05-27-2003, 04:52 AM
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05-27-2003, 06:54 AM
It depends what Sharon is willing to offer.
05-27-2003, 07:10 AM
He is willing to give back quite a bit. He does not have to give back anything if he does not want to. He has taken the step. Let see what Arafat's fellas do.
05-27-2003, 04:54 PM
rickheel Wrote:He is willing to give back quite a bit. He does not have to give back anything if he does not want to. He has taken the step. Let see what Arafat's fellas do.If it's really as good as everyone thinks (which I highly doubt) then it will be accepted. However, I seriously doubt it's as good as you think.
Rebel
05-27-2003, 05:05 PM
nate jonesacc Wrote:Barak offered him MORE than he asked for and he turned him down. Why? They don't WANT peace. They want the destruction of the Israeli State.rickheel Wrote:He is willing to give back quite a bit. He does not have to give back anything if he does not want to. He has taken the step. Let see what Arafat's fellas do.If it's really as good as everyone thinks (which I highly doubt) then it will be accepted. However, I seriously doubt it's as good as you think.
05-27-2003, 05:33 PM
RebelKev Wrote:LOL... yeah, they do. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:nate jonesacc Wrote:Barak offered him MORE than he asked for and he turned him down. Why? They don't WANT peace. They want the destruction of the Israeli State.rickheel Wrote:He is willing to give back quite a bit. He does not have to give back anything if he does not want to. He has taken the step. Let see what Arafat's fellas do.If it's really as good as everyone thinks (which I highly doubt) then it will be accepted. However, I seriously doubt it's as good as you think.
Rebel
05-27-2003, 05:55 PM
nate jonesacc Wrote:Using any logic you choose shows that the Palestinians don't want an Israeli state. This is also the reason why the other Arab states are financing them. The ALSO don't want an Israeli state in the Middle-East. Hmm, and who was there first? Wasn't Islam created in 610 A.D.? Ask yourself this, "Why is Jordan supporting the Palestinians now when they kicked them out of their country?"RebelKev Wrote:LOL... yeah, they do. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:nate jonesacc Wrote:Barak offered him MORE than he asked for and he turned him down. Why? They don't WANT peace. They want the destruction of the Israeli State.rickheel Wrote:He is willing to give back quite a bit. He does not have to give back anything if he does not want to. He has taken the step. Let see what Arafat's fellas do.If it's really as good as everyone thinks (which I highly doubt) then it will be accepted. However, I seriously doubt it's as good as you think.
05-27-2003, 06:03 PM
RebelKev Wrote:Palestine is not a Muslim territory. If you knew anything about the situation, you would know that Palestineans, or Philestines, whichever name you prefer, have been on that land for thousands of years.nate jonesacc Wrote:Using any logic you choose shows that the Palestinians don't want an Israeli state. This is also the reason why the other Arab states are financing them. The ALSO don't want an Israeli state in the Middle-East. Hmm, and who was there first? Wasn't Islam created in 610 A.D.? Ask yourself this, "Why is Jordan supporting the Palestinians now when they kicked them out of their country?"RebelKev Wrote:LOL... yeah, they do. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:nate jonesacc Wrote:Barak offered him MORE than he asked for and he turned him down. Why? They don't WANT peace. They want the destruction of the Israeli State.rickheel Wrote:He is willing to give back quite a bit. He does not have to give back anything if he does not want to. He has taken the step. Let see what Arafat's fellas do.If it's really as good as everyone thinks (which I highly doubt) then it will be accepted. However, I seriously doubt it's as good as you think.
To think that Palestine has always been a Muslim territory just proves further your ignorance.
05-27-2003, 06:12 PM
RebelKev Wrote:Exactly!!!!!nate jonesacc Wrote:Barak offered him MORE than he asked for and he turned him down. Why? They don't WANT peace. They want the destruction of the Israeli State.rickheel Wrote:He is willing to give back quite a bit. He does not have to give back anything if he does not want to. He has taken the step. Let see what Arafat's fellas do.If it's really as good as everyone thinks (which I highly doubt) then it will be accepted. However, I seriously doubt it's as good as you think.
05-27-2003, 06:16 PM
nate jonesacc Wrote:This conflict is fueled by the radical Muslim community.Their hatred towards Jews and their occupation of Israel will keep this conflict alive long after you and i are gone from this world little buddy.RebelKev Wrote:Palestine is not a Muslim territory. If you knew anything about the situation, you would know that Palestineans, or Philestines, whichever name you prefer, have been on that land for thousands of years.nate jonesacc Wrote:Using any logic you choose shows that the Palestinians don't want an Israeli state. This is also the reason why the other Arab states are financing them. The ALSO don't want an Israeli state in the Middle-East. Hmm, and who was there first? Wasn't Islam created in 610 A.D.? Ask yourself this, "Why is Jordan supporting the Palestinians now when they kicked them out of their country?"RebelKev Wrote:LOL... yeah, they do. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:nate jonesacc Wrote:Barak offered him MORE than he asked for and he turned him down. Why? They don't WANT peace. They want the destruction of the Israeli State.rickheel Wrote:He is willing to give back quite a bit. He does not have to give back anything if he does not want to. He has taken the step. Let see what Arafat's fellas do.If it's really as good as everyone thinks (which I highly doubt) then it will be accepted. However, I seriously doubt it's as good as you think.
