputation that would haunt him forever, not to mention the reputations of his ass't coaches.
I am confident that FBHC Callaway and his staff will do the best they can to bring success to the UAB FB program and to make it a positive on their coaching records. We will never know for sure whether we would have done better with a staff put together by Jimbo Fisher. We have who we have so "get over it" and go forward.
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BlazerUnit Wrote:
BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:Neil Callaway is not nor ever was responsible for the flawed process that resulted in the way he got his job at UAB. He did not create the "absentee landlord" situation that exists where the BOT runs UABs athletic affairs on a "Bama first" basis. None of us got our jobs while in control of the process of getting it.
I know that NO COACH is going to risk his career reputation to serve the goals of people who who may have hired him for specious reasons, but won't "be there" for him down the road if he is perceived as having "loused it up". That would put a taint on his reputation that would haunt him forever, not to mention the reputations of his ass't coaches.
I am confident that FBHC Callaway and his staff will do the best they can to bring success to the UAB FB program and to make it a positive on their coaching records. We will never know for sure whether we would have done better with a staff put together by Jimbo Fisher. We have who we have so "get over it" and go forward.
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I couldn't have said it any better than that.
Well since you asked:

Here is how I feel. These are my personal opinions and if you feel differently, good for you.

I will never ever accept Callaway as a Blazer no matter how successful or how wonderful a person he may be. If you believe (as I do, based on what I have read here and heard from other sources) that the UAB administration was forced by the Alabama BOT to hire Callaway and was not allowed to hire their first choice, I don't care if Callaway wins the national championship, I will never accept him as a Blazer.

If you believe that UAB should be an autonomous campus and make its on decisions, then I don't see how anyone can accept Callaway with open arms. Sure, he didn't have anything to do with the decision, but he is the result of that decision and therefore I find him unacceptable.

I still support the UAB football team as a unit and as a team. There will always be individuals on a team that I do not like and I do not support. Callaway will always be one of those people. It is really nothing personal against him. It is what he represents. That does not change how I feel about UAB as a team. And my stand has softened. When he was hired, I said I would never attend another game (as many of Callaways biggest supporters did)

I don't care how great a disciplinarian he is. This may be an extreme example, but when the Nazis overran Poland, the Poles didn't say "well we hate Hitler, but these SS guys are OK" By the way, the SS was big on discipline as well.

UAB is occupied Poland. (Yes, I understand it is an extreme example, but I feel it fits) And no this does not make me a Watson Brown apologist.

As far as Davis, I have been a big critic in the past, but where he went to school is only a very very small part of my problems with him. My biggest concern with him is that I am not sure he is a good floor coach. Great recruiter, yes, but not a good coach. He can prove me wrong which I hope he does very soon.

I just believe you can support the team and not like the coach.
Memphis Blazer Wrote:Well since you asked:

Here is how I feel. These are my personal opinions and if you feel differently, good for you.

I will never ever accept Callaway as a Blazer no matter how successful or how wonderful a person he may be. If you believe (as I do, based on what I have read here and heard from other sources) that the UAB administration was forced by the Alabama BOT to hire Callaway and was not allowed to hire their first choice, I don't care if Callaway wins the national championship, I will never accept him as a Blazer.

If you believe that UAB should be an autonomous campus and make its on decisions, then I don't see how anyone can accept Callaway with open arms. Sure, he didn't have anything to do with the decision, but he is the result of that decision and therefore I find him unacceptable.

I still support the UAB football team as a unit and as a team. There will always be individuals on a team that I do not like and I do not support. Callaway will always be one of those people. It is really nothing personal against him. It is what he represents. That does not change how I feel about UAB as a team. And my stand has softened. When he was hired, I said I would never attend another game (as many of Callaways biggest supporters did)

I don't care how great a disciplinarian he is. This may be an extreme example, but when the Nazis overran Poland, the Poles didn't say "well we hate Hitler, but these SS guys are OK" By the way, the SS was big on discipline as well.

UAB is occupied Poland. (Yes, I understand it is an extreme example, but I feel it fits) And no this does not make me a Watson Brown apologist.

As far as Davis, I have been a big critic in the past, but where he went to school is only a very very small part of my problems with him. My biggest concern with him is that I am not sure he is a good floor coach. Great recruiter, yes, but not a good coach. He can prove me wrong which I hope he does very soon.

