I came here for a while and hoped the mods would limit personal attacks and third grade antics. It never happened. Whenever the majority in here decides that actual discussion is what they want, I'll come back and represent the liberal point of view from a rational perspective. Until then, enjoy your mutual admiration society.
The reason why I went around to the different boards was to recruit new and fresh viewpoints for the spin room. I was looking to bring more to the spin room. Yes, currently the majority here are conservatives, but I was hoping to change that, and bring a little more diversity to the board.
You (MAKO) were so quick to jump on calling people names, that we don't care whether you post here or not. In fact, if that is all you want to add to the discussions, we would rather you didn't post here at all (see the AUP). You complain about stuff, yet you are part of that problem.
We welcome the new posters here, and we hope to have civil discussions now and in the future.
For the new posters, please make sure that you read the Spin Room specific AUP, and if you notice any violations, let a mod or admin know.
Thanks
Ditto !! :rolleyes: Too mean spirited for me !!
There are always those that respond to anything that contradicts their own opinions with "That is crap" without bothering to try to refute it (because they can't).
:rolleyes:
There are always those that respond with lines such as "don't bother, talking to a liberal is like banging your head against a wall".... usually when they have nothing specific to counter an argument with.
There are always those that respond "well, you are just spouting what you read in the liberal media" without specifically providing information to contradict the point you are making (because they can't).
There are always those that call someone they don't agree with (or don't want to believe) an "idiot" and then leave it at that, without bothering to try and refute what they don't want to believe.
It's part of posting about politics on a message board, and to be expected to a certain extent. But as long as it stays reasonably civil, I will post here from time to time. I've only been on this sub-forum for a couple days, so I haven't really seen any 3rd grade behavior yet. 4th grade, maybe, but no 3rd grade.
OH, and I particularly like being called a "newbie", LOL. If only I had the political knowledge and savvy of those who have been posting to this board for a while. Ah well.... maybe if I stay around long enough, the collective intellect will rub off.
I do believe you might/may substitute the "liberal" with Ditto Head or Pub or neo-con, etc. Welcome to our little slice of heaven.
I've looked at the AUP and I've wondered if it's ever applied to conservatives. For example, one poster has a pic at the end of his posts that equates the ACLU with th symbol of the Soviet Union. Now, that's not against the AUP but, apparently, if I put a swastika in the middle of, say, the Moral Majority symbol, I would be violating the AUP.
You went to a new board and immediately started calling the folks there "idiots." Another word you apparently like is "pansy" which you use to describe all liberals (although I challenge you to say that to Medal of Honor winner Daniel Inhouye (sp?)).
The bottom line is that most liberals on here felt that the AUP simply wasn't enforced against conservatives but was enforced liberally (if you will pardon the phrase) against liberals. Challenge. Find me a single thread that was locked without a conservative getting the last word in. One.
Mako, I have deleted more posts than you might imagine. Along with the deleted posts have been warnings. These have gone to both sides of the political aisle. I will tell you this, you point out problems to me, or any admin, and your complaint('s) will be given full consideration.
GTS asked for volunteers to mod. Basically anyone could have stepped up. The only "liberal" person I recall stepping up was SF. If you want to "fix" this board, step up a volunteer to mod. If you think someone is flamming you, don't whine about it and flame back, PM a mod or Admin. Do something. Don't sit around and whine.
MAKO, i find what you've said on this thread, to be highly offensive. whenever, i actually bothered to mod here, the majority of the posts i have deleted or altered were from conservative posters. I'm sorry, but it really seems like you're being a conspiracy theorist.
T-Monay820 Wrote:GTS asked for volunteers to mod. Basically anyone could have stepped up. The only "liberal" person I recall stepping up was SF. If you want to "fix" this board, step up a volunteer to mod. If you think someone is flamming you, don't whine about it and flame back, PM a mod or Admin. Do something. Don't sit around and whine.
Thats funny I don't remember Shade volunteering for the job, I believe he was just handed the title of "mod" to make the spin room appear to have a sense of balance to it, which it clearly does not. The only way I see the SPIN ROOM becoming fair and balanced is for the admins to not get involved in the policing and editing of posts, if someone warrants a ban, then by all means ban that poster, but let the MODS do their job. Obviously, im not implying that the admins slink off into the shadows and watch from the sidelines, stay involved in the discussion, just let the post editing and policy enforcing be done by the moderating team, thats what there here for right? Just an opinion. It might not be a bad idea to even out the moderating team also. 2 from the left and 2 from the right.