To think that Palestine has always been a Muslim territory just proves further your ignorance.
05-27-2003, 08:11 PM
Nate Jonsacc.I'm still waiting for your response sir.All picking aside make your case and lets talk about it.
You are avoiding my side of this argument because you are to emotional about you're cause and that is not what i would expect from you.
You are avoiding my side of this argument because you are to emotional about you're cause and that is not what i would expect from you.
Rebel
05-27-2003, 09:36 PM
nate jonesacc Wrote:Palestine is not a Muslim territory. If you knew anything about the situation, you would know that Palestineans, or Philestines, whichever name you prefer, have been on that land for thousands of years.Damn, I know, I need to buy some Q-Tips. Thanks. I always thought they were screaming in the streets, "Allah Akbar", but I guess they were saying, "Jesus Loves Me". :rolleyes:
To think that Palestine has always been a Muslim territory just proves further your ignorance.
05-27-2003, 09:40 PM
Rebel... your ignorance grows even deeper. What is your point? Yes there are a lot of Muslim Palestinians. Palestine IS NOT an Islamic nationality, however. There are Christian, Buddhist and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, JEWISH Palestinians.
Rebel
05-27-2003, 09:56 PM
nate jonesacc Wrote:There are Christian, Buddhist and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, JEWISH Palestinians.One word....bull****. I have a question for you, since you think the Jews are the bad guys, who is it that walks into coffee shops loaded with explosives and detonates them? Oh right, we all know that would be the Jews.
...and by the way, I will invite you to rid the world of "people like me". I will give you my address or meet you. Matters not one bit to me. Your insipid rantings about how ignorant I am are becoming a bit annoying as I don't think you have the intelligence of a stack of roofing shingles. I will gladly match my B.S. in Biology, my 180+ College hours, my numerous Cisco Network, Bay Networks, Tadiran, Checkpoint Firewall, Microsoft, Nortel, Novell, Marconi, and Solaris Certifications, my 30 on the ACT, and my Private Pilot's license with you any day. Hell, I have a scanner, you wanna match'em up? Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're ignorant you stupid ****.
05-27-2003, 10:00 PM
RebelKev Wrote:Did I say that the Jews are the bad guys? HELL NO. Jews ARE NOT the enemy here. It is VERY important to realize that this IS NOT a Jew vs. Muslim conflict. This is an ISRAELI/PALESTINIAN conflict.nate jonesacc Wrote:There are Christian, Buddhist and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, JEWISH Palestinians.One word....bull****. I have a question for you, since you think the Jews are the bad guys, who is it that walks into coffee shops loaded with explosives and detonates them? Oh right, we all know that would be the Jews.
...and by the way, I will invite you to rid the world of "people like me". I will give you my address or meet you. Matters not one bit to me. Your insipid rantings about how ignorant I am are becoming a bit annoying as I don't think you have the intelligence of a stack of roofing shingles. I will gladly match my B.S. in Biology, my 180+ College hours, my numerous Cisco Network, Bay Networks, Tadiran, Checkpoint Firewall, Microsoft, Nortel, Novell, Marconi, and Solaris Certifications, my 30 on the ACT, and my Private Pilot's license with you any day. Hell, I have a scanner, you wanna match'em up? Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're ignorant you stupid ****.
Ya know what? Good for you. You ARE ignorant in this discussion. Don't take things so personally. I didn't say you are an ignorant person in general, you just have no f'ing clue on this topic.
05-27-2003, 10:00 PM
BTW, mind scanning a picture of yourself?
Rebel
05-27-2003, 10:01 PM
nate jonesacc Wrote:BTW, mind scanning a picture of yourself?I'm not gay.
Rebel
05-27-2003, 10:02 PM
....and I do have a clue on this topic as I have been researching this topic for years.
05-27-2003, 10:03 PM
RebelKev Wrote:Neither am I... just curious to match name w/ face.nate jonesacc Wrote:BTW, mind scanning a picture of yourself?I'm not gay.
05-27-2003, 10:04 PM
RebelKev Wrote:....and I do have a clue on this topic as I have been researching this topic for years.Have you been to the West Bank or the Gaza Strip?
Researching is never objective. Seeing things with your own two eyes is always objective.
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