I just believe you can support the team and not like the coach.

loon
Glad you allow other people's their opinion without resorting to name calling.

As a retort, I give you a quote


Quote:GROW SOME BALLS AND FIGHT BACK

if you wussies give a damn about uab like you claim to then do something about it. dont just complain fight back. call your state rep and raise hell and keep rasing hell until something is done. nothing worth while is easy and there are times you have to fight for what you know is right. this could be the best thing that ever happened to uab if it forces us to wake up and stop being babies that cry and turns us into men that fight back. unfortunately it looks like most of you are too busy sucking you mamas teat to do what is needed.

I believe that was you back on December 16. What happened to fighting back? It was big talk back on 12/16, but now it's accept what was given to us, and call anyone names who disagrees. Way to stick to it.
I do think your Nazi references were way "over the top", but you are entitled to your opinion of the present staff.
As far as "raising 'Heck'" with Montgomery to obtain relief from the Bama-oriented BOT, that would be like asking "Bull" Connor for help against the KKK, or to continue your simile, asking Himmler or Heydrich for relief from Hitler. As long as the "B" in UAB stands for B'ham, we will be wasting our time and energy "tilting at windmills" by trying to diminish the hold that Bama has on our University College. I have spoken on this subject before so I won't "beat that dead horse" any longer here and now.
Memphis Blazer Wrote:Well since you asked:

Here is how I feel. These are my personal opinions and if you feel differently, good for you.

I will never ever accept Callaway as a Blazer no matter how successful or how wonderful a person he may be. If you believe (as I do, based on what I have read here and heard from other sources) that the UAB administration was forced by the Alabama BOT to hire Callaway and was not allowed to hire their first choice, I don't care if Callaway wins the national championship, I will never accept him as a Blazer.

If you believe that UAB should be an autonomous campus and make its on decisions, then I don't see how anyone can accept Callaway with open arms. Sure, he didn't have anything to do with the decision, but he is the result of that decision and therefore I find him unacceptable.

I still support the UAB football team as a unit and as a team. There will always be individuals on a team that I do not like and I do not support. Callaway will always be one of those people. It is really nothing personal against him. It is what he represents. That does not change how I feel about UAB as a team. And my stand has softened. When he was hired, I said I would never attend another game (as many of Callaways biggest supporters did)

I don't care how great a disciplinarian he is. This may be an extreme example, but when the Nazis overran Poland, the Poles didn't say "well we hate Hitler, but these SS guys are OK" By the way, the SS was big on discipline as well.

UAB is occupied Poland. (Yes, I understand it is an extreme example, but I feel it fits) And no this does not make me a Watson Brown apologist.

As far as Davis, I have been a big critic in the past, but where he went to school is only a very very small part of my problems with him. My biggest concern with him is that I am not sure he is a good floor coach. Great recruiter, yes, but not a good coach. He can prove me wrong which I hope he does very soon.

I just believe you can support the team and not like the coach.

It must be exhausting being you. Though I bet you sleep well...probably too tired each evening to dream--you get that "deep sleep".
He has a right to his opinion. Some parts I agree with, some I do not. Some of it I feel may be over the top but that's My opinion. Name calling does no good and MB is entitled to give his opinion just as everyone else has. I do not always agree with him but he is a respected member of this site and should be treated as such. At least he has the balls to tell how he really feels and not sugar coat it.......



hats off to Memphis Blazer 03-lmfao (jk for MB) since he loves that thread.....
draak ijveraar Wrote:/quote]

loon


No, MB's no loon. He has an opinion that differs somewhat from mine (and obviously yours).
The Michigan St. game cannot get here fast enough. Bickering about Callaway being a true blazer or not. I couldn't care if his blood was green and he wore dragon wings and a tail to ball games as long as he wins. I wonder if the Bama nuts are asking if KING SABAN bleeds crimson (for those that dont know everyone's blood is red---note for the stupid). Callaway gets paid to win and if he doesn't, then hire another Bama castoff and see if he can do any better. I hear Debose is looking for a job.
ShelbyCoBlazer Wrote:
draak ijveraar Wrote:/quote]

loon


No, MB's no loon. He has an opinion that differs somewhat from mine (and obviously yours).