TJ, you want to put your money where your mouth is? I can make you a mod today!
TJRocket Wrote:T-Monay820 Wrote:GTS asked for volunteers to mod. Basically anyone could have stepped up. The only "liberal" person I recall stepping up was SF. If you want to "fix" this board, step up a volunteer to mod. If you think someone is flamming you, don't whine about it and flame back, PM a mod or Admin. Do something. Don't sit around and whine.
Thats funny I don't remember Shade volunteering for the job, I believe he was just handed the title of "mod" to make the spin room appear to have a sense of balance to it, which it clearly does not. The only way I see the SPIN ROOM becoming fair and balanced is for the admins to not get involved in the policing and editing of posts, if someone warrants a ban, then by all means ban that poster, but let the MODS do their job. Obviously, im not implying that the admins slink off into the shadows and watch from the sidelines, stay involved in the discussion, just let the post editing and policy enforcing be done by the moderating team, thats what there here for right? Just an opinion. It might not be a bad idea to even out the moderating team also. 2 from the left and 2 from the right.
TJ, I have already told you that no (NO) liberals have stepped forward and wanted to mod the board.
In fact, when I was asked to take over the moderation on this board, a condition of me taking it on was that we must have a left leaning mod as well, because I did not want to be in the position that we are in now.
I believe that I have been fair. I have edited and deleted as many threads from cons as I have from libs. I close topics when the thread crosses the line, so if I close it after a con posts, that means that the con crossed the line (I am not giving that person the last word, I am just closing the thread because it has spiralled into a pissing match).
If I am part of the problem, I will gladly step down!
MAKO Wrote:I've looked at the AUP and I've wondered if it's ever applied to conservatives.
Rebelkev got onto me about calling you "WAKO", so I stopped.
Hated to though, it made me laugh. :laugh:
GrayBeard Wrote:If I am part of the problem, I will gladly step down!
You are doin fine GB.
I volunteered SF for the job, and asked him afterwards. He said he would. ANY OF YOU could have stepped up. Schad and I have had MANY differences. BOTH of us have crossed the line. I viewed him as a person that would uphold the AUP. I, myself, have been asked to delete something by a Mod. That mod was none other than Graybeard....of which I abided quickly. I get out of line sometimes. Sometimes I realize it and change it, sometimes I am reminded by others. I do, however, try to remain civil.
You Libs had many chances.....you didn't step up. Being a "mod" means you actually have to listen to the other side no matter what your political persuasion may be, even though you may have to censor a fellow lib. Maybe that's why none of the people bitching stepped up to the plate. I have edited or deleted many conservative posts. I usually like to leave it up to the Mods.
MAKO Wrote:Whenever the majority in here decides that actual discussion is what they want, I'll come back and represent the liberal point of view from a rational perspective.
Nothing like a dose of Mako to rouse one from the gentle torpor associated with the absence of annoying pseudo-know-it-alls. Here's a couple of random thoughts:
1) Rationality requires much more than singleminded, rote, repetition of liberal talking points sprinkled "liberally" with pretensions of military grandeur;
2) I've had posts deleted and edited by mods and admins tagged as "neo-cons" by those who pitch fits at name-calling;
3) To the astonishment of absolutely no one, this forum has miraculously survived the juvenile, petulant withdrawals of Makos and GoofBalls, er, Oddballs, etc, etc. I'm curious as to how successful your collective philosophy of "It's my football and I won't let you play with it if you won't let me win" works for you in other phases of life;
4) Why does the old saying "good riddance to bad garbage" continue to echo; and
5) Now that you reminded us of how little you're missed, can you just go back now to just being gone?
sherman&grant Wrote:3) To the astonishment of absolutely no one, this forum has miraculously survived the juvenile, petulant withdrawals of Makos and GoofBalls, er, Oddballs, etc, etc. I'm curious as to how successful your collective philosophy of "It's my football and I won't let you play with it if you won't let me win" works for you in other phases of life;
This forum is a thriving metropolis. :rolleyes: Which is probably why Greybeard went on a recruiting mission to get more leftys posting here. Apparently they "trashed" an then "ran" off all the libs in here. If things are goin so well, why go on a recruiting mission?
Poor JBR, he would still be posting here if that philosophy of yours wasn't applied to him. Or, perhaps if he engaged in personal attacks against fellow posters, or made silly polls about what other poster's problems are he might still be around.
JBR didn't post personal attacks? If you think that, then you are OBVIOUSLY biased. I was on the receiving end daily.
He attacked your ideas an your way of thinking, not you personally. Big difference.