06-02-2004, 08:21 PM
06-02-2004, 08:37 PM
9/11
Recovery of the .com bust (though he is clear to cut back his massive gov't spending policy now... time to cut some of that fat now that the economy is jump started)
Regime change in Afghanistan
If he successfully creates a self-supporting democracy in Iraq, he will have done one of the best things any President of the US has done. A democracy in the heart of the middle east would do wonders for that region.
Recovery of the .com bust (though he is clear to cut back his massive gov't spending policy now... time to cut some of that fat now that the economy is jump started)
Regime change in Afghanistan
If he successfully creates a self-supporting democracy in Iraq, he will have done one of the best things any President of the US has done. A democracy in the heart of the middle east would do wonders for that region.
06-02-2004, 08:59 PM
Regime change in Afghanistan..... we could have and should have done a much better job with Afghanistan. Tribal warlords now control that territory and opium is a SERIOUS problem. The problem is we lost sight of the ball and tore *** towards Iraq.
Recovery of the .com bust (though he is clear to cut back his massive gov't spending policy now... time to cut some of that fat now that the economy is jump started)
Recovery, My portfolio sure hasn't seen a recovery and the money this guy has wasted. Worse than a sailor on nickel night in a port of call.
Isn't Isreal a democracy in the Middle East.
Nice try Rove boy. NEXT
Recovery of the .com bust (though he is clear to cut back his massive gov't spending policy now... time to cut some of that fat now that the economy is jump started)
Recovery, My portfolio sure hasn't seen a recovery and the money this guy has wasted. Worse than a sailor on nickel night in a port of call.
Isn't Isreal a democracy in the Middle East.
Nice try Rove boy. NEXT
06-02-2004, 09:01 PM
You say 'opium is a serious problem' , it has been there for hundreds of years, you seem to suggest that it is now a serious problem that the Taliban went bye bye. Its no more a problem now than ever before in fact its the opposite.
:bang:
:bang:
06-02-2004, 09:04 PM
Guys the Taliban would beat the feet of opium farmers with rubber hoses to cripple them. Have ya heard of Religious fanatics who wouldn't even allow music. Jeezzzz It's hard guys... It's real hard sometimes.
Just the opposite.... Do you Rove worshippers really believe the stuff they feed ya!! Use your common sense. Religious fanatics would hunt down and kill the majority of the opium farmers.
Just the opposite.... Do you Rove worshippers really believe the stuff they feed ya!! Use your common sense. Religious fanatics would hunt down and kill the majority of the opium farmers.
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06-02-2004, 09:22 PM
Squandering the good will of the world and wasting the opportunity to unite this country in ways never before even thought of, all the while forcing a prior agenda down our throats under the guise of 9/11 wouldn't deserve an attaboy in my book. He bungled Afghanistan, as well.
06-02-2004, 09:40 PM
Dogger Wrote:Recovery, My portfolio sure hasn't seen a recovery and the money this guy has wasted. Worse than a sailor on nickel night in a port of call.Most people's haven't. That's the nature of getting your *** caught in a sinking ship.
Greenspan could share some words of advice on your portfolio being the measuring stick for our economy, btw.
06-02-2004, 11:03 PM
Guess you didn't diversify :laugh:
Im sure the Taliban went deep into the wilderness looking for the opium farmers :D
Its only a matter of time til Bin Laden joins Sadaam , if hes still alive that is!!!
Remember you can't stop the US military , you can't even hope to contain them.
Im sure the Taliban went deep into the wilderness looking for the opium farmers :D
Its only a matter of time til Bin Laden joins Sadaam , if hes still alive that is!!!
Remember you can't stop the US military , you can't even hope to contain them.
Guest
06-03-2004, 05:14 AM
SDSundevil Wrote:Remember you can't stop the US military , you can't even hope to contain them.You are 100% correct. However, they can be misled and ill-used.
06-03-2004, 05:35 AM
What a redneck thing to say. Has RebelKev slipped the government-issued mickey in your martini, too?
Yee-haw, good buddy! We got us the biggest dad-gum military in the history of space and the galaxy as we know it! I'll bet them sumbeetches won't never done come back over here again.
Dang! Korea! Vietnam! Laos! Cambodia! Nicaragua! Grenada! Panama! Iraq I! Kosovo! Iraq II! Dang! War IS peace! Ignorance IS strength! Happiness IS slavery!
Maybe we should just nuke the rest of the world. Or conquer it with our kick-arse military!
Yee-haw, good buddy! We got us the biggest dad-gum military in the history of space and the galaxy as we know it! I'll bet them sumbeetches won't never done come back over here again.