I just finished reading Wright Thompson's story on black Atlanta's reaction to the Michael Vick story, which is referenced in a topic over on the Bar and Grille forum. I also read Thompson's chat with readers of the story, as well as all 715 comments.
Thompson, I think, summed it up best when he replied to a chat comment thusly:

Quote:"The reason we cannot get over race, I think, is that so many people, like with this story for instance, come out and immediately dismiss the opinions of others."

You can substitute just about any controversial topic for the word "race" in that reply, and it remain accurate.

I will admit I have often, out of frustration and anger, attacked others for their opinions (granted, those opinions were often uneducated and wrong :-) ), but Thomspon makes a great point. Vitriolic rhetoric has become a mainstay in our society, so much so that it has become the standard. It is why Congress has a 23 percent approval rating, why draak ijveraar didn't hesitate calling MB a loon, and why everyone on the board feels no guilt about making short jokes about dfarr (OK, that was a low blow, wait, so was that!).
Grammar-Nazi Wrote:
ShelbyCoBlazer Wrote:
draak ijveraar Wrote:/quote]

loon


No, MB's no loon. He has an opinion that differs somewhat from mine (and obviously yours).

I just finished reading Wright Thompson's story on black Atlanta's reaction to the Michael Vick story, which is referenced in a topic over on the Bar and Grille forum. I also read Thompson's chat with readers of the story, as well as all 715 comments.
Thompson, I think, summed it up best when he replied to a chat comment thusly:

Quote:"The reason we cannot get over race, I think, is that so many people, like with this story for instance, come out and immediately dismiss the opinions of others."

You can substitute just about any controversial topic for the word "race" in that reply, and it remain accurate.

I will admit I have often, out of frustration and anger, attacked others for their opinions (granted, those opinions were often uneducated and wrong :-) ), but Thomspon makes a great point. Vitriolic rhetoric has become a mainstay in our society, so much so that it has become the standard. It is why Congress has a 23 percent approval rating, why draak ijveraar didn't hesitate calling MB a loon, and why everyone on the board feels no guilt about making short jokes about dfarr (OK, that was a low blow, wait, so was that!).

Not all opinions are worthy of further consideration and can thereby be dismissed out of hand.

Since you guys mention both "race" and "nazis" (how tiresome of you guys to keep, so predictably, to Godwin's Law ), I'll give you an example: the nazis opinion on the subject was that they were the "master race". There--a very simple example of why some opinions can be dismissed.
BlazingGoat Wrote:
Grammar-Nazi Wrote:
ShelbyCoBlazer Wrote:
draak ijveraar Wrote:/quote]

loon


No, MB's no loon. He has an opinion that differs somewhat from mine (and obviously yours).

I just finished reading Wright Thompson's story on black Atlanta's reaction to the Michael Vick story, which is referenced in a topic over on the Bar and Grille forum. I also read Thompson's chat with readers of the story, as well as all 715 comments.
Thompson, I think, summed it up best when he replied to a chat comment thusly:

Quote:"The reason we cannot get over race, I think, is that so many people, like with this story for instance, come out and immediately dismiss the opinions of others."

You can substitute just about any controversial topic for the word "race" in that reply, and it remain accurate.

I will admit I have often, out of frustration and anger, attacked others for their opinions (granted, those opinions were often uneducated and wrong :-) ), but Thomspon makes a great point. Vitriolic rhetoric has become a mainstay in our society, so much so that it has become the standard. It is why Congress has a 23 percent approval rating, why draak ijveraar didn't hesitate calling MB a loon, and why everyone on the board feels no guilt about making short jokes about dfarr (OK, that was a low blow, wait, so was that!).

Not all opinions are worthy of further consideration and can thereby be dismissed out of hand.

Since you guys mention both "race" and "nazis" (how tiresome of you guys to keep, so predictably, to Godwin's Law ), I'll give you an example: the nazis opinion on the subject was that they were the "master race". There--a very simple example of why some opinions can be dismissed.

I think you are missing the point I tried to make. Alas, however, that is your opinion. I may disagree with it, but I won't attack it.
Enough already folks... good grief!!!

05-nono

Let the games begin :)
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