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Strippers Paid With Gov't. Credit
Wed Jul 17, 6:19 PM ET
By DAVID PACE, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Some 200 Army personnel used government charge cards to get $38,000 in cash that they spent on "lap dancing and other forms of entertainment" at strip clubs near military bases, Sen. Charles Grassley said Wednesday.

Citing a congressional investigation, Grassley, R-Iowa, said the soldiers used their military identification and government travel card to obtain cash from adult entertainment bars and then spent the money there.

The General Accounting Office, which conducted the investigation, said the clubs charged a 10 percent fee to supply the soldiers with cash, billing their travel cards for the full amount as a restaurant charge.

An Army spokesman said he did not know what, if any, disciplinary action had been taken against the 200 individuals.

But the GAO said it found "little evidence of documented disciplinary action against Army personnel who misused the card, or that Army travel program managers or supervisors were even aware that Army personnel were using their travel cards for personal use."

The GAO report is the latest volley in a two-year congressional probe of the Pentagon's credit card program. The program is huge. Last year, the 1.4 million defense employees used government travel cards for $2.1 billion in travel purchases; another 230,000 Defense Department workers used purchase cards for $6.1 billion in goods and services.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld created a special task force earlier this year to look into credit card abuses, and it made 25 recommendations last month to tighten controls over cards and to increase prosecutions of those who abuse or misuse them.

In its Army investigation, the GAO also found that government cards had been used for personal purchases of more than $100,000 for computers and other electronic equipment, $45,000 for cruises, and $7,373 for closing costs on a home.

Investigators also questioned purchases on government cards of fine china, cigars, wine, a trip to Las Vegas, Internet and casino gambling, and two pictures of Elvis Presley purchased at his Graceland mansion in Memphis.

Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., one of the House government reform leaders who requested the GAO investigation, said the findings point to an overall management failure at the Pentagon.

"Financial management at the Department of Defense is as bad or worse as at Enron, WorldCom or any other corporation that has misled the public," she said.

James T. Inman, the Army's acting deputy assistant secretary, said the service is "aggressively correcting" the problems uncovered by the GAO investigation.

In one instance, the GAO found government charge cards were used for a $30,000 purchase of 80 Palm Pilots at the Pentagon's top procurement office. An Internal e-mail said there was a need "to get enough goodies for everyone."

Grassley said the e-mail sends a message that "we can splurge at the taxpayers' expense and not worry about it. It's unfortunate that such an attitude is being nurtured in the purchase card 'czar's' front office. It sends the wrong message to the troops in the field."

The new GAO report is the first to focus on the Army, which has more than 430,000 travel cardholders and more than 100,000 purchase cards in use. The Army's charge bill last year totaled more than $3 billion.

Investigators audited purchase card transactions in five major Army commands, including detailed work at Fort Benning and Fort Gordon in Georgia, Fort Hood and the Army National Guard in Texas, and the Soldier, Biological and Chemical Command in Massachusetts.

The travel card audits were conducted at two separate commands at Fort Bragg in North Carolina plus Fort Drum in New York and the California National Guard.

The GAO said the Army has worked to maximize the use of purchase cards to save money by reducing procurement costs, but "has not focused equal attention on internal control."

Auditors said they found that 40 percent to 86 percent of the monthly purchase charge bills at the five bases had not been reviewed by managers to ensure charges were properly documented.

The GAO also found 1,200 Defense Department personnel had written bad checks to pay their government travel card bills. In examining the worst 105 cases, the GAO found 40 of those cardholders hold secret, top secret or higher security classifications. Bank of America, which runs the Army charge card program, had to write off nearly $150,000 in bad debts on those 40 accounts.

<small>[ July 18, 2002, 08:24 AM: Message edited by: NCTrafficMan ]</small>
*shaking head sadly* Oh lord...how did I know that they were talking about the Army when I saw this headline? This story does not give the whole picture, however. While the soldiers at Bragg were complete dumbazzez for getting cash from their travel cards there, the travel cards are supposed to be used for food/lodging/incidentals while you are on TDY (temporary duty). Each person on TDY gets a certain amount of per diem money (it depends on the city how much you get)...and that money is yours to spend however you see fit. Of course, if you incur more expenses than you do per diem money, the rest of the bill comes out of your own pocket. This wouldn't have even been an issue if the soldiers had done the smart thing and just gone to an ATM. The purchase cards, on the other hand, are a completely different matter. The purchase cards are actually backed by "government money" to buy things for government use. While I admit that there is a lot of abuse out there, it's not as bad as everybody is making it out to be. BTW...I used to be in purchasing when I was in the Air Force, so I do sort of know where I'm coming from here...just in case you were wondering. lol <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LilRedTerp:
the travel cards are supposed to be used for food/lodging/incidentals while you are on TDY (temporary duty). </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I guess the strippers fall under the government definition of "incidentals". I don't want to think of how someone might try to justify classifying them under "food" or "lodging"...
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