Dang! Korea! Vietnam! Laos! Cambodia! Nicaragua! Grenada! Panama! Iraq I! Kosovo! Iraq II! Dang! War IS peace! Ignorance IS strength! Happiness IS slavery!
Maybe we should just nuke the rest of the world. Or conquer it with our kick-arse military!
06-03-2004, 10:33 AM
Their SILENNCE SPEAKS VOLUMES!!!!!!!!!!!
One thing..... Can you believe it!!!!!!!! One thing that a majority of people think he did a good job with. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One thing..... Can you believe it!!!!!!!! One thing that a majority of people think he did a good job with. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
06-03-2004, 11:23 AM
I got one...He has driven the democrats mad, insane I tell you. The liberals are all foaming at the mouth like a bunch of rabid dogs!
He may have helped bring on the end of the Democratic party! :wave:
Way to go "W"! :bluethumb:
He may have helped bring on the end of the Democratic party! :wave:
Way to go "W"! :bluethumb:
06-03-2004, 11:51 AM
GrayBeard Wrote:I got one...He has driven the democrats mad, insane I tell you. The liberals are all foaming at the mouth like a bunch of rabid dogs!Ironically, libs don't look nearly as silly as the pubs did with their Clinton dick envy.
06-03-2004, 12:42 PM
Quote:Ironically, libs don't look nearly as silly as the pubs did with their Clinton dick envy.
I reckon that all depends on your POV and perhaps, your location. Here in the nation's capital, the dims are so lathered about Bush, they've lost their ability to operate motor vehicles. The protesters are the best, if you can get passed the pungent odor of patchoulli and butt, that is. Attempting to engage one in a debate is nothing short of hysterical. Not one is capable of anything approaching rational discourse. "Bush is worse than Hitler!!!" "He's a facist!!!" "We're losing our civil rights!!!!" Queue up Howard Dean's scream here: "Aiieeeerrgghhh!!!"
I know you dims are tired of hearing this from me, but it should be as obvious as that quivering lip on your face: Basing a national campaign on defeat in Iraq and a worsening economy is *not* going to work. (People can see what you are rooting for...) Basing a national campaign on calling your opponent stupid and a miserable failure is *not* going to work. (People want to hear what you are going to do differently...) Basing a national... oh the heck with it. If any of you morans had a brain you would have figured it out on your own by now.
06-03-2004, 12:43 PM
The funny thing, GB, is that Shrub has made lots of cons mad, too.
I mean, Clinton ran the country pretty well. II has just run the country into the ground. Small wonder we're all pissed.
I mean, Clinton ran the country pretty well. II has just run the country into the ground. Small wonder we're all pissed.
06-03-2004, 12:43 PM
Quote:I got one...He has driven the democrats mad, insane I tell you. The liberals are all foaming at the mouth like a bunch of rabid dogs!
Graybeard,
I got a good laugh out of that one, and boy are you correct.
06-03-2004, 12:44 PM
joebordenrebel Wrote:The funny thing, GB, is that Shrub has made lots of cons mad, too.Run the country in the ground? I think you are grasping....
I mean, Clinton ran the country pretty well. II has just run the country into the ground. Small wonder we're all pissed.
06-03-2004, 01:18 PM
Hey, with a horse that's garnering 41% support during wartime, I think it's time to take a look around, GB.
Published on Monday, April 19, 2004 by the Los Angeles Times
Bush Losing Ground in Rural America
Voters in struggling outlying areas tend to identify with his values, but economic concerns are alienating some lifelong Republicans.
by John M. Glionna
SHERMAN COUNTY, Ore. — Like much of rural America, this isolated community south of the Columbia River Gorge is a place where people — like their parents before them — vote Republican when they pick their presidents. They went with George W. Bush four years ago. And most are likely to support him again this year.
But cracks have surfaced in President Bush's once-solid rural constituency. From places like Sherman County to Montcalm County, Mich., and Mahoning County, Ohio, some Republicans are so concerned about crop prices and high unemployment that they're considering voting Democratic for the first time.
Bush has lost my vote, but I'm just not excited about Kerry either. From where I sit, neither party has much regard for the little man. And that includes farmers.
Farmer Tom Martin
They're hardworking people like Sherman County farmer Tom Martin. As he plows the stubble of last autumn's wheat harvest on his 12,000-acre spread, the 60-year-old hears mostly grim economic news on his radio.
"I'm right there on the fence," Martin said. "Bush has lost my vote, but I'm just not excited about [John F.] Kerry either. From where I sit, neither party has much regard for the little man. And that includes farmers."
For Bush, winning the rural vote looms more important than ever — especially in such swing states as Oregon, Minnesota, Michigan and Ohio.
