It was announced that the largest Sunni Arab bloc just quit the Iraqi government.
Quote:The Iraqi Accordance Front's withdrawal from the Cabinet leaves only two Sunnis in the 40-member body, undermining Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's efforts to pull together rival factions and pass reconciliation laws the U.S. considers benchmarks that could lead to sectarian reconciliation.
We need to get out of this quagmire.
the other Greg Childers Wrote:We need to get out of this quagmire.
I didn't know we were in....
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Giggidy, Giggidy.... Alright.
the other Greg Childers Wrote:It was announced that the largest Sunni Arab bloc just quit the Iraqi government.
You don't seem to understand much about Parliamentary governments.
Democracy at work:
NY Times Wrote:A spokesman for the bloc later confirmed that its six cabinet ministers, including Deputy Prime Minister Salam al-Zubaie, had handed in their resignations, but that its 44 members of Parliament would continue to participate.
I45owl Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:It was announced that the largest Sunni Arab bloc just quit the Iraqi government.
You don't seem to understand much about Parliamentary governments.
Or economics, or the legal system. But since when has that stopped him?
Hey, did y'all notice that Tony Blair quit?
We better get out of Britain!
GrayBeard Wrote:Hey, did y'all notice that Tony Blair quit?
We better get out of Britain!
That is the most random and logically flawed analogy I have EVER read on the Spin Room.
georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:GrayBeard Wrote:Hey, did y'all notice that Tony Blair quit?
We better get out of Britain!
That is the most random and logically flawed analogy I have EVER read on the Spin Room.
I'm pretty sure that he is quite proud of that!
Ninerfan1 Wrote:I45owl Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:It was announced that the largest Sunni Arab bloc just quit the Iraqi government.
You don't seem to understand much about Parliamentary governments.
Or economics, or the legal system. But since when has that stopped him?
I don't understand the bizarro world you inhabit, but I understand the real world very well.
georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:GrayBeard Wrote:Hey, did y'all notice that Tony Blair quit?
We better get out of Britain!
That is the most random and logically flawed analogy I have EVER read on the Spin Room.
Pfffft.
That was kind of my point.
the other Greg Childers Wrote:Ninerfan1 Wrote:I45owl Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:It was announced that the largest Sunni Arab bloc just quit the Iraqi government.
You don't seem to understand much about Parliamentary governments.
Or economics, or the legal system. But since when has that stopped him?
I don't understand the bizarro world you inhabit, but I understand the real world very well.
Ah the standard greg response, "I know you are but what am I?":wingedeagle:
Ninerfan1 Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:Ninerfan1 Wrote:I45owl Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:It was announced that the largest Sunni Arab bloc just quit the Iraqi government.
You don't seem to understand much about Parliamentary governments.
Or economics, or the legal system. But since when has that stopped him?
I don't understand the bizarro world you inhabit, but I understand the real world very well.
Ah the standard greg response, "I know you are but what am I?":wingedeagle:
Seems to be a recurring theme.
The recurring theme is that the conservatives have no response except to change the subject, muddle the issue, or blame Clinton.
the other Greg Childers Wrote:The recurring theme is that the conservatives have no response except to change the subject, muddle the issue, or blame Clinton.
Pot, meet kettle. Edit - Bush for Clinton.
the other Greg Childers Wrote:The recurring theme is that the conservatives have no response except to change the subject, muddle the issue, or blame Clinton.
You haven't even tried to stick to this subject, which is that a member of a ruling coalition in a parliamentary government quit the coalition (not, as you claim, the government). This is a regular occurrence in parliamentary systems, and is a legitimate democratic exercise in such a system. It remains an open question as to whether this will lead to the coalition ceding power (not necessarily a bad thing) much less a constitutional crisis or open civil war. This development is something to be concerned about, but it is simply foolish to use it as a basis to give up.
There is already a civil war/sectarian violence. This is just a symptom.
We cannot create a US military solution to a 1000 year old religious civil war.
the other Greg Childers Wrote:There is already a civil war/sectarian violence. This is just a symptom.
We cannot create a US military solution to a 1000 year old religious civil war.
Care to show me where the civil war is happening? I didn't see it. I saw Sunnis, Shi'ites, and Kurds working together. Is there sectarian violence? Well hell, is there racial violence here? Guess we should pull out of the United States as well, huh?
BTW, for other people lurking on this thread, keep in mind, Greg gets ALL of his information from leftist websites that hate Bush and a certain portion of the News Media that has a leftist agenda. When that is countered BY a leftist site, he, and people like them, claim they're "paid off". He's never served a day in the US Military and, chances are, probably has never left the states. I know damn well he's never been to a Combat Zone.
? You make the call.
Actually, this is kind of a good sign. The current coalition government is not working due to the Shiite positions/retributions and the like. The Sunni's want a government that works. This gives them the opportunity to clean up the Sunni side of Iraq and then try to get a workable coalition in place. Many are experts are thinking that the Kurds may well be the group that might be the sustainable center to a workable coalition government.
RebelKev Wrote:the other Greg Childers Wrote:There is already a civil war/sectarian violence. This is just a symptom.
We cannot create a US military solution to a 1000 year old religious civil war.
Care to show me where the civil war is happening? I didn't see it. I saw Sunnis, Shi'ites, and Kurds working together. Is there sectarian violence? Well hell, is there racial violence here? Guess we should pull out of the United States as well, huh?
BTW, for other people lurking on this thread, keep in mind, Greg gets ALL of his information from leftist websites that hate Bush and a certain portion of the News Media that has a leftist agenda. When that is countered BY a leftist site, he, and people like them, claim they're "paid off". He's never served a day in the US Military and, chances are, probably has never left the states. I know damn well he's never been to a Combat Zone. ? You make the call.
And you're the voice of authority?
Quote:An unclassified summary of the 90-page January 2007 National Intelligence Estimate, "Prospects for Iraq's Stability: A Challenging Road Ahead," states the following regarding the use of the term "Civil War":
The Intelligence Community judges that the term “civil war” does not adequately capture the complexity of the conflict in Iraq, which includes extensive Shia-on-Shia violence, al-Qa’ida and Sunni insurgent attacks on Coalition forces, and widespread criminally motivated violence. Nonetheless, the term “civil war” accurately describes key elements of the Iraqi conflict, including the hardening of ethno-sectarian identities, a sea change in the character of the violence, ethno-sectarian mobilization, and population displacements.
Quote:Retired US Army General Barry McCaffrey issued a report on March 26, 2007, after a trip and analysis of the situation in Iraq. The report labeled the current situation a "low-grade civil war."
From page 3 of the report:
"Iraq is ripped by a low-grade civil war which has worsened to catastrophic levels with as many as 3000 citizens murdered per month. The population is in despair. Life in many of the urban areas is now desperate. A handful of foreign fighter (500+)--and a couple thousand Al Qaeda operatives incite open factional struggle through suicide bombings which target Shia holy places and innocent civilians...The police force is feared as a Shia militia in uniform which is responsible for thousands of extra-judicial killings."