<small>[ July 18, 2002, 02:16 PM: Message edited by: Lucy ]</small>
wonderful!!! exactly how i want my tax money spent
Don't worry, it's not your tax money, it comes from their pockets.

What you should worry about is the secret service protection that Hillary gets while living in NY so that she can be a senator there. Why is the government paying for that?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BuddyLee:
What you should worry about is the secret service protection that Hillary gets while living in NY so that she can be a senator there. Why is the government paying for that?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Because it's a service that has been afforded to every first family after they leave the White House. Obviously hers is a unique case because usually the President and First lady vanish from public service after their tenure in the White House.
<a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/ustreas/usss/ops.htm" target="_blank">For you Buddy Lee</a>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
After the assassination of President William McKinley in 1901, the Secret Service was directed by Congress to protect the President of the United States. This remains the primary mission of the United States Secret Service.Today, special agents are authorized by law to protect:
the President, the Vice President, (or other individuals next in order of succession to the Office of the President), the President-elect and Vice President-elect;
the immediate families of the above individuals;
former Presidents, their spouses for their lifetimes, except when the spouse re-marries. In 1997, Congressional legislation became effective limiting Secret Service protection to former Presidents for a period of not more than ten years from the date the former President leaves office.
children of former presidents until age 16;
visiting heads of foreign states or governments and their spouses traveling with them, other distinguished foreign visitors to the United States, and official representatives of the United States performing special missions abroad;
major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates, and their spouses within 120 days of a general Presidential election.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hillary is receiving no special treatment.
Check out the movie Guarding Tess if you want to see a Hollywood version of that.

-JD
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Lucy:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LilRedTerp:
the travel cards are supposed to be used for food/lodging/incidentals while you are on TDY (temporary duty). </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I guess the strippers fall under the government definition of "incidentals". I don't want to think of how someone might try to justify classifying them under "food" or "lodging"...
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[laugh]" title="" src="graemlins/laughing.gif" /> Actually...what I forgot to mention is that this per diem that people get is for food/lodging/et al...however, if people say buy a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter and only eat that while they're away (yes...that's extreme...but I'm trying to prove a point. lol) they still get the exact same amount of per diem, and therefore have more money to spend on other things. The amount of per diem is actually based on Federal government estimates (I believe that you can go to <a href="http://www.gsa.gov" target="_blank">www.gsa.gov</a> to find a comprehensive list) of daily food costs in different areas of the country and is not only a Department of Defense thing, as civilians in different branches of the government get the same thing if they are on official travel. The bad thing (to me) isn't that these guys were using some of their money for strippers...it's the way that they did it (charging it as a restaurant charge is fraud). If they'd simply gone to an ATM, they would have been fine, as it was simply money coming out of their pocket. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />
Actually, she is. While still "living" at the white house, she also was "living" in new york, and the government covered both bills. We also paid for her protection all this time while finding a new house, and "living" there. That is what I'm talking about, and it was a waste of taxpayer money.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Liquid Karma:
<a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/ustreas/usss/ops.htm" target="_blank">For you Buddy Lee</a>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
After the assassination of President William McKinley in 1901, the Secret Service was directed by Congress to protect the President of the United States. This remains the primary mission of the United States Secret Service.Today, special agents are authorized by law to protect:
the President, the Vice President, (or other individuals next in order of succession to the Office of the President), the President-elect and Vice President-elect;
the immediate families of the above individuals;
former Presidents, their spouses for their lifetimes, except when the spouse re-marries. In 1997, Congressional legislation became effective limiting Secret Service protection to former Presidents for a period of not more than ten years from the date the former President leaves office.
children of former presidents until age 16;
visiting heads of foreign states or governments and their spouses traveling with them, other distinguished foreign visitors to the United States, and official representatives of the United States performing special missions abroad;
major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates, and their spouses within 120 days of a general Presidential election.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hillary is receiving no special treatment.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
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