In 2000, rural voters overwhelmingly backed him over Democrat Al Gore, giving Bush the boost he needed to win in some states.
Although analysts predict the president this year will again capture the majority of votes in outlying communities, they say he must win by a decisive margin to remain in the White House.
A recent Los Angeles Times poll showed that among rural voters, Bush leads Democrat John F. Kerry, 47% to 41%. But the president's support has slipped — down from 55% in November — for reasons ranging from the troubled economy to growing dissatisfaction over the war in Iraq.
Perhaps Bush's greatest strength with rural voters is an emotional bond based on cultural values. They view him as someone who thinks like they do — a president who speaks their mind on issues like property rights, abortion and gay marriage.
In a seeming attempt to capitalize on that relationship, Republicans last week opened a new front against Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee, highlighting Bush's more conservative views on cultural issues.
"Social issues are something that Republicans have used as wedge issues, especially among rural, Midwestern and Southern voters," said Rick Farmer, a political scientist at Akron University in Ohio.
"They'll look for inconsistencies on Kerry's stance on some of these controversial issues. And in close battleground states, especially those with large rural populations, it could make a difference."
<a href='http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0419-03.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0419-03.htm</a>
Published on Monday, April 19, 2004 by the Los Angeles Times
Bush Losing Ground in Rural America
Voters in struggling outlying areas tend to identify with his values, but economic concerns are alienating some lifelong Republicans.
by John M. Glionna
SHERMAN COUNTY, Ore. — Like much of rural America, this isolated community south of the Columbia River Gorge is a place where people — like their parents before them — vote Republican when they pick their presidents. They went with George W. Bush four years ago. And most are likely to support him again this year.
But cracks have surfaced in President Bush's once-solid rural constituency. From places like Sherman County to Montcalm County, Mich., and Mahoning County, Ohio, some Republicans are so concerned about crop prices and high unemployment that they're considering voting Democratic for the first time.
Bush has lost my vote, but I'm just not excited about Kerry either. From where I sit, neither party has much regard for the little man. And that includes farmers.
Farmer Tom Martin
They're hardworking people like Sherman County farmer Tom Martin. As he plows the stubble of last autumn's wheat harvest on his 12,000-acre spread, the 60-year-old hears mostly grim economic news on his radio.
"I'm right there on the fence," Martin said. "Bush has lost my vote, but I'm just not excited about [John F.] Kerry either. From where I sit, neither party has much regard for the little man. And that includes farmers."
For Bush, winning the rural vote looms more important than ever — especially in such swing states as Oregon, Minnesota, Michigan and Ohio.
In 2000, rural voters overwhelmingly backed him over Democrat Al Gore, giving Bush the boost he needed to win in some states.
Although analysts predict the president this year will again capture the majority of votes in outlying communities, they say he must win by a decisive margin to remain in the White House.
A recent Los Angeles Times poll showed that among rural voters, Bush leads Democrat John F. Kerry, 47% to 41%. But the president's support has slipped — down from 55% in November — for reasons ranging from the troubled economy to growing dissatisfaction over the war in Iraq.
Perhaps Bush's greatest strength with rural voters is an emotional bond based on cultural values. They view him as someone who thinks like they do — a president who speaks their mind on issues like property rights, abortion and gay marriage.
In a seeming attempt to capitalize on that relationship, Republicans last week opened a new front against Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee, highlighting Bush's more conservative views on cultural issues.
"Social issues are something that Republicans have used as wedge issues, especially among rural, Midwestern and Southern voters," said Rick Farmer, a political scientist at Akron University in Ohio.
"They'll look for inconsistencies on Kerry's stance on some of these controversial issues. And in close battleground states, especially those with large rural populations, it could make a difference."
<a href='http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0419-03.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0419-03.htm</a>
06-03-2004, 01:34 PM
Can anyone believe this? After 3 1/2 years there's not one thing they can say he did a good job at. Yet, they still defend him, plan to vote for him, and follow along like a bunch of sheep. Hey e-mail O'Reilly or bring it up to the ma-he ma-he Rushman if you guys can't think something. It would be interesting what the ole pill dropper would have to say.
06-03-2004, 01:48 PM
Dogger Wrote:Can anyone believe this? After 3 1/2 years there's not one thing they can say he did a good job at. Yet, they still defend him, plan to vote for him, and follow along like a bunch of sheep. Hey e-mail O'Reilly or bring it up to the ma-he ma-he Rushman if you guys can't think something. It would be interesting what the ole pill dropper would have to say.Honestly, what is the point? You have made it clear by your posts that nothing that "W" has done will be up the standards that you have placed on him. No republican could ever jump high enough to win your approval! So, in your own eyes you win.
Good job!